99 Cam Only LS1 T/A vs Almost stock '11 5.0
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Why not chat with a couple folks up here in the great white north at Champion Motors to see if small cams work?! You are starting to get under my skin here lol...I didn't want to post results until my sts setup is complete, but you are making that hard.
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You sir need to learn. It's just that simple. I could wax your *** if you come out with that cam and not set up properly. I don't need to have slips to prove it either, since anyone in your area with a properly setup stalled 224 car with stickies will do the same. I'm sure there's one in an area near you. I'm just being real here, and your going with internet hype here apparently, and a "one in 10" cars philosophy. There are some NASTY *** street cars that actually run right on the street for dd'ing, and would still wax a lot of trex dudes. Get over it, it happens all the time! An optimal 1320 car isn't a an optimal street car, why is that so hard?
edit: no one is saying that larger cams don't work, but what I'm saying is that I see more big cammed cars get put to shame by smaller cammed cars. It's all in the setup, not the cam....
edit: no one is saying that larger cams don't work, but what I'm saying is that I see more big cammed cars get put to shame by smaller cammed cars. It's all in the setup, not the cam....
Just joking. But seriously, I bet my MS4 car would put a beating on your 224 cam car on the street from a roll or a dig. Those cams make more power - period. They run the quickest et's and traps. Why is that so hard to grasp?
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There are some slow *** cammed ls1's in this thread. Come on guys work on your combo. There are bolt-on ls1 that are out running you. example 1.... I went 12.6 @ 112.8 with some pretty minor bolt-ons. example 2...... We got my buddies ws6 to go 12.9@110 with just free mods and with baby seats in the back. Both cars on normal tires, no dr's. These #'s are from all the way back in 01.
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There are some slow *** cammed ls1's in this thread. Come on guys work on your combo. There are bolt-on ls1 that are out running you. example 1.... I went 12.6 @ 112.8 with some pretty minor bolt-ons. example 2...... We got my buddies ws6 to go 12.9@110 with just free mods and with baby seats in the back. Both cars on normal tires, no dr's. These #'s are from all the way back in 01.
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I did 12.3@110 with not even fulll bolt-ons. That was with stock tb, maf, pulley and mailorder tune and a 1.8 60ft not to mention full weight. I think with the rest of the bolt-ons I have now and a better 60ft I could have went for 11's. Would have been easy 11 sec pass if I would have with with a 4k stall and some mt's.
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I did 12.3@110 with not even fulll bolt-ons. That was with stock tb, maf, pulley and mailorder tune and a 1.8 60ft not to mention full weight. I think with the rest of the bolt-ons I have now and a better 60ft I could have went for 11's. Would have been easy 11 sec pass if I would have with with a 4k stall and some mt's.
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Boy you sure don't make a good *** hole. Everytime you try to sound like one you just end up coming off like a dumbass.
And I never said anything about a MAF meter. Only a dumbass would think a MAF would gain anything on a bolt-on cammed LS.
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holy christ... that car only traps 109... how??? Is that in like 8500 da?
And the MS4 cam does perform great....in a stick car. I had it in my stalled auto. I had a 3500 converter...too small. Car fell on its face every shift and i reved it 7100. The circle D 4000 i put in on the other hand... made it be a WOT monster. Driveability suffered. I hated the spongeyness of the converter. If i had a stick car, I wouldnt be affraid to get aggressive with it because of the extra under drive gear allowing you to close up the shift extensions without use of a spongey converter. If i had an MS4 cam only setup. Id be spinning it 7100-7200 with 4.30s in the back. That setup works. An ms4 cammed car reving 6700-6800 with 3.42s in the back... is usually the car that gets upset by the smalled cammed guys. If youre affraid to turn the stock bottom end over 7k.... dont buy a big cam. However mine was forged so i was rev happy
And the MS4 cam does perform great....in a stick car. I had it in my stalled auto. I had a 3500 converter...too small. Car fell on its face every shift and i reved it 7100. The circle D 4000 i put in on the other hand... made it be a WOT monster. Driveability suffered. I hated the spongeyness of the converter. If i had a stick car, I wouldnt be affraid to get aggressive with it because of the extra under drive gear allowing you to close up the shift extensions without use of a spongey converter. If i had an MS4 cam only setup. Id be spinning it 7100-7200 with 4.30s in the back. That setup works. An ms4 cammed car reving 6700-6800 with 3.42s in the back... is usually the car that gets upset by the smalled cammed guys. If youre affraid to turn the stock bottom end over 7k.... dont buy a big cam. However mine was forged so i was rev happy
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I'm clueless how much the bottom end has on it, it was ragged on and supposedly swapped for a lower mileage drivetrain, although I highly doubt that! I keep it at 6500 just to be safe, once I start collecting new engine parts I'll have my tuner kick the limiter up to 7k or or so and see what breaks first!
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I'm clueless how much the bottom end has on it, it was ragged on and supposedly swapped for a lower mileage drivetrain, although I highly doubt that! I keep it at 6500 just to be safe, once I start collecting new engine parts I'll have my tuner kick the limiter up to 7k or or so and see what breaks first!
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I'm clueless how much the bottom end has on it, it was ragged on and supposedly swapped for a lower mileage drivetrain, although I highly doubt that! I keep it at 6500 just to be safe, once I start collecting new engine parts I'll have my tuner kick the limiter up to 7k or or so and see what breaks first!
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I don't need to have slips to prove it either, since anyone in your area with a properly setup stalled 224 car with stickies will do the same. I'm sure there's one in an area near you. I'm just being real here, and your going with internet hype here apparently, and a "one in 10" cars philosophy.
Heres a pic of his car.
No internet hype, just results and facts. The top 20 list or whatever is all big cam cars. Again, No hype just facts. I dont think you know what hype is.
All im saying is show me one small cam car in the cam only thread, that's all.
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Actually I was factoring your 2400+ or so DA you mentioned in a previous post. Basically converting it to sea level times.
Boy you sure don't make a good *** hole. Everytime you try to sound like one you just end up coming off like a dumbass.
And I never said anything about a MAF meter. Only a dumbass would think a MAF would gain anything on a bolt-on cammed LS.
Boy you sure don't make a good *** hole. Everytime you try to sound like one you just end up coming off like a dumbass.
And I never said anything about a MAF meter. Only a dumbass would think a MAF would gain anything on a bolt-on cammed LS.