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Old 08-07-2013 | 06:59 PM
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Pretty dumb 2v vs 4v dual overhead cams vs 1. Fi vs Na The debate could go on forever.
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Originally Posted by WTF?
This one is awesome, it's my uncle and his fire breathing, Get R Dun, nitrous injected, stroked to the max, LT juan, VS SVT's finest, Tri-aspirated, boosted, and bottle blown, snake of fury.

Easy money says that the stalled auto with gears to boot, takes it in the first 60, but maybe just maybe the SSSSSSSSSSSnake, can stick that *** to the tune of a 1.5-6 sixty and climb right up Juans ***.........itz gonna be a doozy..
Well brother, there's nothing easy about it. I cost me a day of shamin' and his lodgin' to get the race. Then there's the tune… (You tried to find a tune for an LTx lately? Ya might as well be looking for a free kidney).

I've tangled with the Cobra many times… They're mighty quick and back in the early days, they handed me my butt with no apparent effort. As we came along, they became less a threat, but with the right driver, they can definitely bring a tight pucker.

There's something to be said for the 'all-day, anytime induction'. I've considered it many times, come close a few, but just never found the right buy at the right time.

But I agree, it is going to be a blast.
Old 08-07-2013 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by OneSlowV
Pretty dumb 2v vs 4v dual overhead cams vs 1. Fi vs Na The debate could go on forever.
Actually, I think we hit that and passed it on page 17.
Old 08-07-2013 | 07:07 PM
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**** lol i think i last posted on 14 or so
Old 08-07-2013 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by snake95
You didn't see my last post did you? sad day when the bowtie princesses need 115 more cubes plus a 200 shot to outrun a lil ol' 281.
That's not a shot at you, OVA, HiO just picks and chooses what Ford things he wants to cry about when the GM car has just as much ammo.
Oh I understand. But I would also say that referring to the blown/Nos SVT as a 281, is something beyond a stretch.

I have no idea what the displacement value of the blower is, but ya add that to the CI and the shot and homey's pushing a serious contender.

And hey, there's a small chance that it will hold together for a few runs. I'm going to work on the premise that it will… and pray that mine does the same.
Old 08-07-2013 | 07:11 PM
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I already told you Terminators are weak motors they can't hold much
Old 08-07-2013 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by OVA1
Oh I understand. But I would also say that referring to the blown/Nos SVT as a 281, is something beyond a stretch.

I have no idea what the displacement value of the blower is, but ya add that to the CI and the shot and homey's pushing a serious contender.

And hey, there's a small chance that it will hold together for a few runs. I'm going to work on the premise that it will… and pray that mine does the same.
HiO calls his Z06 engine swap a stock replacement, so it's all good. That's the kinda **** he says. Both your and Lawhead's cars are faster than anything I drive so I'm just ready to see the race vid on here next month
Old 08-07-2013 | 07:20 PM
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I already told you Terminators are weak motors they can't hold much
Well, my instincts tell me that we're going to find out how much they will take, or won't take… depending on one's perspective, I guess.
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They blow up at around 500

Ford put junk forged internals in them = weak
Old 08-07-2013 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
You are good at digging up the dirt there pickup !! since you know all that you very well know I've had the blower ON hand, and nitrous going on the car.....But you can leave all that out

The race will tell now wont it ?
Wasn't much digging...there was a link to svt in this thread and you posted your times and setup on svt...didn't exactly take a CSI team. My point is there are a lot of threads on tech where people are quick to rag on someone's times...when they haven't run that fast themselves. You're giving him crap about his times based on what yours "will run" in the future.
Old 08-07-2013 | 07:37 PM
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And you've gone with what his "old set up" ran

What's the difference in my claims and yours .....
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
And you've gone with what his "old set up" ran

What's the difference in my claims and yours .....
I'm just spit balling here, but off the top of my head, the difference would be that my builds and the subsequent times have actually happened, while your's have not.

Now I could be WAY off base there, given the nature of popular whimsy and all, but I really feel like to stuck that one!
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So your 396 has gone what your 350 did is what you're saying

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Uncle, just so happens I have a COMPLETE vortech Si unit in stock for a LTjuan. It made 10lbs on my trick flow headed 383, that I also still have sitting in the shop. PM if interested, cause LT1 stuff is headed the way of the dinosaur, and I wouldn't mind unloading.
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
So your 396 has gone what your 350 did is what you're saying
Yeah… my NA 350 was faster than the Blown SVT you posted up. That's true. Of course I added a tiny little 75 shot and it was a LOT faster than that SVT… So I'm not sure that's a fair comparison. Because the 396 is designed for a fraction more.

But, you could be right and this despite the trend you've been on, at least since I've known of ya.
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So your 396 hasn't ran as fast as your 350

Just checking
Old 08-07-2013 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by OneSlowV
I hope so this is like a Automach1 vs HioSSilver match up lol.
lol
Originally Posted by snake95
You didn't see my last post did you? sad day when the bowtie princesses need 115 more cubes plus a 200 shot to outrun a lil ol' 281.
That's not a shot at you, OVA, HiO just picks and chooses what Ford things he wants to cry about when the GM car has just as much ammo.
No I didn't see it. I don't "cry" about the ford stuff. I spit the truth and you guys cry. Remember I own both.


Originally Posted by OVA1
Oh I understand. But I would also say that referring to the blown/Nos SVT as a 281, is something beyond a stretch.

I have no idea what the displacement value of the blower is, but ya add that to the CI and the shot and homey's pushing a serious contender.

And hey, there's a small chance that it will hold together for a few runs. I'm going to work on the premise that it will… and pray that mine does the same.
the blower has 112ci of displacement. 112+281= 393
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I already told you Terminators are weak motors they can't hold much
They are not great to say the least. Better than other ford ****???? Yes, but their other **** is pretty bad.
Originally Posted by snake95
HiO calls his Z06 engine swap a stock replacement, so it's all good. That's the kinda **** he says. Both your and Lawhead's cars are faster than anything I drive so I'm just ready to see the race vid on here next month
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
They blow up at around 500

Ford put junk forged internals in them = weak
Mine blew up at less, wasn't mine then though but non the less it's what happened . Better make sure that tune is so safe it hardly runs. Don't do back to back runs w/o cool downs either. They'll blow up on about run #4. This is just part of the **** ford guys don't always tell ya. There's a list of 70+ that blew up on svt.......they closed the list in 07 or 09 I forget. I know of 4 local ones that blew up last year.
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Originally Posted by WTF?
Uncle, just so happens I have a COMPLETE vortech Si unit in stock for a LTjuan. It made 10lbs on my trick flow headed 383, that I also still have sitting in the shop. PM if interested, cause LT1 stuff is headed the way of the dinosaur, and I wouldn't mind unloading.
Yeah… I sorta went with a high compression set up… So can't use it at the moment. But I am seriously thinking about putting my old motor in the Miata.

So if you're not in a hurry I may look ya up in a few months when the shop temperatures gets down to Dante's 2nd or 3rd level of hell temps.

THAT would be a STUPID-NASTY set up.

Heck, ya never know, it might even give a Cobra a run for its money.

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Oh Man! Can you imagine having to come in here and report that you were taken down by a Miata?

LOL! Every time that notion flitters through my head, I get a stirring in and around my loins…
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
the blower has 112ci of displacement. 112+281= 393
Plus the 150hp worth of juice… Serious displacement. As long as it keeps the uglies inside, of course.
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LOL......I have two, yep that's right two 383 lt1's in the shop, one blown, and one nitrous. They both are sitting and have been for a few years now. Also have a t-56 complete setup including flywheel. Mallory 685 box to pull timing for the giggle, you say? Yep, got that too. See, I am also "in the know" with the ol' iron. My 91 rx7 was once a nitrous snorting, 6speed ripping cold a/c blowing street bruiser, then I went all dumbass on myself and turned into a semi-boring as fawk racetype car. BIG MISTAKE.


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