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Old 07-28-2013, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by US_Army_Z28
And of course autodipshit in for the troll
How is that trolling? He made a statement based on opinion and I made one based on fact.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Yea....a 2v LS


2+3v's are poop

4v's to really.
I was comparing a 3v vs a 2v. The cylinder heads available in the after market are just much better designed and you can actually make more power. Example: Foxlake ported trickflow heads for a 2v. Thats a 300cfm cylinder head. Going to that cylinder head from a stock 145cfm cylinder head.... lots of power. If i had money laying around, id love to build a max effort 2v motor just to say i did. But unfortunately i dont have that money.... hell if i did, id build one of every type of motor. Hell id love to build a 1000hp NA LSX platform...

Sucks being a broke ***...
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Says the guy with a ******* Boss 302.
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lol why do you think im a broke ***?
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Could have had 2, maybe 3 max effort n/a 2v's for the cost of that boss is all I'm saying.

You ballin', quit being humble.
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If he keeps running that Chinese trans he's gonna be a broke ***
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Originally Posted by evangto87
I was comparing a 3v vs a 2v. The cylinder heads available in the after market are just much better designed and you can actually make more power. Example: Foxlake ported trickflow heads for a 2v. Thats a 300cfm cylinder head. Going to that cylinder head from a stock 145cfm cylinder head.... lots of power. If i had money laying around, id love to build a max effort 2v motor just to say i did. But unfortunately i dont have that money.... hell if i did, id build one of every type of motor. Hell id love to build a 1000hp NA LSX platform...

Sucks being a broke ***...
I hope it's not like the coyote head you posted that flowed 3xx @ .650 or .600 lift then not being able to buy cams to get there. That makes it irrelevant. That's kinda the draw back of a ohc design, unless you make major changes the lift just ain't there. On top of that it would be a **** street engine. 300cfm (if it can even get there @ lift) on a 4.6 with fixed cams you'd have to turn it 9k rpm and bottom end power would suck. Of course the bottom would have to be built to handle that rpm. All in all not a great scenario for a street car.
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Just curious, do you really need over .500 lift if you have two valves that open to .500 lift (Intake and Exhaust) and the cylinder head flows great at .500 and below?
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Originally Posted by Heater
Just curious, do you really need over .500 lift if you have two valves that open to .500 lift (Intake and Exhaust) and the cylinder head flows great at .500 and below?
A quick answer to that......yes. If the head flow is rated @ .600 or .650........and you can only get to .500. Well I'm sure you can do the math on that.
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So whats the fastest stock cube 4v?
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Originally Posted by OneSlowV
So whats the fastest stock cube 4v?
6.03 @ 24x
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I believe we are talking n/a dipshit. Keep the race cars out of it. Bolt-on on **** not built ****......idiot. Why don't yours go that fast??? God your dumb.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
A quick answer to that......yes. If the head flow is rated @ .600 or .650........and you can only get to .500. Well I'm sure you can do the math on that.



Yeah, I know what you are saying, but what I am saying is how much would you really gain by the valve opening another .100 if the cylinder head flows great at lower lift numbers?
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Originally Posted by Heater
Yeah, I know what you are saying, but what I am saying is how much would you really gain by the valve opening another .100 if the cylinder head flows great at lower lift numbers?

HUGE amounts!!!!

it's not just peak, it's flow under peak. if you lift to .650 instead of .500, it's not just the peak flow difference, it's all the extra time the valve spends open from .500-.650. and if the heads flow more at .650 than .500, that is a lot of extra flow and air.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I believe we are talking n/a dipshit. Keep the race cars out of it. Bolt-on on **** not built ****......idiot. Why don't yours go that fast??? God your dumb.
Whyumad? Because The 5.4 has been 8s nowurealmad.
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Originally Posted by Heater
Yeah, I know what you are saying, but what I am saying is how much would you really gain by the valve opening another .100 if the cylinder head flows great at lower lift numbers?
Originally Posted by big hammer
HUGE amounts!!!!

it's not just peak, it's flow under peak. if you lift to .650 instead of .500, it's not just the peak flow difference, it's all the extra time the valve spends open from .500-.650. and if the heads flow more at .650 than .500, that is a lot of extra flow and air.
This Heater.
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Whyumad? Because The 5.4 has been 8s nowurealmad.
Why would I be mad?? Your builds have proved what a pos a mod motor is. You should be mad that you are single handedly prove the fast guys how slow they are.
Old 07-29-2013, 11:17 AM
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Just because you cant get a shelf cam with high lift, doesnt mean you cant have one made.
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Had a cat back exhaust 75 shot 3v stang get beat by my headers,lid,3.90gear car. that was a few years ago. ENOUGH SAID
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a local friend of mine just had a H/C/Nitrous 3v built. Car has full length ARH headers, full 3 inch catless exhaust, ported heads, pretty decent sized cams, and all the intake work. He made 15whp less then me with him spraying a 125 shot.
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Yeah the 3v are weak...the new 5.0's on the other hand I definitely respect. when it comes to the 3v cars boost or go home. I've got a friend with an 07 GT withbasic boltons and a procharger at 8 psi makes 442rwhp.


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