ZYBORG vs GTR vs GTR vs SUPRA
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Respectable ET? 4 mods and went 10.60@130 is doing pretty good. Figuring that was stock suspesnion, stock headers, stock tranny minus stall, full weight of about 3900lbs with me in it at 2600 DA. Slap a $3500 sc, off road x pipe,intake and go mid 10's with less then 500 miles on the car. Yep pretty good. I am waiting on you to get something that will out run me. Till then you have no room to say **** but I am faster.
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If he only made 405whp with full bolt ons he better get a new tune or something is wrong with his car. He should make least 430whp on a bad dyno. I know me and my buddies full bolt on manuals both made 450whp+ on the same dyno. Both custom tunes only diff was he had shorty headers I had long tubes. I ended up putting down 464 with some more tweaking to t he car. It ran best of 11.4@119 in 87* weather.
#64
To the boss guy...
A stock z06 will demolish you. Im talking ugly.
When my viper was stockish with just an air intake at 457 rwhp and 490 rwt at 3390 pounds I raced a stock 455 rwhp z06 probally 50 times or more.
Sure from a dead stop to 125 mph I could beat it everytime simply because I was the better driver by far.
But from literally any roll speed to 140 mph that stock z06 would put two legnths on me every single time.
Basically you have no idea what your focken with.
Recently I was a passenger in a 570 hp lp570 superlegerra gallardo. 130 mph and 11.1 with 0-60 in 3.1 bone stock.
Another buddies stock z06 challanged us and ill be damned if the z06 wasnt only a car back at 120 mph. Z06 was solo while two of us in the lambo but nevertheless gotdamn!
A stock z06 will demolish you. Im talking ugly.
When my viper was stockish with just an air intake at 457 rwhp and 490 rwt at 3390 pounds I raced a stock 455 rwhp z06 probally 50 times or more.
Sure from a dead stop to 125 mph I could beat it everytime simply because I was the better driver by far.
But from literally any roll speed to 140 mph that stock z06 would put two legnths on me every single time.
Basically you have no idea what your focken with.
Recently I was a passenger in a 570 hp lp570 superlegerra gallardo. 130 mph and 11.1 with 0-60 in 3.1 bone stock.
Another buddies stock z06 challanged us and ill be damned if the z06 wasnt only a car back at 120 mph. Z06 was solo while two of us in the lambo but nevertheless gotdamn!
#65
he was right at 570whp with the 150 shot. Mild cam and bolt on. I was making a little more then 620whp when raced him as i had just put the aluminum driveshaft on and off road x pipe maybe a little closer to 640. He mentioned his bottle pressure was only at 850 so that could have been his issue.
with one you one mentioned that is good. I also haved trapped as high as 132mph while going 10.6's and launched only at 1800rpms and not off the convertor. I needed better tires then to launh off it. Now with new power making 713whp I can't even launch off idle with out it getting sideways. The MT DR's are almost wore out and I am going to try a Hoosier DR as some buddies making as much and more power as me have great results with them.
with one you one mentioned that is good. I also haved trapped as high as 132mph while going 10.6's and launched only at 1800rpms and not off the convertor. I needed better tires then to launh off it. Now with new power making 713whp I can't even launch off idle with out it getting sideways. The MT DR's are almost wore out and I am going to try a Hoosier DR as some buddies making as much and more power as me have great results with them.
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Nope it has a cam and bolt ons with the spray. And that is what he said makes for power. Not sure how his shot is rated either. Wheel or crank HP. I will get a video of it and get it on video if we run again. He just took to drag strip for first time. Heavy chrome 20" rims and all. His best was 12.4@127 with a shitty 2.3 60ft. Street tires as well.
#68
If he only made 405whp with full bolt ons he better get a new tune or something is wrong with his car. He should make least 430whp on a bad dyno. I know me and my buddies full bolt on manuals both made 450whp+ on the same dyno. Both custom tunes only diff was he had shorty headers I had long tubes. I ended up putting down 464 with some more tweaking to t he car. It ran best of 11.4@119 in 87* weather.
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405 is lowest for a full bolt on 5.0..and what kind of da he run in? Temp etc. My manual trapped as good as 122 for me just not at 11.5 but 11.5. Which even then there is a bunch of full bolt ons that run closer to you at tracks up north that run lower 11's or 10's and all trap 120-125. They don't have to worry about running in 100* weather.also I think the 4.10's hurt my manual. Had me going threw traps in 5th gear at only 6000 rpms.
#70
405 is lowest for a full bolt on 5.0..and what kind of da he run in? Temp etc. My manual trapped as good as 122 for me just not at 11.5 but 11.5. Which even then there is a bunch of full bolt ons that run closer to you at tracks up north that run lower 11's or 10's and all trap 120-125. They don't have to worry about running in 100* weather.also I think the 4.10's hurt my manual. Had me going threw traps in 5th gear at only 6000 rpms.
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464whp just sounds high. The highest ive seen from any bolt on 5.0 anywhere with the acception of your dyno, is low 430s. Dynos vary. There are also ls2 stick cars out there that make 460whp + with cam, full exhaust, fast intake. My buddies only made 422whp. There have also been stock bosses that dynoed 415whp... there have been some that dyno 385whp..do you really think theres a 30whp swing in stock cars? All dyno variance
#72
Oh well his numbers are really weak either way. Bolt on only LS3 can make 420-430whp so only making 570whp with a 150 shot camd/bolt on is extremely low I mean unless the dyno he used is a very low reading dyno
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Respectable ET? 4 mods and went 10.60@130 is doing pretty good. Figuring that was stock suspesnion, stock headers, stock tranny minus stall, full weight of about 3900lbs with me in it at 2600 DA. Slap a $3500 sc, off road x pipe,intake and go mid 10's with less then 500 miles on the car. Yep pretty good. I am waiting on you to get something that will out run me. Till then you have no room to say **** but I am faster.
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Yep...the difference between me and you is my **** is'nt under performing. .....You walked right into that. That da your talking about would be worth .2 at most from perfect. The tracks I run at don't see perfect that often. When I went 11.1@126 the da was in the 700 range. That only leaving 1900 for you to whine about and still don't explain why you went 7mph slower with 40hp more....well not really you but the shop runnin your car.
#76
all i said was i think me and zyborg would be a decent race. Both our cars seem to run a bit stronger then the average mod for mod and we can both drive them. As far as c6 z06s... i dont mind losing to them considering they out run most 250k cars as well.. so its all good in love and war . Ill just suck one up when i have my 10psi and extra 250hp
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Its always tough to say online. I dont think he has anything hidden. I figure he makes about 390whp and with a light car and some good driving that can beat a lot of things out there. I saw a vid on here of a full bolt on 5.0 racing a full bolt on c5z. Both guys rowed the gears fairly well. GT made 407, z06 made 390. They were side by side with a slight edge to the z06. The problem with the new 5.0s is that so many people can afford them and give how strong they are a bad name. There transmission really does help out the power to weight ratio advantage of the vettes. But either way... i want to run a bolt on c5 z badly.