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Old 09-23-2013, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by automach1
At the time of the vid I believe it is stock cubes or close to it. The car has been faster. Do some research if you want more info on it.



A good running full bolt on mach will go 113+ but yes most will go ~110.



Yea if the car was light enough it could but I said nothing about a bolton combo going 11s.
LOL....now we're getting somewhere. So you admit a full bolt-on mach will get thrashed by a full bolt-on ls1. Remember notch's went 116+.....not full bolt-on
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Here's the car in the video that autodouche posted.

http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=295405

The damn thing had a 2700# race weight. Lol
**** I bet my ls6 would run that in a full drag car and at 2700lb......hel it would out run that. That's over 500lb lighter than my last time out.

bolt on ls6>full built racing 2v
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If you're so ''informed'' about NA 4.6 2v's, then why couldn't your dumb *** get a BLOWN 5.4 out of the 12's?
lol.....

I think I've said the same.
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You can consider me as a "Ferd" guy

and I don't defend a 2V.....

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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
LOL....now we're getting somewhere. So you admit a full bolt-on mach will get thrashed by a full bolt-on ls1. Remember notch's went 116+.....not full bolt-on

Not full weight either derp. With weight reduction they can go 118+

**** I bet my ls6 would run that in a full drag car and at 2700lb......hel it would out run that. That's over 500lb lighter than my last time out.

Lol so you think your motor swaped ls6 setup is faster then the texas speed h/c racecar now? bahahaha wow

bolt on ls6>full built racing 2v

Wrong

lol.....

I think I've said the same.
Hio being a derp no wai.
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Originally Posted by automach1
What reality is that? Tell me how many 9sec h/c n/a ls1 cars have you seen in person? The 2v was in the the 9s years ago as well. The h/c ls record car is just as light and is just as much of a racecar. A lot of compression RG etc... No need to call you a derp as you did to insult me first. I am just stating facts idc what car they own. Just because they had a 2v doesn't mean they knew what to do with it Oh and as far as money is concerned. You are right Texas speeds h/c ls1 record car could be duplicated for cheap
Wrong, TS car weighed 3200 for record attempt, a full 500lbs heavier than your Jesus Saviour 2v you keep bringing up. Wish I went to your 2V church and drank the wine, must taste delicious.

So Texas Speed spent more on an off the shelf cam and heads than your precious 2V's did with drastic weight reduction - PROOF??
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
You can consider me a "Ferd" guy

and I don't defend a 2V.....
Most cobra owners don't.
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Funny how n/a 4v's trap what your charged/modded 5.4 on drag wheel traps.........hmmmm. Who the hell is gonna believe any thing you say?.....no one.......not even the ford sites believe you. That's why got banned.....lmao
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Originally Posted by NW-99SS
Wrong, TS car weighed 3200 for record attempt, a full 500lbs heavier than your Jesus Saviour 2v you keep bringing up. Wish I went to your 2V church and drank the wine, must taste delicious.

So Texas Speed spent more on an off the shelf cam and heads than your precious 2V's did with drastic weight reduction - PROOF??
No it didn't it was 2800-29xx raceweight lol Yea you are right just off the shelf stuff and bam 9sec h/c ls1 bahahahaha

'98 Z28 Camaro (346); TH200; 5900 stall; H/C; 2858lbs; 2008

Just your typical street car however the 2v is a racecar lol.

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You'll never see me argue an F-body vs a GT LoL

and Money wise an F-body vs a Cobra is even pretty tough to keep up after the starting cost LoL
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Autotroll calling me a nuthugger - simple ironic.

Please research how many times I have brought up the TS record in posts anywhere on the internet, then post how many times you have posted the same 2V and compare...

And you got me on the weight, I concede, only 150lbs heavier than the 2V (which impressed me BTW).

This doesn't seem pricey to replicate though:

Texas Speed & Performance shattered the heads/cam stock bottom-end record at the NMCA LSX Shootout at the Memphis Motorsports Park in October 2008.

Mods:
- Precision Race Components 215 Fully CNC Ported Cylinder Heads
- Magic Stick 4 Camshaft
- F.A.S.T. 92mm Ported Intake
- P.T.M. 95mm Throttle Body
- Texas Speed 100mm MAF
- 1 7/8" KOOKS Headers
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Funny how n/a 4v's trap what your charged/modded 5.4 on drag wheel traps.........hmmmm. Who the hell is gonna believe any thing you say?.....no one.......not even the ford sites believe you. That's why got banned.....lmao
I went 112 with mild boltons at ~3500lbs in a n/a 4v. Yea let's not forget the weight difference and the fact the heaton is junk A Ford site with a derp mod of course I will get banned. He couldn't handle the truth just like you can't. That's why they got rid of his punk ***
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Originally Posted by NW-99SS
Autotroll calling me a nuthugger - simple ironic.

Please research how many times I have brought up the TS record in posts anywhere on the internet, then post how many times you have posted the same 2V and compare...
You are a nuthugger if you think it was simple to get a h/c ls to run that number. I am not going to bs anybody about the 2v it takes money, time, and skill to run that number.
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lol...they called bs on you goin 112......for a reason. It was bs with your mods. So now the blower actually slows you down......be a man.......take it off......you don't need it.......5.4's run 9's n/a.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
lol...they called bs on you goin 112......for a reason. It was bs with your mods. So now the blower actually slows you down......be a man.......take it off......you don't need it.......5.4's run 9's n/a.
People call bs on notches old car as well. So it must not be true If I had the money I would love to throw a n/a 5.4 setup in a light fox
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no they don't.....slips and vids to proof it


Redfire tried to....he's was the only one.......and you see what happened to him.


So you whine about my weight but yet would like to put a 5.4 in a light fox.......oohhh the irony
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Originally Posted by automach1
You are a nuthugger if you think it was simple to get a h/c ls to run that number. I am not going to bs anybody about the 2v it takes money, time, and skill to run that number.
You're helping me make my point and not realizing it. Dollar for dollar, mod for mod, it's cheaper to go quicker in an LS1 than a 2V. Do I hate 2V's, nope, I get that people like different cars. Just stating the facts.

Do 2 cams cost more than 1?? Do 4 cams cost more than 1?? Only a tiny piece of the puzzle. Trolling fail - nuthuggers are those that resort to the same example of 1 car, post after post, thread after thread. Please provide proof of me nuthugging, or shall I do a 0.001 sec search and list the 500+ posts you have made about this 2V in discussion??
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Sorry man, but a full bolt on Mach with weight reduction isn't going 118mph lol.

03AV8R went like 11.3 @ 117mph NA, but I think he had 96-98 cobra intake cams. And not to mention a serious amount of weight reduction.

I have seen fully build Mach 1's with cams/ported heads do about 120-121mph.

But stop it, a bolt on Mach isn't doing 116-118mph your full of ****.
Your typical full bolt on Mach, stock heads/cams will do about 108-110mph.
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Bolt on LS6s go 131 no problem though
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
Bolt on LS6s go 131 no problem though
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
no they don't.....slips and vids to proof it


Redfire tried to....he's was the only one.......and you see what happened to him.


So you whine about my weight but yet would like to put a 5.4 in a light fox.......oohhh the irony
Wrong everybody knows there is more to that car then what meets the eye. I have slips and vids as well derp. I only give you a hard time because you play your car down as some basic Bolton setup when it is not basic by any means.

Originally Posted by NW-99SS
You're helping me make my point and not realizing it. Dollar for dollar, mod for mod, it's cheaper to go quicker in an LS1 than a 2V. Do I hate 2V's, nope, I get that people like different cars. Just stating the facts.

Do 2 cams cost more than 1?? Do 4 cams cost more than 1?? Only a tiny piece of the puzzle. Trolling fail - nuthuggers are those that resort to the same example of 1 car, post after post, thread after thread. Please provide proof of me nuthugging, or shall I do a 0.001 sec search and list the 500+ posts you have made about this 2V in discussion??
This has nothing to do with a dollar to dollar argument. This is a typical ls tactic when they are being owned. I can post another one if you would like Like I said if you think it was just off the shelf average joe **** that made that car what It is. Then yes you are a blind ls nuthugger.

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Sorry man, but a full bolt on Mach with weight reduction isn't going 118mph lol.

03AV8R went like 11.3 @ 117mph NA, but I think he had 96-98 cobra intake cams. And not to mention a serious amount of weight reduction.

I have seen fully build Mach 1's with cams/ported heads do about 120-121mph.

But stop it, a bolt on Mach isn't doing 116-118mph your full of ****.
Your typical full bolt on Mach, stock heads/cams will do about 108-110mph.
My bad I guess all of those Bolton 4.6 4vs that have been 118+ are bs now because you said so

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Bolt on LS6s go 131 no problem though
Yup all day everyday.
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Originally Posted by automach1
Sure show a stock cube ls1 making 600+ n/a
Show me a 5.4L that does that. Don't even try the Pro Weld engine since they claim "about" 600HP, they don't show a dyno graph, nor do they say if that is installed and to the rear wheels. Also, no one has really tried to do something that silly on the stock cube LS1 because there are better and cheaper options. GM produced better options and updates to the original LS1 design, so naturally the builders would have gone to those options rather than throw money at the old design, just like the new builders will be switching to the coyote engines.

You are also trying to use $20K+ top end racing and specialty engines that are completely not streetable to support your argument. So allow me to rephrase. For the general population looking to upgrade with mass produced bolt ons at a reasonable price for a daily drivable car, the LS1 wins easily.
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