LT1 killed by a 2V??
04-18-2012, 06:28 AM
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04-18-2012, 08:36 AM
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I'm not talking about what my car would do with a "good lt car". What does that even mean? Is the OP's car not a "good lt car"? Also the Mach 1 isn't any better than another 4v. They have more compression but **** poor camshafts over the earlier ones. So you have a friend with a cammed LT1 that has been inside the shortblock run 12.2....wow.
And the last LS1 I raced on the street lost by a good 5 lengths...there goes your argument.
And the last LS1 I raced on the street lost by a good 5 lengths...there goes your argument.
I thought 12.2@114 was good for a lt(1st time out too)(first time down the track in this car) with a rebuild because the guy before him melted 2 pistons. He used pistons from another stock engine and stuck this thing together with a mild cam.....pretty much a junk yard build. He has $2200 in the whole mess...rebuild, car, everything. Did that on the used nitto's I sold him. You can't give credit where credit is due to your one sided bullshit nut swinging. If he fools with the car and dynotune's it with a set of long tubes it will probably go into the 11's.
I'll put it another way for ya. It has enough to wax your Mach on a 2800rpm launch.....easily
04-18-2012, 08:38 AM
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And the one before said you really weren't much of a race. Lots of different combo's out there stoppy. Some perform good, some not so good.
I thought 12.2@114 was good for a lt(1st time out too)(first time down the track in this car) with a rebuild because the guy before him melted 2 pistons. He used pistons from another stock engine and stuck this thing together with a mild cam.....pretty much a junk yard build. He has $2200 in the whole mess...rebuild, car, everything. Did that on the used nitto's I sold him. You can't give credit where credit is due to your one sided bullshit nut swinging. If he fools with the car and dynotune's it with a set of long tubes it will probably go into the 11's.
I'll put it another way for ya. It has enough to wax your Mach on a 2800rpm launch.....easily
I thought 12.2@114 was good for a lt(1st time out too)(first time down the track in this car) with a rebuild because the guy before him melted 2 pistons. He used pistons from another stock engine and stuck this thing together with a mild cam.....pretty much a junk yard build. He has $2200 in the whole mess...rebuild, car, everything. Did that on the used nitto's I sold him. You can't give credit where credit is due to your one sided bullshit nut swinging. If he fools with the car and dynotune's it with a set of long tubes it will probably go into the 11's.
I'll put it another way for ya. It has enough to wax your Mach on a 2800rpm launch.....easily
04-18-2012, 08:50 AM
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The only thing I said to ruffle ya'lls feathers is he should've won. Then the bullshit ensues. And yes with the evidence in hand, he should have won.
04-18-2012, 09:00 AM
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04-18-2012, 09:17 AM
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C&L intake and plenum, BBK equal-length shorty headers, Bassani catted x-pipe, Borla exhaust. 5spd GTs generally put down ~230rwhp stock. I hope that 50 shot comment was a joke...
04-18-2012, 09:18 AM
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And the one before said you really weren't much of a race. Lots of different combo's out there stoppy. Some perform good, some not so good.
I thought 12.2@114 was good for a lt(1st time out too)(first time down the track in this car) with a rebuild because the guy before him melted 2 pistons. He used pistons from another stock engine and stuck this thing together with a mild cam.....pretty much a junk yard build. He has $2200 in the whole mess...rebuild, car, everything. Did that on the used nitto's I sold him. You can't give credit where credit is due to your one sided bullshit nut swinging. If he fools with the car and dynotune's it with a set of long tubes it will probably go into the 11's.
I'll put it another way for ya. It has enough to wax your Mach on a 2800rpm launch.....easily
I thought 12.2@114 was good for a lt(1st time out too)(first time down the track in this car) with a rebuild because the guy before him melted 2 pistons. He used pistons from another stock engine and stuck this thing together with a mild cam.....pretty much a junk yard build. He has $2200 in the whole mess...rebuild, car, everything. Did that on the used nitto's I sold him. You can't give credit where credit is due to your one sided bullshit nut swinging. If he fools with the car and dynotune's it with a set of long tubes it will probably go into the 11's.
I'll put it another way for ya. It has enough to wax your Mach on a 2800rpm launch.....easily
A cammed built LT1 that runs low 12's and MIGHT go high 11's with a tune and longtubes.
Impressive, bring that LT1 to the track I'll run him and then afterwards he can wax my car in the pits for me. 
04-18-2012, 09:30 AM
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So this Mustang in the video had heads and cam and was running 288RWHP?
04-18-2012, 09:51 AM
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I still blame the heads for the Mustang's lack of power for mods, ported PI's or not. I know 2 valves aren't insane power makers, but from what little research I did for mine, any stock 2 valve head isn't helping your power situation.
Solid aftermarket(!) heads and a good cam will easily make over 300whp.
Solid aftermarket(!) heads and a good cam will easily make over 300whp.
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04-18-2012, 09:59 AM
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I still blame the heads for the Mustang's lack of power for mods. Ported PI's or not. I know 2 valves aren't insane power makers, but from what little research I did for mine, any stock 2 valve head isn't helping your power situation.
Solid aftermarket(!) heads and a good cam will easily make over 300whp.
Solid aftermarket(!) heads and a good cam will easily make over 300whp.
04-18-2012, 10:03 AM
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He said above its ported PI's. Maybe its a Comp Thumpr cam? Aren't they almost entirely for sound with little in the way of gains compared to a real performance cam?
http://www.compcams.com/Thumpr/index.html
http://www.compcams.com/Thumpr/index.html
04-18-2012, 11:32 AM
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If you want to compare times he has already outrun you at the track....12.2@114> your 12.6@108....quit talking out your ***.
04-18-2012, 11:38 AM
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.They are 262 duration on the intake, 270 on the exhaust, and .500 lift on both the intake and the exhaust
BUT the mustang driver out drove me, and had plenty of power to win.
04-18-2012, 11:48 AM
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Yep. heads/cams, longtubes, exhaust, and made 288/305. His cams love nitrous though and made decent power, but what do you expect from a 2v?
.They are 262 duration on the intake, 270 on the exhaust, and .500 lift on both the intake and the exhaust
mod per mod an LT1 is going to come out on top. Imagine if I had heads/cam vs a bolt on mustang.
BUT the mustang driver out drove me, and had plenty of power to win.
.They are 262 duration on the intake, 270 on the exhaust, and .500 lift on both the intake and the exhaust
mod per mod an LT1 is going to come out on top. Imagine if I had heads/cam vs a bolt on mustang.
BUT the mustang driver out drove me, and had plenty of power to win.
04-18-2012, 12:33 PM
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You can go back threw the threads and find it....or ask him. You even said in that thread he pulled you so hard you thought he had a cam.
If you want to compare times he has already outrun you at the track....12.2@114> your 12.6@108....quit talking out your ***.
If you want to compare times he has already outrun you at the track....12.2@114> your 12.6@108....quit talking out your ***.
04-18-2012, 01:45 PM
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I agree with this. He prob either had ported stockers or the PI heads off the mid 01-04's and is calling it a real head upgrade. I'm not surprised about where this race was heading, but if the mustang had better heads it should have pulled harder. 2v's biggest problem is the heads. Cams are almost worthless on anything close to stock heads.
Not defending the mustangs but if that's a head and cam Stang and running 13's something is wrong.
I own a 02 M6 NBM formula now,can't beat it for power and gas. But I did enjoy the sound of the Stang rolling through the gears.