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Old 07-04-2012, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Beans
It wasn't gearing, it was the fact that he didn't brake boost.

Before anyone says it, all turbos lag. BMWs don't defy physics.
Agreed with beans here. You simply lost to a faster car that didnt brake boost. No shame in that though as they are pretty quick cars. However if i had your car, id steepen the rear gear a bit and make fifth a power gear. Even bolt on power is enough for fifth gear with 4.10s
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Originally Posted by willizm
The beauty of the 135i's and the 335i's is that you never know what you are going to get. It could be a stock 260whp car or a 450whp bolt on/tune/meth car. Most 335i guy's don't bother to install a catback(no gains there) because stock flows so well and pair that with some downpipes it doesn't sound much different than stock.
What are the limits to power for AWD 335ix's? Why aren't more of those running these super impressive times? A6 transmission limits? I PM'ed you as well
Old 07-04-2012, 11:00 PM
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The gearing is the reason you got out on hima at all. Stock 3.42's and you wouldn't have faired as well.
Old 07-05-2012, 03:04 AM
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Props to that 135i, by the looks and sound of things you have a strong running ls1 and props to you for driving the **** out of ur ls1.

Didnt know bimmer could move out that quick with those mods, he def had more top end... Either way, seemed like good run!
Old 07-05-2012, 05:29 AM
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Thanks guys! I need to hit up the track soon & see what I can get out of it..
Old 07-05-2012, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Beans
It wasn't gearing, it was the fact that he didn't brake boost.

Before anyone says it, all turbos lag. BMWs don't defy physics.
It's not that they defy physics, but they are one of the least laggy production turbo cars out there. BMW used small turbo's for quick spooling on the straight 6. You'd be surprised how quick those sucker spool. I've driven other turbo cars and can say that the bimmers aren't laggy at all with stock turbo's. Now is there lag? Sure, but not much.
Originally Posted by marc97taws6
What are the limits to power for AWD 335ix's? Why aren't more of those running these super impressive times? A6 transmission limits? I PM'ed you as well
The power limits are a little up in the air. The stock turbo cars will make around 450whp with meth but not many are running singles yet. Some are in the works so who knows. It's generally believed that the 6speed auto and AWD are the weaker platforms for big power, but that isn't stopping some that venture into single turbo territory. As for them vs their RWD counterparts, you got to remember that the xi's can weigh up to 300lbs more and with a well prepped track and sticky tire, the AWD advantage deminishes. They usually have good et's, but trap isn't that great do to the added weight. It is fun to crack off 12's on run flats though. Now where the AWD's are deadly is on the street running from a dig.
Old 07-05-2012, 07:27 PM
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Nice runs, my brother has a z28 that looks exactly like yours then I had a friend that had a blue 135i just like your buddies but with more done, they also raced too! Lol
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Originally Posted by DoggyB22
Thanks guys yea I'm going to hit up my friend with a stock C6 LS2 & see how it turns out. Should be pretty close
good runs, man. i don't know what to believe about the gearing debate. 342s seem to be pretty strong from a 25+ roll in stock cam cars.

a buddy just picked up an 05 m6 vette, it has vararam, some aftermarket catback, and a predator handheld tuner...we raced numerous times, all resulting in him putting 1-1.5 cars on me from 25/30 - 120ish. his second gear hammered me, 3rd and 4th he was barely creeping away. we both spun first. we did a 40 roll from 2nd gear and he REALLY hurt me that run haha.

i have a 99 m6 ws6 car literally with a lid, longtubes, and a bolted on muffler. stock everything else. no weight removed. yet.
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With our cars, the transmission gearing is solid through 4th. That 135i was pulling because it was the faster car without a doubt. He was already starting the pull before the Camaro was in 5th, so it wouldn't have mattered. Good race though. 135 moves out!
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Can't wait till one of u guys pick up one of the new BMW m1 I would like to see what they can really do. I work for a company that imports BMW so I get to play with them all the time. Just the other day I drove a new m6 and wow really suprized me!!
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Originally Posted by kent91011
Can't wait till one of u guys pick up one of the new BMW m1 I would like to see what they can really do. I work for a company that imports BMW so I get to play with them all the time. Just the other day I drove a new m6 and wow really suprized me!!
In a straight line they are about the same as a tune only 135i. They handle far better than a msport 135i though.
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Originally Posted by DoggyB22
Thanks guys yea I'm going to hit up my friend with a stock C6 LS2 & see how it turns out. Should be pretty close
Thought you already beat him?
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wow i thought you were gonna win.i guess i dont know nothing about those cars
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Originally Posted by AWDTBSS
Thought you already beat him?
Na Mitch got me by couple cars receptively



Originally Posted by 1_MEANZ28
wow i thought you were gonna win.i guess i dont know nothing about those cars
Haha no worries I thought so also
Old 07-06-2012, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by V8EATR
Good runs. My buddy has a 135i with dp's, fmic, twin intakes, axle back, tune, 14psi and it gets my 393whp GTO by about 2 cars. And he still has meth to do...time for a cam.
ah, yep.
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dang i'm glad i saw that video. i thought i was the only one.

did your buddy bitch about finding 3rd gear in that car? my friend kept saying that 3rd was a real ************ in his 05 car..
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Originally Posted by s346k
dang i'm glad i saw that video. i thought i was the only one.

did your buddy bitch about finding 3rd gear in that car? my friend kept saying that 3rd was a real ************ in his 05 car..
Haha na he didn't. He was chill about it. We both didn't know what the outcome would be & hes been wondering what his car makes. So it was a good comparison. I still wanna see what it would be like from a dig if he had some better tires. But he will be downpipe & FMIC pretty soon & Ill be H/C so we shall see
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My 02 WS6 M6 got eaten by a 135 with a custom tune. It was horrible
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Originally Posted by Emersan
My 02 WS6 M6 got eaten by a 135 with a custom tune. It was horrible

Is your WS6 stock?

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Old 07-19-2012, 02:25 AM
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Got to do a rematch against the 135i. He had less boost & was only on 91 instead of E85/91. Pretty damn good outcome!

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