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Old 02-03-2012, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by need2speed94
Ahah, I know what ya mean... I'm hoping I will, if not then I will for sure post up the result. Maybe I'll even volunteer to have the passenger video taping it just to make things interesting since I have the torque advantage.
You should have the horsepower advantage too, unless the Beamer is also underrated?
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There are so many factors flowing through my head... My big disadvantage is that my shifts not matter how good I am at shifting will be slower, paddle shifters are just a damn good technology. His big disadvantage is that he has extra weight since its a vert and he's on all weather tires. The list goes on, hopefully the amount of skill I have is enough to pull the win!
Actually, most of them are crap! There are a few paddle shift setups that actually work well though but I doubt the M3's is one of those. Him being a vert means you will have a better chance at walking him if you can drive at all imo.

***Unless you're racing really soon, this should be in the dyno and bench racing section. Either way though, sounds like it will be fun so let us know what happens via video. Also, don't lower your psi in your rears. Where you will need help is on the top end, not on the bottom end, and spongy tires are going to slow you down where you need it most. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by 1992TsiAWD
So? Your low end torque means essentially nothing in this race.

What matters is high end torque curves and RPM, which are represented by horsepower.

Even if he makes less torque than you, if he can spin his engine faster (which he can), he can develop just as much power.
If he can get out in front (which he should with his low/mid range) I don't see the top end being enough to overtake on that car. You're just mad because yours didn't come with "torque" as a standard option lol, jk .
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He's going to walk you hard.

Those cars transmission alone is has more technology than your whole car.
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An E46 M3 vert is HEAVY.

If you don't win, it's your fault.
Old 02-03-2012, 10:57 AM
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No clue as to what some of these morons are talking about but an '05 M3 Vert is a mid-13 second car at ~104 in stock trim. My prediction is it will be close with the edge going to the 6spd LS1.
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Wow you sure showed all the morons lol. jk.
Old 02-03-2012, 11:04 AM
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Someone's gotta do it with all the B.S. that floats around this section nowadays..
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Originally Posted by need2speed94
This kid at my school just recently got a 2005 M3 Convertible and I've been wanting to run my 98 Z/28 M6 against him. Here's a rundown of the M3 specs.

His M3 is all stock... So this based on online specs:
HP: 333
TQ: 262
Weight: 3415... that's the coupe so I'm guessing his vert weighs ~3600 with him in it.
Tranny: 6 spd w/ paddle shifters

My car:

Untouched 60k mile LS1 from a 00' Z/28
6 speed
295/35/18 Nitto NT05's out back

He makes a bit more HP, but I have him in the torque department, plus my tires will aid in launching. Only thing I'm worried about is how much quicker/smoother his shifts are going to be since he has the paddle shifters.

My initial guess:
I will beat him off the line since I can get a good launch with the Nitto's and I have a fair amount of torque available at a lower RPM than him, but he will start gaining every time I shift since he has the paddle shifters. The top end is a toss up... I think it truly becomes a drivers race from there. I have to be quick with the shifts and hope that the LS1's torque will pull through.

What do you guys think the result will be? I really want to take down this spoiled bastard.
his weight should be 3781. take off the drag radials and run him. and are you only assuming he's a spoiled bastard due to his ownership of a beemer?
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
Someone's gotta do it with all the B.S. that floats around this section nowadays..
lol. Well glad you're up to the **** cutting challenge...
Old 02-03-2012, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 1ltcap
his weight should be 3781. take off the drag radials and run him. and are you only assuming he's a spoiled bastard due to his ownership of a beemer?
Why do you suggest he remove the drag radials?!? Run what you brung!
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
No clue as to what some of these morons are talking about but an '05 M3 Vert is a mid-13 second car at ~104 in stock trim. My prediction is it will be close with the edge going to the 6spd LS1.
how is this possible when the specs i can find show it taking 14.3 seconds to hit 100mph?
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
Why do you suggest he remove the drag radials?!? Run what you brung!
i'm suggesting that to make it a little more even. he's running a decent hp v8 against a decent hp v6.
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Originally Posted by 1ltcap
i'm suggesting that to make it a little more even. he's running a decent hp v8 against a decent hp v6.
It's an inline 6..
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Originally Posted by Killemall
Ive done this race many many times.

back about 8 years ago my 2.73 geared auto c5 in stock form would eat alive RSKYs 333 HP stock M3 from any roll speed.

At the strip mine did mid 13s and his low 14s. Its not even close and dont let anyone tell you otherwise.

Not only will you win but you will pull a Dewey *** on his *** and WALK HARD
Yea but no matter what car RSKY drives it will be in the low 14's.. He could be in a Bugatti and would still only go low 14's..
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Redfire will handle "cutting the ****" ty very much Oda, but no thanks lol.
Old 02-03-2012, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 1ltcap
i'm suggesting that to make it a little more even. he's running a decent hp v8 against a decent hp v6.
It's actually an Inline 6. And the beemer has got some advantages too, like paddle shifters. Run what you brung.
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Originally Posted by odarabla
it's an inline 6..
oops...my bad.

Unless the op sucks at shifting, the paddle shifter shouldn't offer that much of an advantage. it will offer some.......
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I say we stop commenting until a vid is posted up.. . Damn bench racing to hell. How many days do you have to post up a kill or loss before a mod breaks a foot off in your *** again lol?
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Right now I'm on my iPhone, so it would take dastardly long to reply to all those posts, so sorry in advance hah. The kid gave me a "maybe" when I asked him to run me in my Z. And I also got a pretty ignorant comment from his friend that is without a doubt uninformed about what LS1 F Bodies are capable of. His friend said that if I race him "my self confidence of my car will go down". Even if he does win, that kid is seriously in the dark about my car. Just another average Joe drooling over the car that costs more and liking it just because it's a BMW I'm still a kid, but under the circumstances... I feel like I should say this, Kids these days! He gives a bad name for my generation.
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Those inline 6 m3s are no joke.

You guys are talking about it as if it's a camry or corolla.... The thing has deathly high revs, has a badass transmission and is impressive for what it is.

I ran one when I was only bolt ons on my SS and it surprised/impressed the hell out of me.



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