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Old 03-28-2012, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
i have no chance against corvette engines ..****.
Well if its the LS9 one, you're right.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
i have no chance against corvette engines ..****.
As soon as I pop the hood people just forfeit. Saves me from losing...

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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
i have no chance against corvette engines ..****.
That's right
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Originally Posted by 99peweterls1
It's a corvette motor man, nough said..... LMAO
Lol, exactly. Now you guys are getting it.
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Originally Posted by TorqueMachineWS6
I don't understand, so every video you guys see of a F-body beating the 2011 5.0, you will claim it has mods? My daily driver is a 2010 mustang GT, granite it's not the 5.0, but its close enough in the blood line. Its a fast car non-the-less, but every time I take my T/A out for a drive on the weekends; it has more grunt, much quicker on the get go, and feels overall like a better performance machine. The GT, is a great daily driver, more comfortable, and doesn't feel like you are hanging out with an axe murder. My dad and I raced both of them when we just had the GT, from a dig or 15 mph roll, my T/A would pull at least 3-4 car lengths up to 100 mph. I have been to Infineon Raceway once and ran a 13.03 @ 108 mph in my T/A with a crappy 0-60 est. Im pretty sure with a better driver mod and better tires the car could dip into the high 12s. My T/A has less than 30k miles on it. Runs like brand new unlike many other F-bodys. Not to mention mines is bone stock down to the tires.

The new 5.0's are fast, dyno more hp, but that doesn't mean anything. You guys are forgetting you have an LS series motor, a corvette motor. You're comparing a 10+ year old car to a brand new car. The 5.0's can run high 12s, but you know what, on average, they are low to mid 13s. I found you guys two videos of f-bodys handing the 5.0 its ***. On top of that, most of you psychos have the average bolt-ons to you f-bodys, you will eat one. A bolt on f-body will beat a bolt-on 5.0 for many reasons.

In the end, it doesn't matter, I'm just happy to see our American manufacturers competing head to head again, as well as trying to dominate the auto market again. Your lucky its not a Datsun, making that much power and kicking our ***.


actually in the video with the good music...the one with the fat dude driving the kona blue gt......looked like he may have been out front in the second run.

didn't matter though......was excellent music.
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Originally Posted by MTN_Z
My young friend, the reason 99% of these guys are telling you the 5.0 is faster isn't because they do not like the fourth gen F-body. They all love or respect them and may have owned or currently own them. They are telling you they are faster because they are. That's the bottom line. I've owned my car since you were most likely in grade school and it doesn't bother me in the slightest that the new GT is faster than my car. It's a bad *** ****! Remember, anything can happen on the street.
i like your attitude.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Did you really just say the 2010 GT and 2011 GT are close? Hmmm 315hp vs 412, one is capable of running low 12 with right driver stock and one does lucky to beat a 2011 V6.
i've got a friend.....2012 ragtop. just ran a 13.9@101 with his v6. i honestly didn't think the ragtops could break into the 13's........
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
As soon as I pop the hood people just forfeit. Saves me from losing...

See I would just turn my Car off and say you win......
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Dont lie, you know it died, let me get my jumper cables...
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The 5.0 and ls1 is a good race.. But I have a 99 Trans am with LT,ORY and magnalfow cat back and I also have a ls6 intake with a slp lid without a tune. Do you guys have any idea what I would be putting down as numbers on a dyno or what I would run at the track?
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Originally Posted by Azar_Hawke
Yeah, I'd say it's the first stock na motor that Ford put out for a Mustang that could beat an f-body. Only took them 10 years.
Man I wish you wern't all the way in Raleigh LOL
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For the last time, a 2011+ GT vs LS1 F-body is not a close race. With all things equal. the 5.0 will walk easily.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Man I wish you wern't all the way in Raleigh LOL

Meet in Fayetteville; they run test and tunes on Sunday at the track there.
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Originally Posted by TorqueMachineWS6
I don't understand, so every video you guys see of a F-body beating the 2011 5.0, you will claim it has mods? My daily driver is a 2010 mustang GT, granite it's not the 5.0, but its close enough in the blood line. Its a fast car non-the-less, but every time I take my T/A out for a drive on the weekends; it has more grunt, much quicker on the get go, and feels overall like a better performance machine. The GT, is a great daily driver, more comfortable, and doesn't feel like you are hanging out with an axe murder. My dad and I raced both of them when we just had the GT, from a dig or 15 mph roll, my T/A would pull at least 3-4 car lengths up to 100 mph. I have been to Infineon Raceway once and ran a 13.03 @ 108 mph in my T/A with a crappy 0-60 est. Im pretty sure with a better driver mod and better tires the car could dip into the high 12s. My T/A has less than 30k miles on it. Runs like brand new unlike many other F-bodys. Not to mention mines is bone stock down to the tires.

The new 5.0's are fast, dyno more hp, but that doesn't mean anything. You guys are forgetting you have an LS series motor, a corvette motor. You're comparing a 10+ year old car to a brand new car. The 5.0's can run high 12s, but you know what, on average, they are low to mid 13s. I found you guys two videos of f-bodys handing the 5.0 its ***. On top of that, most of you psychos have the average bolt-ons to you f-bodys, you will eat one. A bolt on f-body will beat a bolt-on 5.0 for many reasons.

In the end, it doesn't matter, I'm just happy to see our American manufacturers competing head to head again, as well as trying to dominate the auto market again. Your lucky its not a Datsun, making that much power and kicking our ***.
Well h-o-l-y ****!!! You learn something new everyday

Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
I would consider gt badges on a 5.0, you would get a ton of races and confuse the hell out of people when you tell them your stock.
"You're" damn it . Agreed, and it wouldn't be a lie

Originally Posted by 99peweterls1
It's a corvette motor man, nough said..... LMAO
Lol, yes indeed lol.
Originally Posted by ohioborn80
i have no chance against corvette engines ..****.
Nope , not only that but you're car needs a driver mod... lol jk.

Originally Posted by TorqueMachineWS6
Lol, exactly. Now you guys are getting it.
Finally! You'll catch up soon too I bet...
Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Man I wish you wern't all the way in Raleigh LOL
No you don't, that particular member happens to have the Corvette motor in his car, idiot.

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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
I call shenanigans on those high rwhp numbers (many of which were found to be dyno'd in a gear other than 1:1)... when a boss puts down less and is rated higher I just have a hard time believing it. Not to mention the 1/4 mile times don't match up with that kind of rwhp and the curb weight.

If not mistaken 370-380ish is what a new 5.0 puts down in stock form when dyno'd in 5th (1:1)... you can easily inflate the numbers by using 4th though.

Livernoise Motorsports claims they put down 375rwhp then 391rwhp after 2000 miles were put on their test car. So who knows... maybe 400rwhp is possible and I'm just jealous.
a happy dyno AND a 3.31 rear will inflate the numbers to 390rwhp with some miles on it. 365-375 is normal.
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
For the last time, a 2011+ GT vs LS1 F-body is not a close race. With all things equal. the 5.0 will walk easily.
This.. I'm worried about stock 5.0s for crying out loud.
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
This.. I'm worried about stock 5.0s for crying out loud.
Me too. My car runs alright for a bolt on car, but I would suspect a good driver in a stock 5.0 would pull as the speeds increased. A guy tried to get me to run him in his stock 5.0 one night about a year ago, but I declined. My stupid clutch hydraulics are having issues with the pedal sticking to the floor, so I didn't want to waste his time as it won't go into gear at high rpm. Would've been fun though.
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Originally Posted by MTN_Z
Me too. My car runs alright for a bolt on car, but I would suspect a good driver in a stock 5.0 would pull as the speeds increased. A guy tried to get me to run him in his stock 5.0 one night about a year ago, but I declined. My stupid clutch hydraulics are having issues with the pedal sticking to the floor, so I didn't want to waste his time as it won't go into gear at high rpm. Would've been fun though.
Don't even get me started on these hydraulics... 6500rpm and I have to let out... 1 to 2 seems to work everytime but hitting 3rd or above is a crap shoot.
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Mtn Z......it's not your hydraulics. It's the ******* weak *** pp. if it were your hydraulics it would do it at idle also.
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
This.. I'm worried about stock 5.0s for crying out loud.
You should be worried with the setup you're running. What possessed you to throw an LS6 cam in there? Obviously, you weren't looking to win any races.


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