ZL1 vs. GT500 Insideline (Bittersweet)
06-14-2012, 09:14 PM
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ZR1 (aka exotic hunter) has been king since 2008 only the GTR came close. Ford can only speculate about beating it with a new platform. C7 ZR1 will once again set the standard while the base C7 handles the GT500. History repeats itself.
.... and I'll buy your C6 ZR1 off you 
.... and I'll buy your C6 ZR1 off you 
06-14-2012, 09:43 PM
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ZR1 (aka exotic hunter) has been king since 2008 only the GTR came close. Ford can only speculate about beating it with a new platform. C7 ZR1 will once again set the standard while the base C7 handles the GT500. History repeats itself.
.... and I'll buy your C6 ZR1 off you
.... and I'll buy your C6 ZR1 off you
06-14-2012, 11:34 PM
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Yea....take a close look at that vid. They used a 10 SS Camaro with who knows how many miles vs a brand new Boss. Does that seem fair? The Boss beat it by 2.5 sec. or so. I would like to see that vid done again with a 12 SS Camaro and the fe4 suspension with a new car on new tires and not some 2yr old tires.
How can the car be nose heavy with 50/50 weight distribution?....think about it. It does feel big at first, but if you drive it for a few hours it comes around. 03turbmach has drove both and said he thought the Camaro handled better so to each his own on that. Could just be the feel someone prefers.
I like the looks of both. But your not ever gonna make a live axle feel like a IRS car. It don't have the adjustabilty to compensate as well to irregular roads or to be able to independently adjust for toe/camber . This is what makes the Camaro better to me, I can add power and it would not stay stock for long.
For sure practice makes perfect.....well for some anyway.
Oh yea for the email I got from evangto87 saying IRS has no real advantage......I see you wised up and deleted where you said that
How can the car be nose heavy with 50/50 weight distribution?....think about it. It does feel big at first, but if you drive it for a few hours it comes around. 03turbmach has drove both and said he thought the Camaro handled better so to each his own on that. Could just be the feel someone prefers.
I like the looks of both. But your not ever gonna make a live axle feel like a IRS car. It don't have the adjustabilty to compensate as well to irregular roads or to be able to independently adjust for toe/camber . This is what makes the Camaro better to me, I can add power and it would not stay stock for long.
For sure practice makes perfect.....well for some anyway.
Oh yea for the email I got from evangto87 saying IRS has no real advantage......I see you wised up and deleted where you said that
06-15-2012, 06:42 AM
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06-15-2012, 08:49 AM
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no because wasting my time arguing with someone on a forum is rather pointless.... and i can assure you, a current ss will not have anything for the car on a road course. But anyway... your right, im wrong.
06-15-2012, 10:55 AM
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that said, i agree with your previous statements.
06-15-2012, 11:28 AM
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Of coarse you agree with him.....you have his ******* in your mouth.
06-15-2012, 11:57 AM
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06-15-2012, 01:51 PM
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How can the car be nose heavy with 50/50 weight distribution?....think about it. It does feel big at first, but if you drive it for a few hours it comes around. 03turbmach has drove both and said he thought the Camaro handled better so to each his own on that. Could just be the feel someone prefers.
It could feel nose heavy with 50/50 because of chassis and suspension design. A little negative camber on the front tires could make the car feel much more balanced.
06-15-2012, 02:13 PM
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I new it was close. They do have a little push to them but you have to be working them pretty hard for it to show up. Most pony cars have about 56%- 58% front bias......could be why they're on the *** happy side.
06-15-2012, 08:07 PM
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Trying to prepare it for a 1.5X 60 ft. If i cant achieve that off that bat, some Strange 2-ways will be added to the back
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06-15-2012, 09:41 PM
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or because you have no valid points. Now I'm not say the new fe4 car would beat a boss. I am saying it would be ALOT closer, maybe to close to call. You never even commented on if you thought that was a fair comparison. 2yr old car vs the lastest greatest Boss Laguna Seca
Of coarse you agree with him.....you have his ******* in your mouth.
Of coarse you agree with him.....you have his ******* in your mouth.
06-15-2012, 11:10 PM
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The GT500 is already pushing 15 lbs of boost (and that's straight from the mouth of FORD). No way they offer a warrantied production V8 with more boost than that. They would up the power in other ways.
