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Old 11-09-2013, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 2003Cobro
These GM guys are funny. They love to knock the blower when GM just keep upping the cubes. 7.0L, 6.2L, etc. Maybe the next Camaro with weigh in at 4,500lb and have a 9.0L but hey its N/A
Oh huh… That's been covered… except it was 8.5L, using the 6.2L with the 2.3 blower.

But the Ford guys had an inexplicable bout of reticence for a while there, so the idea was dropped.
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Originally Posted by OVA1
Sorry Buddy… I dumbed it down to rock bottom.

Let me see if I can find the grandkids crayons… Maybe I can draw something up and get it posted for ya.
I like crayons.

Ps. You are very special, I don't care what anyone else says about you.
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Originally Posted by islander033
I like crayons.

Ps. You are very special, I don't care what anyone else says about you.
Oh man… I just adore happy endings. You're the second best!
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Originally Posted by 2003Cobro
These GM guys are funny. They love to knock the blower when GM just keep upping the cubes. 7.0L, 6.2L, etc. Maybe the next Camaro with weigh in at 4,500lb and have a 9.0L but hey its N/A
Why are on here talking ****? You do realize your 32v Blown v8 is in the realm of bolt-on ls1's with 100+hp less right?
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Why are on here talking ****? You do realize your 32v Blown v8 is in the realm of bolt-on ls1's with 100+hp less right?
Your talking about my quarter E.T.s? Im not building a track car. My car has 5 bolt ons. Drove it to the track, ran on street tires, drove home. Sure guys with less power can run faster. Im not running on slicks and skinnies launching at 6k and cutting 1.5 60fts. But if i did those things then yeah id be running some killer E.T.s. I have raced many a bolt on LS1 over the years they aren't running mid 11s thats for sure.
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I'm talking it don't even take headers to get in the realm where you are. If a ls1 don't run 11's with bolt-ons then it's not modded/driven right.
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It's like OVA doesn't realize that Ford has a brand new platform coming out, and everybody has known about that for some time now. They are doing the GT500 as a last hurrah for the platform that is not only on its way out, but arguably the last of the "old school" type ponycars. I'm not the only one that feels this way either. Starting in a couple of years, both cars will be built on very modern platforms with IRS. I have no problem for a car that maximizes what a brutish car can do with "old tech." That's a lot of the reason I prefer the C4 to the C5.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I'm talking it don't even take headers to get in the realm where you are. If a ls1 don't run 11's with bolt-ons then it's not modded/driven right.
haha yes basic bolt on LS1s all run 11s. You ever take a look at the sigs of people on your own damn site? I see a lot of people taking more than basic bolt ons to run in the 11s unless they are cutting 1.6ish 60fts. In fact cruising around i see a decent amount in the mid 12s. You would thing that the smooth scaley skin of the catfish would cut through quarter faster.
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Let me help you
https://ls1tech.com/forums/12-second-club-86/
Look at these guys mods running mid 12s
looks concrete to me
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I'm talking it don't even take headers to get in the realm where you are. If a ls1 don't run 11's with bolt-ons then it's not modded/driven right.
If bolton cobras don't run 10s then they are not modded/driven right
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Originally Posted by islander033
So the 2.3L TVS is a panic blower? Lol
Yes... yes it is.... other cars panic when they find out I have one on my car.
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Originally Posted by OVA1
ZR1? My understanding is that Ford didn't even know Chevy had a ZR1…

That Ford built the '13 500 purely to compete against the technologically superior ZL1.

Which they did with a straight axle chassis, an engine bored to its max… and a bigger blower.

Hopefully, this as a means to buy some time to offer something that can compete with the rides that follow the stock, 11 second, NA, 30 mpg rides Chevy customers are driving off the lot today.

Cause that engine and that blower ain't gonna do it… .

But hey! Maybe there's no limit to the size of the blower a manufacturer can reliably install on a Mustang? Which if that's the case… they're SOLID GOLD and lookin' good!

Just one note... the primary differences between the 11-12 GT500 5.4, and the 13- 5.8 is the TVS, and they removed the cylinder sleeves, which is where they gained the extra .4ci, a slightly different cam profile, and larger injectors... slightly more efficient intercooler. That it pretty much it other than some suspension refinements.
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Originally Posted by 427zm
Truth is these moves are so statically planned they happen YEARS ahead of the release date. I just finished reading an article about the LS7 stating they started development on it in '03. That's 3 years ahead of its first release. A new motor design can't happen over night.
When a new bodystyle vehicle is released.. ie. C7 vettes.. they have generally been working on it for 5 years... design refinements, EPA testing, etc etc etc. Its not a 1 year type thing. They are already working on the C8 Vettes.
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Originally Posted by 2003Cobro
haha yes basic bolt on LS1s all run 11s. You ever take a look at the sigs of people on your own damn site? I see a lot of people taking more than basic bolt ons to run in the 11s unless they are cutting 1.6ish 60fts. In fact cruising around i see a decent amount in the mid 12s. You would thing that the smooth scaley skin of the catfish would cut through quarter faster.
Originally Posted by 2003Cobro
Let me help you
https://ls1tech.com/forums/12-second-club-86/
Look at these guys mods running mid 12s
looks concrete to me
I can't help what others do.....I can only do what I do. And Notch and I have done it.
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If bolton cobras don't run 10s then they are not modded/driven right
What's wrong with his car and yours then?
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Originally Posted by 2003Cobro
Your talking about my quarter E.T.s? Im not building a track car. My car has 5 bolt ons. Drove it to the track, ran on street tires, drove home. Sure guys with less power can run faster. Im not running on slicks and skinnies launching at 6k and cutting 1.5 60fts. But if i did those things then yeah id be running some killer E.T.s. I have raced many a bolt on LS1 over the years they aren't running mid 11s thats for sure.


LoL, you are using Hio's terms against him
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very comparable......this was not a track car either.
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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
When a new bodystyle vehicle is released.. ie. C7 vettes.. they have generally been working on it for 5 years... design refinements, EPA testing, etc etc etc. Its not a 1 year type thing. They are already working on the C8 Vettes.
Yep. These manufactures have to prepare that far ahead in order to get new models out that meet the needs of the public, EPA, and safety admin.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I'm talking it don't even take headers to get in the realm where you are. If a ls1 don't run 11's with bolt-ons then it's not modded/driven right.
Coming back to this statement. Take a second of you catfish hugging day to check out 11sec tech. Lots of guys with H/C/I set ups in the mid 11s at best. Must suck to put basic bolt ons on and run high 11s then throw a whole H/C/I on it and only gain a tenth or two.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I can't help what others do.....I can only do what I do. And Notch and I have done it.


What's wrong with his car and yours then?
Not modded/driven right duh
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
It's like OVA doesn't realize that Ford has a brand new platform coming out, and everybody has known about that for some time now. They are doing the GT500 as a last hurrah for the platform that is not only on its way out, but arguably the last of the "old school" type ponycars. I'm not the only one that feels this way either. Starting in a couple of years, both cars will be built on very modern platforms with IRS. I have no problem for a car that maximizes what a brutish car can do with "old tech." That's a lot of the reason I prefer the C4 to the C5.
gm has a new platform as well. things are going to get good.


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