Ran a C5 vette, 5th gen ss, and 98 cobra last night
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I find this story to be BS... L99 or not, no header ls1 without a tune is going to pull past a l99 with the same mods without a the hit, then pull past 2+ cars and catch a C5 vette! Just saying, unless you have a mid 12 sec car I just dont see this happening considering both of those cars will run 12.7 or better with a higher trap speed then you with a few boltons. Just saying
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I find this story to be BS... L99 or not, no header ls1 without a tune is going to pull past a l99 with the same mods without a the hit, then pull past 2+ cars and catch a C5 vette! Just saying, unless you have a mid 12 sec car I just dont see this happening considering both of those cars will run 12.7 or better with a higher trap speed then you with a few boltons. Just saying
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Edit: does everyone think "full exhaust" means longtubes too? Cause if thats the case none of these cars have headers....They have a full exhaust.
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Autos and manuals both have their place. When I am just going to work, or going out for a liesurely drive I drive my Z28. It will eventually get a stall and bolt ons later on down the road when I can afford it but for now, its a nice fun DD. When I do get around to modding it it will be a bracket racing car, much easier to run consistent times in an auto. I have no problem banging gears, Im decent at it and yeah it's fun. If I want to go play around I drive my vette. Do I want to do it all the time? Absolutely not as I get older. Nothing sissy about driving an auto car. Sometimes its nice to just mash the gas and go.
Im not seeing the 5th gen losing this race, like so many have said. Then again anything can happen. Was it tuned? They are kind of dogs if the auto ones arent tuned. Even with the bolt ons listed the TQ management crap is crippling on those cars
Im not seeing the 5th gen losing this race, like so many have said. Then again anything can happen. Was it tuned? They are kind of dogs if the auto ones arent tuned. Even with the bolt ons listed the TQ management crap is crippling on those cars
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Autos and manuals both have their place. When I am just going to work, or going out for a liesurely drive I drive my Z28. It will eventually get a stall and bolt ons later on down the road when I can afford it but for now, its a nice fun DD. When I do get around to modding it it will be a bracket racing car, much easier to run consistent times in an auto. I have no problem banging gears, Im decent at it and yeah it's fun. If I want to go play around I drive my vette. Do I want to do it all the time? Absolutely not as I get older. Nothing sissy about driving an auto car. Sometimes its nice to just mash the gas and go.
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I agree for a daily an auto is nice, i dont really drive much so a manual isn't a big deal for a daily. Its just when i have to be driving around all day that it gets really annoying. I live in miami so its 90% city driving i do. I like your "eat ****" car though. lol.
I will be happy if I never see Miami ever again it is a PITA to drive down there. Although Jacksonville is almost as bad.
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I've seen VERY few hit 107, 108...definitely doubt that. 105ish is a better norm
Full exhaust = the entire routing of what gets the exhaust out of the cylinder and into the open air....so longtubes is included.
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The vette is about to get some surgery here soon; A good sized cam and some heads to match and I am swapping the rear out for a C6Z rear. Then I for sure wont want to drive it every day lol
I will be happy if I never see Miami ever again it is a PITA to drive down there. Although Jacksonville is almost as bad.
I will be happy if I never see Miami ever again it is a PITA to drive down there. Although Jacksonville is almost as bad.
lol just saw your location, yeah ive lived here all my life i live in hialeah. No one here can drive for ****, the roads are tiny, and around 5-6 its better to stay in and not deal with the traffic every where lol.
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I am jelly! I really want a c5, maybe after i finish up school ill hop into a vette. What heads and cam are you looking into?
lol just saw your location, yeah ive lived here all my life i live in hialeah. No one here can drive for ****, the roads are tiny, and around 5-6 its better to stay in and not deal with the traffic every where lol.
lol just saw your location, yeah ive lived here all my life i live in hialeah. No one here can drive for ****, the roads are tiny, and around 5-6 its better to stay in and not deal with the traffic every where lol.
I can see you pulling on the 5th gen camaro with it not having headers. Do you know if it was tuned?
And I'll def agree with what WSsick said, stalled autos are the ****, they are fun as hell to drive
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It was only a matter of time before this guy showed up.
Yet to come across one.
No one said it was "the full story" but you took my sentence out of context. I was refering to how usually manuals out trap autos, which usually makes it a faster car from a roll on the street.
Now if your referring to traction or whatever else than those are obvious factors.
I was just refering to everything being equal.
Pretty common where im from.
Holy **** your a wizard bro, you know what an exhaust is?!
An exhaust and a header are 2 completely different things.
People who say "full exhaust" are usually the people trying to down play there car. A header bolts up to the exhaust does not mean its an exhaust.
Thats like saying the TB is an intake because its bolted up to the intake, and together they are the main reason for air entering the engine. Herp derp. Strong logic.
Yet to come across one.
No one said it was "the full story" but you took my sentence out of context. I was refering to how usually manuals out trap autos, which usually makes it a faster car from a roll on the street.
Now if your referring to traction or whatever else than those are obvious factors.
I was just refering to everything being equal.
An exhaust and a header are 2 completely different things.
People who say "full exhaust" are usually the people trying to down play there car. A header bolts up to the exhaust does not mean its an exhaust.
Thats like saying the TB is an intake because its bolted up to the intake, and together they are the main reason for air entering the engine. Herp derp. Strong logic.
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It was only a matter of time before this guy showed up.
Yet to come across one.
No one said it was "the full story" but you took my sentence out of context. I was refering to how usually manuals out trap autos, which usually makes it a faster car from a roll on the street.
Now if your referring to traction or whatever else than those are obvious factors.
I was just refering to everything being equal.
Pretty common where im from.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUZbP...nmEdtBHFQxw_8Q
Holy **** your a wizard bro, you know what an exhaust is?!
An exhaust and a header are 2 completely different things.
People who say "full exhaust" are usually the people trying to down play there car. A header bolts up to the exhaust does not mean its an exhaust.
Thats like saying the TB is an intake because its bolted up to the intake, and together they are the main reason for air entering the engine. Herp derp. Strong logic.
Yet to come across one.
No one said it was "the full story" but you took my sentence out of context. I was refering to how usually manuals out trap autos, which usually makes it a faster car from a roll on the street.
Now if your referring to traction or whatever else than those are obvious factors.
I was just refering to everything being equal.
Pretty common where im from.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUZbP...nmEdtBHFQxw_8Q
Holy **** your a wizard bro, you know what an exhaust is?!
An exhaust and a header are 2 completely different things.
People who say "full exhaust" are usually the people trying to down play there car. A header bolts up to the exhaust does not mean its an exhaust.
Thats like saying the TB is an intake because its bolted up to the intake, and together they are the main reason for air entering the engine. Herp derp. Strong logic.
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Stupid argument, im from miami, hes from idk where. What people call stuff down here is going to be different from what they call **** over there. Its dumb, i know.
I'm getting a comp custom grind cam for it, and I am either going to get the stock heads ported, or go with some AFR's depending on how much $ I want to dump into it. I'm gonna buy a FAST intake here shortly too and do all the work at the same time and be done with it for a while.
I can see you pulling on the 5th gen camaro with it not having headers. Do you know if it was tuned?
And I'll def agree with what WSsick said, stalled autos are the ****, they are fun as hell to drive
I can see you pulling on the 5th gen camaro with it not having headers. Do you know if it was tuned?
And I'll def agree with what WSsick said, stalled autos are the ****, they are fun as hell to drive
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ummm headers are DEFINATELY part of an exhaust.. God damn it with this stupid forum logic. Enter a speed shop and try saying that. They will instantly label you as a tire kicking *** clown and no longer take you serious.
And FYI. My last car was a properly setup stalled auto. I would give stick cars the jump on the roll with the same, if not more, whp as me and chase them down and pass them. Theres ALOT more to a converter setup then just how hard your car launches...just saying.
And FYI. My last car was a properly setup stalled auto. I would give stick cars the jump on the roll with the same, if not more, whp as me and chase them down and pass them. Theres ALOT more to a converter setup then just how hard your car launches...just saying.
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How did I know that one or two threads would get you permabutthurt for any future threads?
Of course I'm going to show up in SR&K, it's been where pretty much 99% of my posts for the past couple years because I got tired of replying to "what cam" or what should my next mod be threads" ....like you happened to ask in this thread. It's ok, we've all been there though, including me.
Try to find one and report back.
Again, it doesn't.
Everything being equal, a properly setup stalled auto will beat a properly setup stick car car more often than not. Fact.
If it's so common, why did you only post 1 instance (which so happens to be of a car going 107, not 108)?
I just wanted to separate this part to show, again, how awesome you are in a debate.
Since this is all about semantics, yes, "an exhaust" is different than "a header" ( orheaders since we aren't talking 4bangers ).
However, "full exhaust" is different than "an exhaust." What are we talking about again? Oh yeah, full exhaust.
Excuse me for dumbing to down to such an obviously superior intellect, even though it's apparent it was needed.
No, it's not. If you were to say "full intake" then the TB would be included because you are speaking of the intake tract as a whole, opposed to "a throttle body" as a part.
It's really not that hard to understand.
Mine, yes. Yours, not so much.
Of course I'm going to show up in SR&K, it's been where pretty much 99% of my posts for the past couple years because I got tired of replying to "what cam" or what should my next mod be threads" ....like you happened to ask in this thread. It's ok, we've all been there though, including me.
Yet to come across one.
I was refering to how usually manuals out trap autos, which usually makes it a faster car from a roll on the street.
I was just referring to everything being equal.
Pretty common where im from.
Holy **** your a wizard bro, you know what an exhaust is?!
An exhaust and a header are 2 completely different things.
However, "full exhaust" is different than "an exhaust." What are we talking about again? Oh yeah, full exhaust.
Excuse me for dumbing to down to such an obviously superior intellect, even though it's apparent it was needed.
Thats like saying the TB is an intake because its bolted up to the intake, and together they are the main reason for air entering the engine.
It's really not that hard to understand.
Strong logic.
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I complimented you on your wins against a bunch of 13 and 14 second cars and you poke me in the eye. Well buddy I'd have to say
Playing video games in your mom's basement ain't a job and your probably to young to drink coffee. A lot of talk from a guy with a car that may run low 13's and traps 108 with your mod list. Throw a cam heads and some squeeze on that heap and see how well you shift a fast revving car. LOL
Playing video games in your mom's basement ain't a job and your probably to young to drink coffee. A lot of talk from a guy with a car that may run low 13's and traps 108 with your mod list. Throw a cam heads and some squeeze on that heap and see how well you shift a fast revving car. LOL
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ummm headers are DEFINATELY part of an exhaust.. God damn it with this stupid forum logic. Enter a speed shop and try saying that. They will instantly label you as a tire kicking *** clown and no longer take you serious.
And FYI. My last car was a properly setup stalled auto. I would give stick cars the jump on the roll with the same whp as me and chase them down and pass them. Theres ALOT more to a converter setup then just how hard your car launches...just saying.
And FYI. My last car was a properly setup stalled auto. I would give stick cars the jump on the roll with the same whp as me and chase them down and pass them. Theres ALOT more to a converter setup then just how hard your car launches...just saying.
lololoololololol They will not take me serious because i say a header is a header and an exhaust is an exhaust. Okay, seems legit.
Okay. Thanks for your input.
How did I know that one or two threads would get you permabutthurt for any future threads?
Of course I'm going to show up in SR&K, it's been where pretty much 99% of my posts for the past couple years because I got tired of replying to "what cam" or what should my next mod be threads" ....like you happened to ask in this thread. It's ok, we've all been there though, including me.
Of course I'm going to show up in SR&K, it's been where pretty much 99% of my posts for the past couple years because I got tired of replying to "what cam" or what should my next mod be threads" ....like you happened to ask in this thread. It's ok, we've all been there though, including me.
Okay.
Then i guess we should just throw trap speeds out the window, since apparently they are irrelevant. Again strong logic.
Since this is all about semantics, yes, "an exhaust" is different than "a header" ( orheaders since we aren't talking 4bangers ).
However, "full exhaust" is different than "an exhaust." What are we talking about again? Oh yeah, full exhaust.
Excuse me for dumbing to down to such an obviously superior intellect, even though it's apparent it was needed.
However, "full exhaust" is different than "an exhaust." What are we talking about again? Oh yeah, full exhaust.
Excuse me for dumbing to down to such an obviously superior intellect, even though it's apparent it was needed.
Shesh this guy must have built several 130+ mph cars with that knowledge of what a full exhaust is!
Sarcasm is not your strong point.
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