06 GTO vs 01 Cobra
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#23
If you are going to 160 and he is a new rider, you have a good chance pulling back after 130 or so.
From 60 with an experienced rider I'm not sure if you would run it down by 160 or not, it would be worth watching but I would lean towards the bike pretty heavily if I had to choose.
A 40 roll and it would be game over.. The bike would top out before you had time to come around it. With a bad rider, you would have a chance still, rider matters tremendously on a bike. It would take a complete squid to F up a 40/1st gear roll with a sub 125mph car.
Do keep in mind though... It takes a 130mph car to run with, not necessarily beat, a 123-124mph (average rider with modern 600) bike in a normal run. 1st/2nd gear on them, even 600s, are absolutely disgusting.
#24
That should be a mid 120 bike.... At the very worse him starting in 2nd gear.
If you are going to 160 and he is a new rider, you have a good chance pulling back after 130 or so.
From 60 with an experienced rider I'm not sure if you would run it down by 160 or not, it would be worth watching but I would lean towards the bike pretty heavily if I had to choose.
A 40 roll and it would be game over.. The bike would top out before you had time to come around it. With a bad rider, you would have a chance still, rider matters tremendously on a bike. It would take a complete squid to F up a 40/1st gear roll with a sub 125mph car.
Do keep in mind though... It takes a 130mph car to run with, not necessarily beat, a 123-124mph (average rider with modern 600) bike in a normal run. 1st/2nd gear on them, even 600s, are absolutely disgusting.
If you are going to 160 and he is a new rider, you have a good chance pulling back after 130 or so.
From 60 with an experienced rider I'm not sure if you would run it down by 160 or not, it would be worth watching but I would lean towards the bike pretty heavily if I had to choose.
A 40 roll and it would be game over.. The bike would top out before you had time to come around it. With a bad rider, you would have a chance still, rider matters tremendously on a bike. It would take a complete squid to F up a 40/1st gear roll with a sub 125mph car.
Do keep in mind though... It takes a 130mph car to run with, not necessarily beat, a 123-124mph (average rider with modern 600) bike in a normal run. 1st/2nd gear on them, even 600s, are absolutely disgusting.
#26
Nice....I wouldn't even bother to race a bike unless it's a 250 or Harley. Otherwise their just too fast. I do love ******* with the douche Harley riders though.
Last edited by BrntWS6; 05-21-2013 at 10:44 AM.
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#29
3725 is for an auto GTO with 18's and full options. A manual trans car with the factory 17's is roughly 3650, and if you have longtubes and an aftermarket exhaust, you'll drop even more. I'd say theres less than a 200 lbs difference...maybe 175 tops. I'd weigh your car to get an idea. Guarantee you'll be surprised!
BTW... nice kill OP
#30
That cobra is probably high 3300s depending on gas. So I would say there is about 200lbs of difference. Those n/a cobras are turds just as a gto can be a turd. Op has a strong running bolton gto and the cobra is a slapped together, under geared, untuned turd.
#31
Hint: putting 4.56's or 4.30's or 4.10's or 4.88's or whatever shorter gear would not have helped the cobra in that race at all. Not even a little bit. Granted the stock 3.27's suck but 3.73's is plenty of gear for that car.
#32
OK right now I'm at 3575 with 1/16-1/8 tank of gas. I weighed 180lbs that day and my passenger was 200 (I'm being generous). That puts me at 3955 for this race.
The Cobras weight 3430 stock, his exhaust cut what? Maybe 60lbs? Lets be generous and say 80lbs. So he's at 3350. He weighed 150lbs, Passenger was about 160. They are at 3660. Roughly 300lbs.
The Cobras weight 3430 stock, his exhaust cut what? Maybe 60lbs? Lets be generous and say 80lbs. So he's at 3350. He weighed 150lbs, Passenger was about 160. They are at 3660. Roughly 300lbs.
#33
Keep in mind all factory curb weights are with a full tank of gas... GTOs have 18.5 gallon tanks. So for a GTO, there is more weight to be taken out in the tank then a mustang. I had my GTO down to 3260 without a passenger seat and 3325 with the passenger seat.
#34
I told him delete the spare too, waste of weight.
I agree that his setup is FUBAR. This is the reason he did so poorly. The flowmasters and handheld tuner, what the **** man... He told me he thought he was making 315whp I told him he's not and he might make 320 with a proper exhaust and good tune and every little bolt-on imaginable. More gear probably wouldn't have helped him from a 40 or 60, just make him shift more.
#36
I agree but like I said, I wasn't expecting him to lose that bad. Fixing the crap exhaust and crap tune would have helped him alot.
#37
yeah i agree! Those turdmaster mufflers are terrible. My car had one when i bought it and it made more noise in the cabin then outside. Car sounded stock at WOT. Id love to see a re run.
#38
Hint: Rpm is rpm and it would run better. No 3.73s are not plenty of gear for a bolton 01 cobra.
#39
We both filled up immediately after the race. I usually put in 16.5 gallons. I didn't see what he did, but they have a 15.7 gallon tank I think. Gas makes a difference but 2-3 galllons doesn't weigh too much to make a difference.
I told him delete the spare too, waste of weight.
I agree that his setup is FUBAR. This is the reason he did so poorly. The flowmasters and handheld tuner, what the **** man... He told me he thought he was making 315whp I told him he's not and he might make 320 with a proper exhaust and good tune and every little bolt-on imaginable. More gear probably wouldn't have helped him from a 40 or 60, just make him shift more.
I told him delete the spare too, waste of weight.
I agree that his setup is FUBAR. This is the reason he did so poorly. The flowmasters and handheld tuner, what the **** man... He told me he thought he was making 315whp I told him he's not and he might make 320 with a proper exhaust and good tune and every little bolt-on imaginable. More gear probably wouldn't have helped him from a 40 or 60, just make him shift more.
His setup blows honestly lol. With the right boltons the car could make decent power and give you a run for your money. Your car runs good for a gto though no doubt He is going to shift the same amount of times. Regardless if it is 3.73s or 4.30s from a 40 and a 60.