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Old 04-06-2012, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown383LS1
I rechecked it, it says the same thing.

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Old 04-06-2012, 01:22 PM
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Seems like only the key board warriors don't put where they live at in the location box.
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know what's REALLY funny about this? if he had lost to another chevy, or a pontiac, no one would be criticizing him at all.


just keep racing, keep having fun. try to be some semblance of safe. screw what anyone thinks of your car. YOU like it.....that's what matters.
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At the rate this guy is goin he would lose to a solid bolt-on car. A cam only car would wax his ***. Remember this badass 5.0 was on nos to run his 11.6.....so off the **** 12.2 or so would be at the awesome end for a h/c/I for one of those
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If the fox has to spray to run an 11.6, I agree that the op should have taken the win given the mods. But who knows what he has done to the Mustang since the last race between them?
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A gutted out fox coupe suspension, hci can run mid 11's but i don't care what combo he has its not gonna trap 118 on motor. For that coupe to trap that on motor I would say its a 347 at least. When you pop the hood you can't tell the difference between A 302 and a 347 if you don't know what to look for. I would have to agree OP'S car should have had him covered on the top end. But nice death a least you are man enough to post your car even though you lost.
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Originally Posted by kennyxg
When you pop the hood you can't tell the difference between A 302 and a 347 if you don't know what to look for.
I would like to know what to look for to tell the difference between the two without measuring the stroke.
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Originally Posted by Blown383LS1
I would like to know what to look for to tell the difference between the two without measuring the stroke.


LoL, maybe big heads
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Originally Posted by Heater
LoL, maybe big heads
That is the problem with most Ford guys. 165's for 302, 185's for 347, and 205+ are for a 408. They put small heads on along with a b cam and are disappointed in performance. They don't want to give up 10ft lbs at 3k rpm, lol. Years ago I put a set of Victor Jr's on a 302 and my friends called me crazy until we raced. Big heads along with a properly matched cam and a 302 can fly. It gets even better with a stroker.
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Originally Posted by Blown383LS1
That is the problem with most Ford guys. 165's for 302, 185's for 347, and 205+ are for a 408. They put small heads on along with a b cam and are disappointed in performance. They don't want to give up 10ft lbs at 3k rpm, lol. Years ago I put a set of Victor Jr's on a 302 and my friends called me crazy until we raced. Big heads along with a properly matched cam and a 302 can fly. It gets even better with a stroker.

LMAO, didn't think anybody on here would know what I was talking about.




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Originally Posted by Heater
LMAO, didn't think anybody on here would know what I was talking about.




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Been building Mustangs a long time. I am working on finishing my 94 GT build now. And yea, it has big heads, lol.
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Originally Posted by Blown383LS1
That is the problem with most Ford guys. 165's for 302, 185's for 347, and 205+ are for a 408. They put small heads on along with a b cam and are disappointed in performance. They don't want to give up 10ft lbs at 3k rpm, lol. Years ago I put a set of Victor Jr's on a 302 and my friends called me crazy until we raced. Big heads along with a properly matched cam and a 302 can fly. It gets even better with a stroker.
**** tfs 205's in my op should be the only heads on a n/a stock shortblock 302. That with a cam that can spin to 7000 with a big intake can send a stock bottom end 302 into the low 11's or 10s if your not afraid of the rpms. But you are correct, everyo fox owner is worried about their towing capacity below 3000 rpms. Because thats where most racing takes place.
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You can tell by the harmonic balancer and most people use the larger diameter headers. Everything else looks the same, a stroker will have a way deeper exhaust note than a 302.
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You can tell looking at the block too
Running high reving or power adder with a stock block is not a good idea...
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OP good deaths to the 5.0. Anything can happen on the street. Your car sounds pretty damn good. You have plenty of options in Nor Cal tunerwise to figure out if there are any issues.

On a side note, you seem to get very defensive in a lot of your posts, a lot of times people on the internet get off on pushing the buttons of others. Don't let them get you all stirred up. lol.
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Not worried , Thanks
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
You can tell looking at the block too
Running high reving or power adder with a stock block is not a good idea...
how do you tell looking at the block? this should be good...
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Originally Posted by flattusmaximus78
**** tfs 205's in my op should be the only heads on a n/a stock shortblock 302. That with a cam that can spin to 7000 with a big intake can send a stock bottom end 302 into the low 11's or 10s if your not afraid of the rpms. But you are correct, everyo fox owner is worried about their towing capacity below 3000 rpms. Because thats where most racing takes place.
Amen to that.

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Originally Posted by Amazin1
how do you tell looking at the block? this should be good...
If someone is running an aftermarket block its a good bet they are packing cubes. Some stroke the stock block but thats really a cheap way of doing it. Of course many kids will say they are stroked with a stock block you meet on the street and they are not. You could argue you could look at the injectors on a n/a car to tell but a lot of people overinject them(ie 30lbers on a heads,cam mild 306). Then if you are running a carb you can't tell either.. Been building 302 based motors since 1995. I would never ever use a stock block on a stroker,big boost or anything that needs to be reved high. Of course I cracked on my own block back in 2000-was my fault though
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That's ok if they're running an aftermarket block but, that's still no quarantee you can look at the block and tell. i've built many 5.0's and most guys i know use a stock block to keep the cost down. they're good to about 500hp. most normal guys running street cars can't afford to do an aftermarket block. and almost every foxbody out there has upgraded injectors...at least 24's. not trying to be a jerk but that's not a real reliable way to identify a 347...



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