Mike Morris

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Sure


Only fox I can remember in the Motorsport book back in 92 was Brian Wolf's and Don Walsh SR's(both ran all Ford parts for a while. Both didn't run 7s. First Mustang to run 7s was the convertable belonging to Racing Jason in 95(twin turbo). Before 94 the fastest was Stormin Norman who was the first in the 9s and and Gene Deputy in the 8s. None of them ran Motorsport axles.

I saw many break on stick shift cars running low 1.5s and lower. In fact back in 1994 John Hunkins with Excaliber broke his and he wrote an article in MMFF on why cars that fast or faster should run Mosers instead. I have to find it and scan it for you-I have it somewhere.

Reason I had the Motorsports(31 spline) was because I ran mine back in 1993 when I was n/a(heads,cam blah blah). When I got around to a blower in 2000 they broke on second pass with 26 by 10s. Got another set used and they broke after three passes with same combo. Changed to Mosers and they are still kicking with low 1.4 sixty foots and 138MPH traps up till now. Have girdle,welded tubes and trac loc carrier with extra clutches in my 8.8. Never understood why guys went with 9 inch rears in these cars-no need and you save some weight with the 8.8

1ltcap

i was pretty sure i had recalled seeing a high 7 second car in one of the motorsports catalogs. all of my stuff that old(if i didn't toss it years ago) is in the rafters of my garage, and god only knows how long it could/would take me to go through all of that crap to find it. i could be wrong. it's happened before.

i ran 9" rears in my 60's mustangs, and had a 9" in my 83 fox body(ford hadn't released the 8.8 at that point if i recall).

everything since that has been 8.8. they're crazy light compared to 9", stupidly easy to build, and crazy reliable. at least they have been for me.

part of why your second set may have broken was due to the fact they were used? i mean did you have any way to know how many runs were on them previously?

if i were going drag racing with serious power again, i'd keep with motorsports stuff.....but as i've mentioned before, i'm setting her up for road racing. i've got an itch to get her down to milleville, and drive her the was she was intended.

Stopsign32v

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I'd like a titanium spool and titanium axles with an aluminum housing with braces.

S8ER95Z

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I use unobtanium in all my ****... Ls1 is too strong for normal metals.

Mike Morris

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Yes I agree. The 8.8s can take a lot of abuse with simple mods and I can't see why running a 9 inch in cars around my power and a little beyond

The used axles I got was from a guy who moved up to a blower like me and went with Mosers. I don't recall how many passes were on them.

Stopsign32v

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Kevlar 4.30 rear gears

1ltcap

planning a trip to the core anytime soon/.?

It'llrun

Indeed.

As you know, the GTS really wasn't so special after all. Anyway, don't quote me or anything since it's been more than 10yrs, but as I recall, STRANGE was the brand... MIGHT be Superior, but I don't think so. Could've been Moser since we used those on countless cars, but I'm fairly certain this car, being a little special, got STRANGE!

I just brushed up on that, ya know.

The point I'm trying to get across to you is that a 300 lb difference is rarely even a slight factor in terms of breaking an axle. The TORQUE is... Even so, it ONLY matters depending upon how the torque/power is applied to each.

Prime example(which I've already mentioned) is WHEEL HOP... Not much weight involved, but it can and has caused axles to snap, even w/ relatively low torque and hp.

Here's 1 place to actually(after all these years) learn about the Ranger... I haven't logged in for so many years, if they still have me in the database, I can't remember the S/N... The link will show a detailed swap from stock to stock, 7.5/28 to 8.8/31, albeit even more long-winded than me.
http://www.therangerstation.com/Maga...th_the_new.htm

92cobranotch

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i agree wheel hop without a bout will trash ****. but thats more centrifugal force and energy in motion related.not so much torque applied. but yea deffinetly break **** up. first hint of wheel hop and shut the thing down and make adjustments. in my personal situation with 28s i should be ok because my car is *** light. i may have to add a little to the ***. but ill probly lose a little bite before it will break one. but if it makes closer to 470 im definetly pushing it.

It'llrun

If you're planning 400anything, you'll be better to just swap to a 31 spline... Aren't you using C-clip eliminators anyway? This stuff isn't so expensive, but it CAN save your life!

"The one thing" though is that if you go to the track with that much power and ANY kind of hook or un-noticed hop is going to snap a 28 spline axle, promptly getting you in trouble with "the powers that be" (track officials). It's just not save to use a 28 with that much power, not to mention it isn't worth the potential damage. If you do it though, I predict the right will pop 1st. I've had each snap.

HioSSilver

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I really don't get you guys jackin your dicks over these race cars.

1ltcap

and apparently you missed my response to him too.

Stopsign32v

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Better than crying like a girl over a close to stock Mustang.

Mach Boy

Or being a baby because we can actually leave hard on our launches.

1ltcap

i can understand the fear that some people have of launching hard. waayyy back in 1984, i broke the rear in my 83 5 liter. back then the rears weren't much more than the rears in the gm's. they were 7.5" weak crap. since traction was a problem in that car, i used to launch it around 3500, and even there, i had to pedal for traction. the first time i ran on drag slicks, i launched at about 5k, and BLAM!! parts laying on the starting line. that's when i put the 9" in that car.
the fear that some show of hard launches, is just from years of having to get used to not being able to launch properly, due to the fear of parts breakage on their daily drivers.
i don't fault them for this fear. it's about the same as guys with hondas that can run low 12's....but they don't, for fear of launching something out of the engine.

Mach Boy

And that's fine and all but Hio was complaining about us leaving at 4,000+ RPMs (he specifically said 6k). If he could do that reliably he would.

HioSSilver

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Yes I would......then you bitches would be crying about a solid 10 sec car that had a stock engine. Now lets see your n/a mach trapp over 125......let alone my best trapp of over 130.

1ltcap

no we wouldn't. we'd say nice run. at least i would.

HioSSilver

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****....it's a nice run just keepin the 10 bolt together at those speeds.

1ltcap

even launching soft, i'd say the same thing. win or lose is almost irrelevant.....the race is the fun part.