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Old 03-02-2012, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by audacious nick
Are you kidding? 700rwhp is enough to kill most liter bikes, and a hayabusa.
Stupidity surfaces right here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9rza...layer_embedded
Don't believe me? That's 764rwhp right there.
What did it run dipshit? A 700rwhp 4000lb gto isnt going to beat a 140+mph bike from a dig or low roll on the street. Keep dreaming. Its been proven time and time again. So go pick another youtube video off the internet and post it like it means something or I even give a ****.

Im sure if I dug enough I could find a 94 honda accord with an intake beating a busa too but thats doesnt mean it should have.
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looks like it ran a 9.xx something...

but like you said, this is about the street, not a prepd track with ideal conditions and slicks and all.. anything over 500whp hell even 400whp is gonna have a harder time hooking up then a ****** bike will. from a 70mph+ roll though, game over for the bike id say.

BUT, like you said.. finding a video and posting it like it proves something is gay. audacious nick, your dumb. ill go find a 400hp busa and put it against this GTO and then say HEY NO BIKE CAN LOSE TO ANY CAR NOW.



but then youd probably take a video of a funny car and say hey, thats 8000 hp right there! dont believe me?! watch it beat any bike in the universe while blowing out your eardrums!
Old 03-02-2012, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
What did it run dipshit? A 700rwhp 4000lb gto isnt going to beat a 140+mph bike from a dig or low roll on the street. Keep dreaming. Its been proven time and time again. So go pick another youtube video off the internet and post it like it means something or I even give a ****.

Im sure if I dug enough I could find a 94 honda accord with an intake beating a busa too but thats doesnt mean it should have.
Don't know about 700rwhp,But the car above i believe will beat a busa on the street from a high roll...
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Originally Posted by bh353
Don't know about 700rwhp,But the car above i believe will beat a busa on the street from a high roll...
Here is my original quote
"If your making 700rwhp its believeable to have that outcome with a 600 from a 65 roll. Any lower and hed have put a couple cars on you for sure."


No where did i ever even mention a liter bike in the first place. A new 600 traps low 130s with a good rider. And no where did i mention racing from a high roll against a liter bike.

I also think that GTO would give a busa a decent run from a high roll but i still see the busa getting a out a car or two and then getting run down around 150mph.
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
Here is my original quote
"If your making 700rwhp its believeable to have that outcome with a 600 from a 65 roll. Any lower and hed have put a couple cars on you for sure."


No where did i ever even mention a liter bike in the first place. A new 600 traps low 130s with a good rider. And no where did i mention racing from a high roll against a liter bike.

I also think that GTO would give a busa a decent run from a high roll but i still see the busa getting a out a car or two and then getting run down around 150mph.
I 100% agree with you..thats why i said a high roll. On a well preped track i could see the gto easily pulling a busa.My gto is at 453rwhp and it gets kinda scary on the street.I couldn't imagine 800rwhp how would be..lol
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Originally Posted by bh353
I 100% agree with you..thats why i said a high roll. On a well preped track i could see the gto easily pulling a busa.My gto is at 453rwhp and it gets kinda scary on the street.I couldn't imagine 800rwhp how would be..lol
But in the case provided, I don't think so. 65mph is right in the meat of first gear on a Hayabusa. It would get real ugly before it looked good at all.
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Originally Posted by audacious nick
Are you kidding? 700rwhp is enough to kill most liter bikes, and a hayabusa.
Stupidity surfaces right here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9rza...layer_embedded
Don't believe me? That's 764rwhp right there.
Isn't this the street racing section??? Why would you post a dumb video about racing a 700hp car vs a busa at the drag strip. The op was talking about roll racing anyways. Its gonna take all that 700 hp to mess with a liter bike or a busa from a roll. Guaranteed
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
What did it run dipshit? A 700rwhp 4000lb gto isnt going to beat a 140+mph bike from a dig or low roll on the street. Keep dreaming. Its been proven time and time again. So go pick another youtube video off the internet and post it like it means something or I even give a ****.

Im sure if I dug enough I could find a 94 honda accord with an intake beating a busa too but thats doesnt mean it should have.
It runs in the 9s.
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If the car has those mods it should beat a 600. However, with a good rider, 700hp doesnt guarantee taking out 1000s and Busas. For example, try a lightly modded BMW S1000RR, youre talking 200+ hp pretty easily, and with a skilled 160lb rider, it would give 900+ hp cars a good run. The newer 1000s are beasts, and if they have a good rider on them, youll need more than 700hp to get around them below 150.
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Originally Posted by jbhotrod
If the car has those mods it should beat a 600. However, with a good rider, 700hp doesnt guarantee taking out 1000s and Busas. For example, try a lightly modded BMW S1000RR, youre talking 200+ hp pretty easily, and with a skilled 160lb rider, it would give 900+ hp cars a good run. The newer 1000s are beasts, and if they have a good rider on them, youll need more than 700hp to get around them below 150.
^^^^this. The only thing I'll say is 150-186 on the busa doesn't take much time. That 700 hp car isnt gonna come around it.

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OP, unless I missed it, you never actually mentioned if you sprayed the 600 and, if so, how big of a shot? How much does your car weigh?

And for everyone, there are WAY too many variables with cars and bikes to simply say "XXX horsepower is enough/not enough to take down a liter bike". Even taking the rider out of the equation (both size and skill), there is a huge discrepancy between various bike makes, models, and years. In the past 10 years, there are liter bikes that will struggle to hit high 130's without a strong rider and there are liter bikes that trap 150 stock. And this says nothing of the HUGE variables of the car it's racing, the speeds you start AND stop at (which is important), the gearing, etc.

The most important thing I'll note when running a bike - aside from the fact that rider skill can be the difference between murdering and getting murdered - is that a skilled rider from the meat of first gear will crank out SIGNIFICANTLY harder through the first couple gears than their trap speed implies. By the time a bike is hitting the 1/4 traps, it's pull is slowing significantly compared to how hard it was pulling around the 330' to past the 1/8.

And as a general statement, no, just because "this guy" you know has been attending track days on a regular basis for the past 15 years or your friend is a stunter and can wheelie for five miles at once down the road doesn't necessarily mean he's doing the bike justice in a straight line. Let's just put that one to bed right now.
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The title of the thread is newer bike. The liter bike and busa I'm bringing up is around the 07-newer bikes. All in the 9's at over 135 with the right rider. sorry i didn't mention the years. Your gonna have to have a very nasty car to mess with one of those bikes.
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Originally Posted by 03turbomach1
The title of the thread is newer bike. The liter bike and busa I'm bringing up is around the 07-newer bikes. All in the 9's at over 135 with the right rider. sorry i didn't mention the years. Your gonna have to have a very nasty car to mess with one of those bikes.
9s @ 135 with a busa or liter bike?? My 08 Fz1 touring bike runs low 10's at 135 with nothing but a sprocket and filter. But I am the fastest 2nd gen FZ1 on the forum 1/4. Anyways if you have a SS liter bike or busa and not in the 9s @ 140+ then you need to practice alottt more.
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I can't wait to run some bikes
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Originally Posted by automach1
I can't wait to run some bikes
What are you gonna be lookin at for power and weight in the car?
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Originally Posted by PewterScreaminMach
What are you gonna be lookin at for power and weight in the car?
not enought with a n/a 4.6 to get a newer 1000cc + sport bike
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Originally Posted by bjamick
9s @ 135 with a busa or liter bike?? My 08 Fz1 touring bike runs low 10's at 135 with nothing but a sprocket and filter. But I am the fastest 2nd gen FZ1 on the forum 1/4. Anyways if you have a SS liter bike or busa and not in the 9s @ 140+ then you need to practice alottt more.
I know, i was being optimistic. I had a 07 gsxr 1000, best time was a 10.2@141. Sold it a week ago
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Originally Posted by 03turbomach1
I know, i was being optimistic. I had a 07 gsxr 1000, best time was a 10.2@141. Sold it a week ago
Booooo. Buy another one.

Out of curiosity, what were you trapping in the 1/8?
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I think it was around 112-114, have to grab the slips.
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Originally Posted by automach1
I can't wait to run some bikes
We have plenty.


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