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Old 02-28-2012, 12:40 AM
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nobody around here with a heads cam ls1 will touch this car END OF STORY

this thread is getting out of hand its over and done next time i race him if i get the chance it will NOT be from a roll we dont do much of that around here and i will spray him
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Originally Posted by Imstock2
could post slips... I believe slips do a lot of talking them selves...
Thats true. People don't like doing that lol
Originally Posted by Killemall
So much hate here...

Maybe his cars pushin 500 right now?

Who knows..

Bottom line is he gave a very bad *** car a hell of a race. Can some of you race a modded zr1 and do that well?

Guy provided a vid...what more do you want from him. And yeas a 408 will dust a head and cammed fbody.
Ive raced head and cammed fbodies and dusted them in my old 440 rwhp and 500 rwt 99 viper very easily. On the other hand a barely built 408 ws6 pushin just 480 rwhp gave me some insanely close runs and considering he had a passenger was actually faster.
Yes I can race a modded zr1 and do well. Don't think your 99 viper would stand a chance against me and there has been many h/c ls1's that run harder then 408s. Its all about having the proper set up with a good driver.

Originally Posted by AWDTBSS
He gave our buddies 408 a good run that made 530whp from what i was told and ran almost the same times (lower MPH tho).

No ones hating on him/his car he got a better launch and that had a lot to do with it. Would be nice to see a roll between the ZR1 and 408 with the 408 tuned/spraying

Originally Posted by lemons12
You can't say, "A 408 will murder a h/c 346"... I can pull up hundreds of H/C 346s that would demolish tons of 408 cars.
And killemall, I know plenty of H/C cars that would turn that Viper inside out.

Don't be stupid people.
this man speaks the truth

Originally Posted by automach1
What does bayareass run at the track et/mph on motor?


Originally Posted by smok'nZ
nobody around here with a heads cam ls1 will touch this car END OF STORY

this thread is getting out of hand its over and done next time i race him if i get the chance it will NOT be from a roll we dont do much of that around here and i will spray him
that may be true because most cars aren't ran to their potential. That zr1 is a good example lol
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Originally Posted by BayAreaSS
Thats true. People don't like doing that lol
Yes I can race a modded zr1 and do well. Don't think your 99 viper would stand a chance against me and there has been many h/c ls1's that run harder then 408s. Its all about having the proper set up with a good driver.



this man speaks the truth





that may be true because most cars aren't ran to their potential. That zr1 is a good example lol
I would say 123
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Originally Posted by smok'nZ
nobody around here with a heads cam ls1 will touch this car END OF STORY

this thread is getting out of hand its over and done next time i race him if i get the chance it will NOT be from a roll we dont do much of that around here and i will spray him
Do you have a youtube account of your own??
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Originally Posted by automach1
I would say 123
Well thats wrong lol
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Bayarea

I have a srt viper now. Havent had that 99 in six years. Just tellen my experiences thats all...

My srt is 555 rwhp and 560 rwt at 3200 pounds. I have little doubt that I could match or beat a stock zr1.

But whatever his setup is or howver good or bad the zr1 driver was bottom line is he backed his **** up with a potato against a MODDED zr1.

Just given props were its due. If my cars faster than yours or yours than mine or even if that ugly lil black civic is faster than both of us means very little to me. Thats all heresay.

This zr1 race just happenned and potato shows the op wasnt full of **** afterall
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smokin'Z..i still say you did a hell of job...and you admitted that you lost and that he spun...the guy tell's the truth and still a **** storm brews...i agree with killemall (hard to believe , i know)...he said it best...you proved you're point...and as everyone here always says : run what you brung, the guy wanted a race and you gave it to him...props to you.
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something everyone seems to have overlooked is that its a stalled auto vs a 6 speed. i understand quite a few people can shift fast and blah blah, but ive watched this kind of race many times where the auto has less power but it still wins.
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
was the whole road that dirty and pothole filled? Damn man, all that road needed to be called a gravel road was a couple more pieces of gravel and a dead raccoon.

I've heard the ZR1's supercharger tends to heat soak easily, so maybe he heatsoaked it with his preruns? Something was up there, though a win is a win and if he heatsoaked it, if he couldn't launch as well as you, if his aircleaner was blocked by the carcass of a dead raccoon, etc. then he still lost by doing or not doing something you did do.

At the track IF he knows what he is doing, it will take a 150 shot for you to match his mph and probably ET. But this wasn't a track run was it? lol
Ive never seen a TVS 2300 get heat soaked...maybe a MP. Thats the reason for the new design...
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thanks guys

all the haters can keep swings on the ZR1's but he better do alot more than a pulley and C16 to keep up when im on the nitrous
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People are gonna nutswing till you race him at the track and beat him down the 1/4...then they are gonna nut swing and tell you to race from a roll hahaha
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
What's the 408 N/A F-body 1/4 record?
Slower than the NA 346 record IIRC.

I'm not sure why that is relevant however.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...-n-any-cu.html

Stock bottom 346 record is in the bottom 9s right now. PLENTY of stock bottom Ls1 cars in the 10s.. PLENTY of 408s in the 11. Just showing that it can and does happen on a regular basis.
Should a 408 be faster 95% of time? Absolutely... Is it? Not a chance.
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Originally Posted by lemons12
Slower than the NA 346 record IIRC.

I'm not sure why that is relevant however.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...-n-any-cu.html

Stock bottom 346 record is in the bottom 9s right now. PLENTY of stock bottom Ls1 cars in the 10s.. PLENTY of 408s in the 11. Just showing that it can and does happen on a regular basis.
Should a 408 be faster 95% of time? Absolutely... Is it? Not a chance.
Meh. 9x out of 10 a properly setup 408 will smash on a properly setup 346, with similar raceweight and all my $ would be on the stroker every time.

Now if were talking a well-built 346 vs shitty 408 then yeah I see your point.
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Originally Posted by lemons12
Slower than the NA 346 record IIRC.

I'm not sure why that is relevant however.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...-n-any-cu.html

Stock bottom 346 record is in the bottom 9s right now. PLENTY of stock bottom Ls1 cars in the 10s.. PLENTY of 408s in the 11. Just showing that it can and does happen on a regular basis.
Should a 408 be faster 95% of time? Absolutely... Is it? Not a chance.
Fastest stock bottom 346 was 9.66? You mean stock cubed not stock bottom in the 9s correct?

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Originally Posted by BayAreaSS
Well thats wrong lol
I don't think its far off.
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Originally Posted by automach1
I don't think its far off.
Why post in these kinds of threads when you have zero knowledge of LSx vehicles? Stick to MACH 1's.


On another note, I have never had a stock bottom LS1 get out in front of me unless he was spraying or had boost. Just my experience.
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Originally Posted by m_liel
Why post in these kinds of threads when you have zero knowledge of LSx vehicles? Stick to MACH 1's.
Lol yea you are right I have no lsx knowledge It was a guess I know the car has been high 10s on motor.
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
Meh. 9x out of 10 a properly setup 408 will smash on a properly setup 346, with similar raceweight and all my $ would be on the stroker every time.

Now if were talking a well-built 346 vs shitty 408 then yeah I see your point.
Without a doubt, but that wasn't my point.

The second part was my point.

Originally Posted by automach1
Fastest stock bottom 346 was 9.66? You mean stock cubed not stock bottom in the 9s correct?
Fastest 346 has went 9.2 last time I checked, very high mph... Don't remember everything done to the setup.... bone stock block 347 has been mid 9s IIRC at a much lower MPH.
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lemmons some friends of mine are gonna be doing some out of state racing this year grudge stuff if we make it near Winchester ill run you and prove mine is no slouch
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Originally Posted by lemons12
Without a doubt, but that wasn't my point.

The second part was my point.



Fastest 346 has went 9.2 last time I checked, very high mph... Don't remember everything done to the setup.... bone stock block 347 has been mid 9s IIRC at a much lower MPH.
Yea h/c/i record is 9.66 that is the fastest stock bottom end that I know of.


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