PewterScreaminMach

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As far as traction goes, I've broken the tire loose quite often at the track on my 600 (pretty sure I've got it on video), and I'm down quite a bit of power and torque from Beans' 750, as you can see in his video. It's happened on both the launch and on shifts. When you WOT launch a bike with an aggressive clutch slip, there are a lot of variables involved (not just with the bike) and on occasion, tire spin happens even on stock height/wheelbase bikes. When track prep is bad, the track is cold or slick or greasy, the tire isn't heated up, etc, it all affects traction.

Hell, last night I was getting on the highway on a long on ramp. 75 degrees, dry roads, no cars on the ramp, I had already ridden a few miles aggressively so the tire was warm, perfect. I clutched it up a bit in first gear at about 35 mph with the intention of popping the wheel a little and riding it through second just havin some fun. When I popped the clutch, the tire spun and the back end kicked out violently, completely unexpectedly. All known variables tell me there should have been no traction issues, but it happened. And I'm on Power Pures at the moment since I haven't swapped tires from my most recent track days down in NJ.

Even if I roll out of my driveway on a 60 degree day and immediately clutch it hard in first, I can spin the 2CT rear without touching the brake. I absolutely believe Beans being on a more powerful and torquier bike, regular Pilot Powers, and a track that's known for being slick. After riding with him the other night, he definitely knows the difference between tire spin and a bad launch.

Thanks, man. I'm still improving. I know it's got a 10.8 in it at LVD with some more practice and good weather, and I personally believe I can match the magazine time (10.75) if I can get it to Atco on a cold day, but until either of those happen, I'll keep practicing and be happy with my 10.90.

Beans

Honestly i doubt i'll be back there anytime soon. I'm going to loudon for a track day at NHMS in 2 weeks, but beyond that going to NED just hasn't been worth it for me.

Maybe when i have a trailer, but riding 8 hours to get crap times on an ice rink just doesn't work.

Thanks bro. I know you've had issues spinning down the back 1/8th in a 400whp car so you know how it can be up there.

Thanks man...i just don't know the difference between neutral and 2nd apparently. Because S&S doesn't think i can admit my failures, i missed 2nd gear on two runs. The only two times i think i've ever missed 2nd racing this bike and PSM is in the other lane...awesome.


If i'm free next time you go to LVD i'll head out there with you.

PewterScreaminMach

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Not a great video because it's from the side, but you'll get the picture and see the bike kick back hard. This was at LVD a year and a half ago. Bone stock 600. Obviously the run was a throw away at that point.

http://youtu.be/zISQzRmRbSQ

ScreaminRedZ

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Looked like tire spin to me.

Sticks n Stones

Man that's a trip, never seen a stock wheelbase none lowered bike spin. Seen a 19xrwhp gixxer 1000 spin at the track once, but he was lowered and pro driven. What are they prepping tracks with nowadays vaseline?

ZFreie

Ya think? lol


Well either way, if your ever up here and wanna meet up let me know! lol

evangto87

iTrader: (6)

dead hook!

mikh338

iTrader: (16)

did not see your location, and seing you run at LVD I completely understand the traction issues. track prep sucks there

Beans

PSM runs at LVD, i usually go to New England Dragway.

I have a friend who went to NED for years, and after his first trip to LVD he was raving about how great the prep was.

Next time down the strip will be LVD. Whatever NED puts on their track or whatever their surface is basically requires slicks.

punishmentcycle

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ill be in RI tonight with a few friends..i would say lets gets the cars together with evan but ill be on my zx10..if u want some comparison runs with a 1000 and your 750 beans ,,im down

punishmentcycle

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but if plans change ill bring the car

PewterScreaminMach

iTrader: (7)

Which sprockets do you have on right now?

ScreaminRedZ

iTrader: (3)

I vote you bring the car, lol.

punishmentcycle

iTrader: (6)

stock..i dont like it with gearing. i most likely will bring the car as its calling for more damned rain

Beans

I don't think i'll be on the bike tonight because i have plans and won't be sleeping home, and dont want to deal with rain in the morning.

I do want to get some runs with a 1000 on film, and would be happy to line up with you soon.

punishmentcycle

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Sounds good .. Everybody canceled on me due to the rain tomorrow.. Was supposed to spend the day at the beach.. But soon my boys, we'll get those runs in.!!

Jared8