UBoysPlayBall?

I wouldn't say all that. Reminds me of when Bob and I had a dispute ovet at LS1.com about his low 11-sec "bolt-on" car ('99 Cobra), and soon it was discovered that car actually had forged internals (and God knows what else). When it comes to drag racing I take just about everything I hear with a grain of salt.

Irunelevens

Forged internals do nothing for performance.

UBoysPlayBall?

No "Ringer" at all. lol There were about 4 or 5 mags alone (GMHTP, Car Craft, C&D, etc) that trapped 104-6. I trapped 103-104 on a regular basis. Being the previous owner of an LT1 SS I can assure you no stock 4v SN95 will pull an LT1 SS up top, down low, midrange or anywhere else for that matter. The LT1 SS made more horsepower and torque, and was geared much better than the 3.27-geared Cobra. To say one won't trap that is silly when Evan Smith did it, one of the main editors of one of the premier Ford magazines.

Funny thing is, id be willing to bet you'd be hard pressed to show me a road test/track vid off a STOCK 96-98 Cobra going anything faster than high 13's, despite the claims.

As for LT1's getting into the 12's, that's easy. Full bolt-ons , gears, and tire and walaa..

UBoysPlayBall?

Think about what you're saying. That car had higher compression pistons and lighter rods and crank. That accounts for an increase in performance.

Irunelevens

Cobra crank is forged from the factory...who ever changes those?

UBoysPlayBall?

I don't think you're getting it. I said "lighter" crank & rods, as in less reciprocating weight, as well as higher compression pistons.

Irunelevens

Is there a mod list you'd like to provide for the car in question?

UBoysPlayBall?

Reaching low now eh?


This was 2007 so unfortunately no. But since you say you're familiar with Bob you should already know the details.

Irunelevens

No reaching here, you brought it up. I figured you would remember some details.

clonedws6

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To say a 96-98 cobra will out perform an lt1 ss is just insanely stupid

Bitemark46

I don't recall Bob ever saying he went low 11's with the stock longblock. After he built his motor for the season when he won FS in NMRA then yes it had a cast crank(lighter), factory rods, and flat tops (10.5:1...stock was 9.85:1). He was allowed a valve job per the FS rules and had to use stock OEM cobra cams. His car made 356rwhp. In FS trim it did go mid 11's on a 275 BFG DR (class requirement). On slicks with the weight taken out (mod motors got a weight hit) it did go low 11's. I think his fastest pass on the stock longblock (not FS trim) was 11.6X.

FWIW, my VERY first pass down a drag strip ever was in my 98 which was stock down to the filter. I went 14.3@100mph....with a 2.33 60ft. It was during the summer here in FL at night. So I'm sure in good weather conditions and a decent 2.0 I'm sure I could have went 13.8ish.

Heater

LT1's are like wine, each passing year they get better and better

HioSSilver

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Haven't you been beat by enough ls cars to know that's not gonna happen.

There used to be a whole group of 4v cobra guys at my local track struggleing to go high 13's with bolt-ons.

ohioborn80

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I had a 97 cobra in 2001. Simply cause could.not find a 2000+ SS. Any way stock car went 13.9. Did TB,exhaust,coldair,pulleys,and a tune. Best I got out of it was a 12.7. I forget trap speeds. I was able to beat Z28's on average both stock. And a few SS's. But. 8 out of 10 SS would beat me stock. My buddies 97 ws6 I was able to edge out both stock. We both did basically same mods he was walking me every time. After getting *** handed to me by ws6/SS with same mods I had no issue ex wife taking car in divorce.

Mike Morris

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Lot of fail in your post. Mag times? You got be kidding me. Cobra was tough to drive and most main street mags couldn't drive to save their life. Evan Smith runs at private track rentals at Etown and weighs as much as a can of soda. Oh yea Evan best in a 96-98 Cobra was mid 13s at 104MPH at Atco. I was there. Stock LT1 trapping 104 MPH-no way. An SS offers no more power potential over a Z28 plus it weights more. LT1s running 12s with bolt ons-that tough but doable and you cant run tires on an M6 car or kaboom. Like I said I own both-one you learn how to drive one an LT1 will get inched and pulled up top. Ill convert some vids. As far as Bob I didn't really follow his black 99 Cobra once it got past bolt ons

Great post.

clonedws6

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Thanks

Jay z28

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Why does it seem that almost no one knows how to drive Mustangs properly? That always seems to be the case.

Bitemark46

Because many of them are afraid to twist it up to their stock redine of 6800. lol. I'm not kiddin either. I get in shift discussions on SVTP with them. They shift at 6k. I just laugh.

whatsnext

^ This times a thousand!

Mach Boy

You didn't say that at first though. Not until after he had said forged internals do nothing. On that note I have forged internals with stock compression and those internals are probably heavier than my stock ones. I had that done as a precaution if I ever threw a big shot of nitrous on the car (which I have not). But a forged block doesn't mean jack.