why87

Used to be a cammed 3v that ran around here that I never got the chance to run. Figured that might have been a dead nuts race.

automach1

So you are saying a pos mod motor can still outrun lsx cars hmmm Just more proof of 4v dominance.

sonicblue_s197

The 3 valves do run pretty good you just gotta have it setup right, the downfall is the weight of these cars their pretty heavy so gears are a must. My 3 valve ran pretty good on my old setup with a d1 procharger, full exaust, 4.10's made 525 rwhp

R6cowboy

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Nice kill OP!!

I hope you're smart enough to never actually attempt that...lol

HioSSilver

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I think it takes more than that. You have to put longer valves in them or some **** and change the whole geometry. Not as simple as getting a custom cam. These are not ls engines.
......just wait for it. It won't take long.
where do you come up with this ****? Where is Jay when we need him to someone.
He's not. He be the only person to put 2v heads on a boss.....lol

automach1

You said it derp.

Heater

I'm not big on Mod motors like I am push rod engines, I know that John Mihovetz has said the 4V stuff didn't like cams with much over .500 lift, but he also said that the 4V heads didn't need big lift cams to make power.

I know the new 5.0 has a different set up with it's heads and valve train, so it might be different.

HioSSilver

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yea.....just 60lbs of boost. Do you really think Mihovetz stuff has anything to do with normal bolt-on cammed ****? Don't be naive. If it did modulars would actually be impressive. We would all be driving them and even bad drivers/wrenches would be in the 8's.

The 5.0 is a different animal. It's a good engine. 5 liters seem to be the magic minimum displacement for getting good power out of a v8.

automach1

What is normal bolton cammed lol? Yea because the 4.6 4v that has been making 1000+ for years doesn't make good power You do realize however that Mihovetz retains stock cubes, heads, and block and is still running those times hmmm. Wait I know modulars still suck Lsx is a great platform however we all know you are the dense minded camero owner. Me want camero go real fast cam only. Modulars gay because dey are to complicated for my 7th grade education

HioSSilver

iTrader: (8)

This coming from someone with a superchArged modular that can't get out of the 12's means nothing.

Besides that you don't have a clue to what was done to keep a engine like that together.

automach1

It takes a lot of extra attention at that level as any other car would derp. You are still hung up on a outdated timeslip. Like I said before if you were closer. I would show you just how slow this 12sec modular is

HioSSilver

iTrader: (8)

No.... you don't wish I was closer.

Heater

This attitude is why I don't bother trying to have technical discussion on this website. I was trying to have a semi technical discussion and you can't stop yourself from being condescending.

As a matter of fact a lot of Mihovetz's ideas have made it into the production 5.0...

sawblade99Z

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For what it's worth, my lid/muffler 2.73 car took an auto 3V from both a 30-90 roll and a dig to ~100 last night. Kid said it had a cai, catback, and tune. Pulled him pretty hard on the roll and it would have just kept getting worse had he not let out. And on the dig I didn't touch the gas until I saw his hood lift. Caught, passed, and put a car on him before he quit.

why87

Yeah I've never personally seen one that flew with minimal mods. Even the supercharged ones I've seen weren't that impressive.

automach1

Sure buddy

HioSSilver

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Don't get your panties in a bunch so easily. Was what I said not true? Don't get offended that your brand needs significantly more boost to get to comparable power levels. Neither of us designed them. We have to play the cards dealt to us.

The bold statement alone should let you know how much he changes the 4.6 to get it where he needs it. Like I said.......All you modular guys should be running atleast 8's ......even the slow stupid ones like autotard. Should be busting 9's n/a easily on stock bottoms. But no.....instead even Heater posts a gutted Mach that runs high 11's with cams and you guys think that is impressive.

automach1

I want a Camero vroom vroom.

Raoul-Duke

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Derp, I want a 3 ton crying baby sounding 900hp 12 sec car. Whine Whine


Just dropping in to say hello.

automach1

So you want a zl1 camero?