Fire breathing, turbocharged C5 Corvette rolls out
11-27-2013, 06:36 PM
#81
Yet it's like you all are still not grasping what I'm saying. If you take this corvette and move the turbo to the font you're going to drop some weight and increase spool time. This is what I meant when I said comparable front mount setup. The car runs good, I'm not trying to take anything away from it. I'm just simply comparing rear mount to front mount. You keep rocking on with your rear mount and I'll keep my front mount kit that spools a slightly bigger turbo faster with the same displacement and no divided housing or spool valve.
All based off your assumption. If I am removing a turbo from the same vehicle, from the back of the vehicle forward,...I still have to build a "kit" right"? Well, when we build a kit,....we build it accordingly. Thats what you do. You take setup A,...and match it up with the car, the expected use, etc. As in,..you build correct size piping,...you build the project. Nobody is talking about a kit here. Nobody is saying that a turbo in the rear, wouldn't inherently have a longer spool time...... all I and others are trying to say is if you build the setup right, turbos DO NOT GIVE A **** WHERE YOU PUT THEM.
That's it man. I think your generalizing too much...that might work out well on a GTR board with a bunch of computer controlled geeks but,..LS1tech has some SMART ******* that built **** over and over again paving the road for all of us. Erase "kit" from your mind holmes.
PS...just finished a joint project on a newer vehicle..turns out, it is indeed a rear mount setup. Spools up QUICK....and as Zglass stated....your eliminating a steel pipe, and using an aluminum one. Steel, very heavy, aluminum, ahh,..not so much these days.
If we weigh that car,...show you how much, or in this case, how little it actually added to the car,...vs the H pipe being removed, vs the two rear giant mufflers being removed....with the 4 cats being removed.... how much weight do you really think that we added? I want you to really think about it,.....if your up to it.
Then,...like Zglass stated...think of where the weight,..IFFFFFFFFFFFFF ANY,...was added.
Outside the box friend.
I'd apologize for being so harsh but, not in my nature.
11-27-2013, 07:21 PM
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All based off your assumption. If I am removing a turbo from the same vehicle, from the back of the vehicle forward,...I still have to build a "kit" right"? Well, when we build a kit,....we build it accordingly. Thats what you do. You take setup A,...and match it up with the car, the expected use, etc. As in,..you build correct size piping,...you build the project. Nobody is talking about a kit here. Nobody is saying that a turbo in the rear, wouldn't inherently have a longer spool time...... all I and others are trying to say is if you build the setup right, turbos DO NOT GIVE A **** WHERE YOU PUT THEM.
That's it man. I think your generalizing too much...that might work out well on a GTR board with a bunch of computer controlled geeks but,..LS1tech has some SMART ******* that built **** over and over again paving the road for all of us. Erase "kit" from your mind holmes.
PS...just finished a joint project on a newer vehicle..turns out, it is indeed a rear mount setup. Spools up QUICK....and as Zglass stated....your eliminating a steel pipe, and using an aluminum one. Steel, very heavy, aluminum, ahh,..not so much these days.
If we weigh that car,...show you how much, or in this case, how little it actually added to the car,...vs the H pipe being removed, vs the two rear giant mufflers being removed....with the 4 cats being removed.... how much weight do you really think that we added? I want you to really think about it,.....if your up to it.
Then,...like Zglass stated...think of where the weight,..IFFFFFFFFFFFFF ANY,...was added.
Outside the box friend.
I'd apologize for being so harsh but, not in my nature.
That's it man. I think your generalizing too much...that might work out well on a GTR board with a bunch of computer controlled geeks but,..LS1tech has some SMART ******* that built **** over and over again paving the road for all of us. Erase "kit" from your mind holmes.
PS...just finished a joint project on a newer vehicle..turns out, it is indeed a rear mount setup. Spools up QUICK....and as Zglass stated....your eliminating a steel pipe, and using an aluminum one. Steel, very heavy, aluminum, ahh,..not so much these days.
If we weigh that car,...show you how much, or in this case, how little it actually added to the car,...vs the H pipe being removed, vs the two rear giant mufflers being removed....with the 4 cats being removed.... how much weight do you really think that we added? I want you to really think about it,.....if your up to it.
Then,...like Zglass stated...think of where the weight,..IFFFFFFFFFFFFF ANY,...was added.
Outside the box friend.
I'd apologize for being so harsh but, not in my nature.
I will be weighing the car at a scale we use all the time. Bet im around 3100 still.
11-27-2013, 09:12 PM
#83
A rear mount kit is heavier than a front mount kit, unless the front mount has a full exhaust. Obviously depending on materials the weight added may not be much. As far as the rest of argument I feel like you're agreeing with me, while claiming to disagree with me.
11-27-2013, 09:35 PM
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SO thermo dynamics wins races..... GOT IT....
01MagRedC5, Ricky's car does not meet the thermodynamic requirements for this thread.... So lets leave bottom bottom 9 sec stick cars with a 346" engines with stock heads/intakes/baby cams out of this.... His boost obviously comes in waaayyy too late for this thread.
01MagRedC5, Ricky's car does not meet the thermodynamic requirements for this thread.... So lets leave bottom bottom 9 sec stick cars with a 346" engines with stock heads/intakes/baby cams out of this.... His boost obviously comes in waaayyy too late for this thread.
BTW Aj, I never changed my name on here but...I am Y2KRoadster over on CF.
Nick...you are entertaining! Please keep posting.
11-27-2013, 09:48 PM
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well since most street cars run a full exhaust your not really making any point. I don't see the normal street car dumping the exhaust out the fender or bumper.
11-28-2013, 01:21 AM
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What happen to car people? In the old days people would see a kickin car like Zglass and want to check it out run it, give props to the owner and enjoy a killer car, Love the American flag btw.
Now, especially on a GM board, people want to throw others under a bus or come up with, your stuff aint as good as mine/whom ever's stuff.???? (We expect that from FORD guys, lol) but geeezz, the young not real car people show up here in force!!
Go ZGLASS, GO Fast, Go Real Car People.
Now, especially on a GM board, people want to throw others under a bus or come up with, your stuff aint as good as mine/whom ever's stuff.???? (We expect that from FORD guys, lol) but geeezz, the young not real car people show up here in force!!
Go ZGLASS, GO Fast, Go Real Car People.
11-28-2013, 07:40 AM
#89
I think your smoking on some good ****,........wanna share with the rest of us?
Your again, basing your opinion off laws of assumption...
Your being hard headed and not being open minded to the fact that turbos will work in near all conditions...
And your not giving the builders of today,...enough credit. There is so much technology and data available to all of us today, it's a shame more people either 1)don't have skill/vision or 2) don't have the facility to pull it off in(a build).
In the end, bad information, is bad information. Spreading like a cancer one laptop to another. The moral of the story is, a properly designed mid/rear mount turbo/twin turbo setup will work wonderfully, and spool on cue on paper(graph) or more importantly at the track or in this case, the street.
I leave you with this-
(my car for years had the EXACT SAME GEAR SET IN IT THAT THIS CAR HAS...without ever hearing of eachother).
different car, probably faster
Just to keep your mind in check.
11-28-2013, 09:07 AM
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Let me help you out with your rear mount videos.
http://www.dragzine.com/news/turbos-...jors-corvette/
11-28-2013, 12:12 PM
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