MY DREAM COME TRUE! 2004 911 turbo kill!
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w/ a 224 cam, I'd expect to at least keep up w/ the porsche. The nitrous makes it no contest. You car should be running low 11's @ 125+. the 10 bolt will be the biggest enemy, until you grenade it (mine let go w/ a huge boom at the top of 1st gear) and get a better one.
Get it to the track w/ decent tires and let us know.
good kill.
Get it to the track w/ decent tires and let us know.
good kill.
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Originally Posted by 2002_TAWS6
Warning. Long post. Results on bottom. Heres the story:
So I've done some good mods including a 100 shot and always wanted to beat a 911 turbo. After all the mods have been done, Ive been just looking for one of those so desperately forever as my goals were to beat those freaking bad *** cars.
So I was cruising with my friend in my car and he was in his completely stock 02 Z06. We spot a 911 turbo at a drive thru and pass by revving our engines LOUD. I didnt really expect him to follow us so we left right away. The Z06 was in front of me and happened to catch the green light while i stopped at the red light. Then the next thing I know is the 911 turbo lines behind me at the light. So I call my friend and ask him to hurry his *** as he always wanted to know if he could beat one of those. We finally drive by to another red light and the 2004 911 turbo is side by side at the red light waiting on green. I was freaking out because of his 4WD so I hit a couple of buttons on the NX switch opening the bottle and arming it. I did not want to go WOT on first gear as it would activate the nitrous and if it hooks it will probably shatter my 10 bolt. Light goes green and I get a very small head start. Then I saw him jumping in on me HARD and I didnt want to lose so I said the HECK with the 10 bolt! I floored it on first at around 4500 rpms and passed him by 3 car lengths by the time I hit 3rd gear. The street was curvy so we went the highway for better safety.
Race 2:
The Z06 followed and asked the 911 turbo to race from a 2nd gear roll as the Z06 owner had major traction problems in 1st gear. So they are lined up in the 3 lane highway with me being 1 car length in front on an empty lane watching them on my right side. They smash the pedal down and as soon as the Z06 pulls the 911 turbo and comes to my rear bumper i slam the pedal down and the nitrous kicks in. Thats when we felt like being in a road course with 3 cars side by side racing on the interstate at 4AM lol. The Z06 gets him by a care length and a half at the end of his 4th gear and im flying in front doing about 150! So I beat them but the race was not still not perfectly setup fairly to my advantage.
Race 3:
The Z06 decides to go home after his 911 turbo kill and I decide to race once more from a 2nd gear roll to get a closer comparison on my cars performance against a 911 turbo. I tried to race him from a roll with us both slightly accelerating so i can make sure he doesnt bitch about the turbo lag. We go for it and by the time I hit 4th gear I was 4 car lengths ahead if not more (couldnt count was going too fast and objects in the mirror seemed to disappear lol).
This was the best race I ever had in my entire life. the 911 turbo owner was super cool and also let me drive his car! I could not believe how light his clutch pedal was! His shifter was freaking awesome too.
Ive also raced my friends 02 Z06 on spray before. Here are the results up to date:
1) Me vs. Z06 from 2nd gear roll on spray to mid 4th gear = 4 car lengths of a lead. WIN!
2) Z06 vs. 911 turbo from 2nd gear roll to end of 4th = Z06 wins by car length and a half.
3) Me vs. 911 turbo from 2nd gear roll to beginning of 4th = 4 car lengths of a lead if not more. WIN.
Man I loved the comments the 911 turbo made about my car. He was like "******* american cars" lol!
I later took the 911 turbo for a drive showing him what my nitrous setup can do. I told him ill floor it in 2nd and he can hit the button whenever. So he hits the button and it throws him back to his seat. Small guy wasnt used to the high torque pull
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So far Im EXTREMELY happy about my cars performance. It has always been a dream for me beating 911 turbos. I feel absolutely fantastic about living the dream![Nod](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_nod.gif)
So I've done some good mods including a 100 shot and always wanted to beat a 911 turbo. After all the mods have been done, Ive been just looking for one of those so desperately forever as my goals were to beat those freaking bad *** cars.
So I was cruising with my friend in my car and he was in his completely stock 02 Z06. We spot a 911 turbo at a drive thru and pass by revving our engines LOUD. I didnt really expect him to follow us so we left right away. The Z06 was in front of me and happened to catch the green light while i stopped at the red light. Then the next thing I know is the 911 turbo lines behind me at the light. So I call my friend and ask him to hurry his *** as he always wanted to know if he could beat one of those. We finally drive by to another red light and the 2004 911 turbo is side by side at the red light waiting on green. I was freaking out because of his 4WD so I hit a couple of buttons on the NX switch opening the bottle and arming it. I did not want to go WOT on first gear as it would activate the nitrous and if it hooks it will probably shatter my 10 bolt. Light goes green and I get a very small head start. Then I saw him jumping in on me HARD and I didnt want to lose so I said the HECK with the 10 bolt! I floored it on first at around 4500 rpms and passed him by 3 car lengths by the time I hit 3rd gear. The street was curvy so we went the highway for better safety.
Race 2:
The Z06 followed and asked the 911 turbo to race from a 2nd gear roll as the Z06 owner had major traction problems in 1st gear. So they are lined up in the 3 lane highway with me being 1 car length in front on an empty lane watching them on my right side. They smash the pedal down and as soon as the Z06 pulls the 911 turbo and comes to my rear bumper i slam the pedal down and the nitrous kicks in. Thats when we felt like being in a road course with 3 cars side by side racing on the interstate at 4AM lol. The Z06 gets him by a care length and a half at the end of his 4th gear and im flying in front doing about 150! So I beat them but the race was not still not perfectly setup fairly to my advantage.
Race 3:
The Z06 decides to go home after his 911 turbo kill and I decide to race once more from a 2nd gear roll to get a closer comparison on my cars performance against a 911 turbo. I tried to race him from a roll with us both slightly accelerating so i can make sure he doesnt bitch about the turbo lag. We go for it and by the time I hit 4th gear I was 4 car lengths ahead if not more (couldnt count was going too fast and objects in the mirror seemed to disappear lol).
This was the best race I ever had in my entire life. the 911 turbo owner was super cool and also let me drive his car! I could not believe how light his clutch pedal was! His shifter was freaking awesome too.
Ive also raced my friends 02 Z06 on spray before. Here are the results up to date:
1) Me vs. Z06 from 2nd gear roll on spray to mid 4th gear = 4 car lengths of a lead. WIN!
2) Z06 vs. 911 turbo from 2nd gear roll to end of 4th = Z06 wins by car length and a half.
3) Me vs. 911 turbo from 2nd gear roll to beginning of 4th = 4 car lengths of a lead if not more. WIN.
Man I loved the comments the 911 turbo made about my car. He was like "******* american cars" lol!
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I later took the 911 turbo for a drive showing him what my nitrous setup can do. I told him ill floor it in 2nd and he can hit the button whenever. So he hits the button and it throws him back to his seat. Small guy wasnt used to the high torque pull
![The Jester](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_jest.gif)
So far Im EXTREMELY happy about my cars performance. It has always been a dream for me beating 911 turbos. I feel absolutely fantastic about living the dream
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12.7????????? Damn sorry to say this but this guy sucks at driving.
Im glad I beat the porsche from a roll that way theres no excuses like "im bad at launching"...etc![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
I ran a 12.8 @115 with a 2.3 60FT without the 100 shot. Thats a cam only car with bolt ons. Im sure he could do way better than that. His trap speeds are TOOO low! 111mph? sounds like he hit the brakes before the finish line. One thing for sure is I would never be able to beat him without the spray especially from a roll race.
those cars are really capable of running 11.9s @ 119. For average drivers low 12s are acceptable but not high 12s.
I sure hope 111mph was a typo error or ill start racing them without the spray at the 1/4 mile track
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Im glad I beat the porsche from a roll that way theres no excuses like "im bad at launching"...etc
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I ran a 12.8 @115 with a 2.3 60FT without the 100 shot. Thats a cam only car with bolt ons. Im sure he could do way better than that. His trap speeds are TOOO low! 111mph? sounds like he hit the brakes before the finish line. One thing for sure is I would never be able to beat him without the spray especially from a roll race.
those cars are really capable of running 11.9s @ 119. For average drivers low 12s are acceptable but not high 12s.
I sure hope 111mph was a typo error or ill start racing them without the spray at the 1/4 mile track
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Originally Posted by SouthFL.02.SS
11.9 @ 119?!
Getting close I am. I trapped 118 last weekend. Hmmm :grin:.
Getting close I am. I trapped 118 last weekend. Hmmm :grin:.
In other words I might be able to beat that 12.7 2002 911 turbo car without spray if he messes up in the 1/4 mile but I sure as hell know im going to NEED the bottle on a rolling street race.
I raced him at 3 honks and he fell behind at initial start (turbo lag). I also raced him while accelerating sort of (should of been much easier for him to get that turbo spooling up) and ofcourse i beat him again but it should of been a closer race.
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Nope no typo, he said he was getting terrible wheelhop off the line hence the crappy 60s. He's not a drag racer, more of a road course guy (which is perfect, cause the 911TT is really in its element there).
That thing pulls like a freight train on the street and doesn't stop. At 120+ it pulls as hard (or harder) as my z28 at half that speed, its truly amazing. Easily the fastest car I've ever driven... it also turns and stops like nothing else I've driven, z06 included.
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That thing pulls like a freight train on the street and doesn't stop. At 120+ it pulls as hard (or harder) as my z28 at half that speed, its truly amazing. Easily the fastest car I've ever driven... it also turns and stops like nothing else I've driven, z06 included.
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Originally Posted by jon944lee
was this a 996 model 911 twin turbo?
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Originally Posted by ls1itr
Nope no typo, he said he was getting terrible wheelhop off the line hence the crappy 60s. He's not a drag racer, more of a road course guy (which is perfect, cause the 911TT is really in its element there).
That thing pulls like a freight train on the street and doesn't stop. At 120+ it pulls as hard (or harder) as my z28 at half that speed, its truly amazing. Easily the fastest car I've ever driven... it also turns and stops like nothing else I've driven, z06 included.
That thing pulls like a freight train on the street and doesn't stop. At 120+ it pulls as hard (or harder) as my z28 at half that speed, its truly amazing. Easily the fastest car I've ever driven... it also turns and stops like nothing else I've driven, z06 included.
Thanks for the input on how the 911 turbo pulled. Makes me feel even better now that i accomplished beating him by a distance of 4 car lengths
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Its funny how I used to think those cars could outrun Z06s from a roll but I saw the Z06 in front by almost 2 car lengths with my own eyes. Do you think the 911 turbo would of been in front if he did not have the turbo lag? I dont really think so just wanted to get some opinions...
dont know much about the difference between 996 and 911 but I sure as hell know the 996s are WAAAAY faster.. just dont have the technical details..
I thought the Z06s are faster than those 04 911 turbos even at the race track? (talking about the circuits here)..
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Originally Posted by MillaTK
Now, i know for being the porsche fan that I am... it is really pathetic to be asking this question, but what is the difference between the 996 and the regular old 911? I have heard of them before, but never really looked into it...
PS...Along with the 996 came watercooling as opposed to air cooled engines in the 993s and previous 911s....I think......
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Originally Posted by FLYNLO
Milla, I am gonna take a shot here but definitely no expert on the Porsches. The term "911" is really just a general term. When people talk about 993 or 996 they are referring to the generation of 911. So 911 is the general term and 996 or 993 would be the specific model or generation. Someone asked about it in this thread and he just wanted to make sure we were talking about the latest iteration(996) of the 911 turbo as opposed to the 993 turbo which really wasn't all that fast...relatively speaking. You'll also noticed he answered his own question by referencing the model year. There is a 996 Carerra, a 996 Cabriolet, a 996 Carerra4, and of course the 996 Turbo. You with me here. The latest iteration of the 911 is the 996. All 911s that are being built right now are 996s regardless of the actual specific model(Cab,Car,Turbo,etc.). You could liken it to a comparison between a C4 and a C5. They are both Corvettes but different generations and different performance.
PS...Along with the 996 came watercooling as opposed to air cooled engines in the 993s and previous 911s....I think......
PS...Along with the 996 came watercooling as opposed to air cooled engines in the 993s and previous 911s....I think......
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pdd thanks for the cool response ![Cheers!!](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_cheers.gif)
This guy definetly made my day! :
(he's talking about the 2004 911 turbo here, but it feels freaking awesome knowing that my car is doing even better in straight line performance
I wonder how he would be able to describe the performance of my car?
Muwahahaha! )
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This guy definetly made my day! :
Originally Posted by ls1itr
That thing pulls like a freight train on the street and doesn't stop. At 120+ it pulls as hard (or harder) as my z28 at half that speed, its truly amazing. Easily the fastest car I've ever driven... it also turns and stops like nothing else I've driven, z06 included.
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Hi all, that guy with the 911 turbo who can't drive is me. Nice kill.
2.2X 60's. Consistently. I would either spin or get wheel hop, nothing much in between. A bit of clutch slipping should have helped, but I like my clutch. Yes, it is a pathetic 60' for an AWD car. Even my old 240hp rear wheel drive M coupe would pull a 2 flat at Bandimere.
I'm not in the business of making excuses, I ran what I ran that night. 12.7@111-112. We had a 25mph headwind -- it might have chopped a couple MPH off the trap.
The claimed high 11's are IMO a bit out of line with the power to weight ratio of the car. The Z06 has similar power at the wheels and weighs less -- and you still rarely see those guys getting into the upper 11's stock or near stock.
It comes down to driver. You won't find any classes where the cars run one another. Lapping days are for fun. I'd put more faith in the 911 running fast laps longer given the better brakes, otherwise it's a toss up. I've seen well driven Z06's humble faster cars with poor drivers.
LS1ITR has very few mods (99Z M6, TSP Lid, Cutout w/QTEC, Shaner S3 TB, LS6 intake, SSRA) and I only slowly walk him on the highway. The turbo is a quick car -- but it is not all that. A couple grand in a LS1 and you can be quicker in a straight line.
Of course another 80hp only costs me 550 bucks and 10 minutes of installation time ...
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Thats really odd. His 60ft was not THAT bad was it? I mean I ran a 12.8 @115 with a 2.3 60ft?
I'm not in the business of making excuses, I ran what I ran that night. 12.7@111-112. We had a 25mph headwind -- it might have chopped a couple MPH off the trap.
The claimed high 11's are IMO a bit out of line with the power to weight ratio of the car. The Z06 has similar power at the wheels and weighs less -- and you still rarely see those guys getting into the upper 11's stock or near stock.
I thought the Z06s are faster than those 04 911 turbos even at the race track?
LS1ITR has very few mods (99Z M6, TSP Lid, Cutout w/QTEC, Shaner S3 TB, LS6 intake, SSRA) and I only slowly walk him on the highway. The turbo is a quick car -- but it is not all that. A couple grand in a LS1 and you can be quicker in a straight line.
Of course another 80hp only costs me 550 bucks and 10 minutes of installation time ...
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Originally Posted by MillaTK
Ok... I think thats what I was thinking about when I thought you didn't have a cam... I remember seeing that time, and knew you didnt have a cam. I didn't know you had gotten one. How long have you had it? Just curious...
:edit: The burnout video was the day I got my cam in. If that helps any.