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Old 02-29-2012, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
On the street from a roll the ls1 is going to have a much easier time (I trapped 108.59 bone stock) but from a dig my best ET stock was 13.19 which can be obtained by a Mach 1 with a skilled driver stock. If I'm not perfect the Mach 1 wins, that to me is a drivers race.
The Mustang at least has a "decent" rear end. Especially with sticky tires they can get out of the hole pretty good. I'm sure you know that strapping sticky tires on an M6 LS1 and launching at 5k would be like swinging at a baseball with a glass bat. If Fbods came stock with a rear strong enough to handle high rpm-sticky tire launches do you really think it would be as close? Why do you think stock for stock Fbods pull them from a roll...
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
And there lies the problem. Stoppy barely trapps 108 with mods. If a mach can not utilize the 1/2 gear for their momentum with a good tire....well then they are toast. Machs can do well at the track, but on the street they are not that strong.
"at the track"= from a dig. People do that on the street too.
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The Mustang at least has a "decent" rear end. Especially with sticky tires they can get out of the hole pretty good. I'm sure you know that strapping sticky tires on an M6 LS1 and launching at 5k would be like swinging at a baseball with a glass bat. If Fbods came stock with a rear strong enough to handle high rpm-sticky tire launches do you really think it would be as close? Why do you think stock for stock Fbods pull them from a roll...
But they didn't come stock with a strong rear-end. So...
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
But they didn't come stock with a strong rear-end. So...
Heh heh heh... I can't help it. That made me laugh!

"If a frog had wings, it wouldn't bump its butt with each jump..." but no wings, so...
Old 02-29-2012, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
"at the track"= from a dig. People do that on the street too.


But they didn't come stock with a strong rear-end. So...
In comparison to a 10 bolt.......
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
"at the track"= from a dig. People do that on the street too.


But they didn't come stock with a strong rear-end. So...
No ****. But the street is not a prepped racing surface and that makes it easier on the 10blt. Neither car can leave as hard.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
This. I'd be willing to bet that Mach was an automatic too.
Slow *** auto machs
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
No ****. But the street is not a prepped racing surface and that makes it easier on the 10blt. Neither car can leave as hard.
It's not like a Mach is pulling the wheels on the stock tires at the track.
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Slow *** auto machs
Gotta admit, without a stall and tune, they are WAY behind the manuals.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
It's not like a Mach is pulling the wheels on the stock tires at the track.

Gotta admit, without a stall and tune, they are WAY behind the manuals.
True...
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
"at the track"= from a dig. People do that on the street too.
But they didn't come stock with a strong rear-end. So...
Exactly.

Traction makes a big difference, my car has nothing on the street for traction there is very little chance of me out launching a Mach 1 unless the driver fails at life.

Though unlike some I don't have fuzzy memory of what stock performance was... I drove it stock for 5 years (100 or so passes) and I'm still on 245/50R16 all seasons, though slightly better than than the RSAs it came with.
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Stirring the pot....
2012 Charger 426 Redline, 590 n/a HP
To bad its ugly as sin tho lol







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Lets not also forget the 2013 Supercharged 392 with an 8-Speed that has been confirmed. Dodge is back in the game now lol
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Originally Posted by NiteRiderWS6
Lets not also forget the 2013 Supercharged 392 with an 8-Speed that has been confirmed. Dodge is back in the game now lol
I saw that Redline Charger at the Detroit Auto Show and
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
"at the track"= from a dig. People do that on the street too.


But they didn't come stock with a strong rear-end. So...
Use whatever crutch yall want to try and compare them to f-bodys. Im just saying I wouldn't throw a 9inch or a 12bolt in a stock f-body and go around picking on machs lol
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
Exactly.

Traction makes a big difference, my car has nothing on the street for traction there is very little chance of me out launching a Mach 1 unless the driver fails at life.

Though unlike some I don't have fuzzy memory of what stock performance was... I drove it stock for 5 years (100 or so passes) and I'm still on 245/50R16 all seasons, though slightly better than than the RSAs it came with.
You don't have to worry about out launching machs. All you have to do is stay within a car or so of them and then just drive by them. Alot of guys make that mistake.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
It's not like a Mach is pulling the wheels on the stock tires at the track.

Gotta admit, without a stall and tune, they are WAY behind the manuals.
They might be able to with that steep first gear. I saw what seemed to be a lightly modded 3v launching danm near off the limiter on a slick pull the left front and run a 13.1.......I lol'ed when I seen that.
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Originally Posted by 99peweterls1
Use whatever crutch yall want to try and compare them to f-bodys. Im just saying I wouldn't throw a 9inch or a 12bolt in a stock f-body and go around picking on machs lol
You're absolutely right, talking about how the cars left the factory is using a crutch. How silly of me.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
You're absolutely right, talking about how the cars left the factory is using a crutch. How silly of me.
Yes it is, cause I know I left countless time like stoppy on my 10 bolt at stock power level and the 10 bolt hung in there, my joke was a shot at people who think that it wont last past one launch at that power level such as yourself. And even if I was to break it within 5 passes. If I did counless rebuilds on the stock 10 bolt I'd still be leaving on machs as it came from factory. Soo your point is.....?
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Originally Posted by NiteRiderWS6
Lets not also forget the 2013 Supercharged 392 with an 8-Speed that has been confirmed. Dodge is back in the game now lol
Keep trying to talk my dad into selling his 5.7l 300c and picking up a new 392 one, Any idea if the 300s will get the supercharger option? That might be enough to get him to buy one lol, he keeps talking about putting one on his current set up.....

Originally Posted by HioSSilver
You don't have to worry about out launching "stock" mustangs. All you have to do is stay within a car or so of them and then just drive by them. Alot of guys make that mistake.
Fixed LOL


~Edit~ I also love the fact were making full circle with displacement again

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I destroyed one with a near stock LT1... I treat it like 1 pass is all it has left for good reason.
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More crying about me launching hard at the track? Sheesh.... That musta cut deep


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