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Intake/Longtube LS2 GTO vs 228R cammed Formula and G8 GT on 75 shot **VID**

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Old 07-12-2012, 09:24 AM
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Nice runs!

Im busy till August, but we should set something up. A friend of mine has a GTO with similar mods, ill give him a call as well. We are about 1/2hr NW of Hartford.
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Good runs as always
I love seeing someone else carry on the tradition.
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Originally Posted by NightmareTA
Yea I knew something was different on the MN12 trans. I think they have a short 1st and 2nd, and a longer 3rd and 4th?
Shorter 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, and 6th, I believe. 4th is 1:1 for both.
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Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ
Shorter 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, and 6th, I believe. 4th is 1:1 for both.
This gearing leaves a nice dead spot when you hit 4th.
I always hated that []

If I had it my way I would had the fbody gearing with a 3.73 rear and an mn12 5th gear.
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Yeah, PSM's Z28 used to fall on it's face when he hit 4th gear, and that was with a 4.10 rear gear.
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Good runs and vids. Like others said suprised Bird didn't pull the Goat...
Old 07-12-2012, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
Good runs and vids. Like others said suprised Bird didn't pull the Goat...
I'm not surprised at all.

People used to laugh in my face when I said that a typical cammed Fbody would be a good race for my GTO. It's obvious these cars don't get nearly the credit they deserve. And for some reason everyone thinks they're like 4000lbs, LOL.

Small, shitty stock tires prevent hard launches so their bone stock 1/4 mile times almost never impress anyone. The gearing makes for a shift into a dead spot in 4th right before the traps so the trap speed isn't indicative of how it'll actually run on the highway.

Nitto DRs alone sent me from 13.0 @ 108 to 12.5 @ 111.
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Originally Posted by NightmareTA
The formula was still on stock 3.42 gears. I'm sure he'd pick up big time with steeper gearing since cams love to come into their powerband faster. Both cars started in 2nd gear at around the same RPM...GTO just "hits" harder with the displacement advantage.

My brother has thought about modding the GTO more, but it's just so fun to race it as is because most people are surprised at the outcome with such minimal mods! It's such a fun car how it is, and with it's trap speed, it makes for a great match up with most street driven cars in the area.
If hes looking to really surprise people, he should pull some weight out and add some gear to it. Maybe some race wheels and a few more bolt ons. A few more car lengths and that car will upset some stout ones. My bolt on a4 gto was running 12.1 at 113 and that upset a lot of cammed f bodies.
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Nightmare, of course the gto hits harder. The trans is geared closer and it has steeper gears stock. Also that formula should be in the "power band" immediately being that it only has a 228
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Good stuff! Ron's car doin werk as usual.
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Originally Posted by clonedws6
Nightmare, of course the gto hits harder. The trans is geared closer and it has steeper gears stock. Also that formula should be in the "power band" immediately being that it only has a 228
Like I said before, gears would wake that thing up big time. And the GTO's only have a 3.45 rear gear to the F bodies 3.42, but the tranny is what gives them an edge in acceleration.

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Good stuff! Ron's car doin werk as usual.
Yea, that G8 is def a cool car. I always laugh when he runs someone because the thing sounds like a drag car with that exhaust, LOL. Car cranks on on the juice, especially the nano shot!
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Actually it's 3.46
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Originally Posted by clonedws6
Actually it's 3.46
Holy cow, I got it wrong by .01! LOL, thanks for the correction.
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Originally Posted by zz4camaro1980
Nice runs!

Im busy till August, but we should set something up. A friend of mine has a GTO with similar mods, ill give him a call as well. We are about 1/2hr NW of Hartford.
Def man, always down for a few runs!
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Good video and way to represent again ScreaminRedZ! and you should link this over on the g8board scream.
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Originally Posted by GXPPOWER
Good video and way to represent again ScreaminRedZ! and you should link this over on the g8board scream.
Thanks man! I'm putting together a video that will include these races (but from my car). I just want to get a couple more races before I finish the video. I'll post it up on G8board and grrrr8 when I do.
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they certainly don't run like that around here. i've ran 2 (ls2 m6) in the last week and neither one impressed me. one had full exhaust, clutch, tune, gutted interior with exception to a racing seat and various other weight loss avenues. from 40 in 2nd he basically jumped out and held it. i was starting to creep back at the top of 3rd and into 4th...but we would've had to go mach ***** before i caught/passed him. he was roughly .5-.75 of a car out on me. were very good races.

the other car was stock minus a borla setup that had high flow cats and catback or whatever. that wasn't real close...
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NightmareTA thanks for posting the videos, i had a blast the other night racing your brother gto he's car rolls out and the man can drive!! The first race he beat me good, i was glad in the second race i was able to hang a little better. I would like to set up another race in the future!

Nice races with SRZ! that was a great race both cars roll out.
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Originally Posted by mike991
NightmareTA thanks for posting the videos, i had a blast the other night racing your brother gto he's car rolls out and the man can drive!! The first race he beat me good, i was glad in the second race i was able to hang a little better. I would like to set up another race in the future!

Nice races with SRZ! that was a great race both cars roll out.
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No problem man! Had a blast as always. Anytime were out racing is a good time lol. That extra 500 RPM on the shifts helped you out big time too. And if you ever want, we'll run again. Any future plans with your car or are you leaving it as is for now?
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Originally Posted by NightmareTA
No problem man! Had a blast as always. Anytime were out racing is a good time lol. That extra 500 RPM on the shifts helped you out big time too. And if you ever want, we'll run again. Any future plans with your car or are you leaving it as is for now?
For now i will leave the car as is, but next season i will be going back to slowhawk for some trickflow 215 heads and 373 gears or 410.

I would like to do a daytime race next time if thats cool with you guys.


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