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Old 12-08-2013, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by islander033
Hammer is right, the 5.Br0 is disappointing when compared to the vette.

The 5th gen vs 2011+ 5.Br0 is not allowed anymore. lol
Yeah, god forbid we have a valid argument about two cars that were actually designed to compete with one another...
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Originally Posted by Gt4urass
Yeah, god forbid we have a valid argument about two cars that were actually designed to compete with one another...
and are a 100% drivers race.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Disappointing? .
yes.

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Originally Posted by big hammer
and are a 100% drivers race.
Since never
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Since never
yeah since facts.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
yeah since facts.
Having owned one and plenty of friends with 5th gens we put it to the test multiple times. The 5.0 is simply faster. Sorry your to much of a fan boy to realize it.
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Originally Posted by R6cowboy
You say he shoulda been able to out run him. Like his car should be more what it is. Everyone with a clue knows if a certain car "could" be faster. The same thing could be said about the Honda. But it isn't, they aren't. The cars are what they are. What any car "could" or "should" be is always irrelevant.

Your Camaro ran 11.05 @ 131.3. It should be faster then that. But who am I to say that.
Your right my car should be faster. 10bolt

But since we have the same engine except his with a cam he should be faster than me. Here's where we have a problem you see. General consensus is that honda is a ~125mph car. I'm gonna walk it pretty good.......and he should walk me if his cammed ls6 is right. But it didn't work out like that. Thus letting me to believe his car should be faster.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Having owned one and plenty of friends with 5th gens we put it to the test multiple times. The 5.0 is simply faster. Sorry your to much of a fan boy to realize it.
wrong.
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I'll give the 5.0 the edge over the current car. Although I think it has to be a base optioned 5.0 to have that edge.

If done right I think a 5th gen has more room for improvement......most just don't do it right.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I'll give the 5.0 the edge over the current car. Although I think it has to be a base optioned 5.0 to have that edge.

If done right I think a 5th gen has more room for improvement......most just don't do it right.
the base 5.0 has a slight edge at the track. any other mag comparisons have them within .1 second and 1 mph in the 1\4 either way. definitely much closer than the much closer drivers race between an ls1 and mach 1 as touted by the mustang bois.

if the ls1 and mach 1 were a drivers race, then an ls3 Camaro and a 5.0 are DEFINATELY a drivers race.
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Magazine tests are one thing, times posted of the actual OWNERS of the cars are another.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Magazine tests are one thing, times posted of the actual OWNERS of the cars are another.
within a tenth.
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Both cars have been out more than long enough for owners to get the best times out of each in great conditions at a great track. As far as I know, the best time for a 5.0 is 3 tenths quicker and 3-4mph faster than the best time for a 5th gen. They are very close in performance, and the different trim levels make street encounters hard to predict, but all things equal the 5.0 is simply the faster of the two cars. Just like the opposite is the case with the Mach 1/LS1 4th gen.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Both cars have been more than long enough for owners to get the best times out of each in great conditions at a great track. As far as I know, the best time for a 5.0 is 3 tenths and 3-4mph more than the 5th gen. They are very close in performance, and the different trim levels make street encounters hard to predict, but all things equal the 5.0 is simply the faster of the two cars.
stock gt's have gone 12.0?
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12.2. Fastest time I've seen for a 5th gen is 12.58 @ 110mph. Has someone eclipsed that?
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Originally Posted by big hammer
the base 5.0 has a slight edge at the track. any other mag comparisons have them within .1 second and 1 mph in the 1\4 either way. definitely much closer than the much closer drivers race between an ls1 and mach 1 as touted by the mustang bois.

if the ls1 and mach 1 were a drivers race, then an ls3 Camaro and a 5.0 are DEFINATELY a drivers race.
I agree
Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Magazine tests are one thing, times posted of the actual OWNERS of the cars are another.
different tracks/prep/drivers/days makes this statement completely off. That's where the mags are a more fair test. Same driver same day same track same prep.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I agree


different tracks/prep/drivers/days makes this statement completely off. That's where the mags are a more fair test. Same driver same day same track same prep.
Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Both cars have been out more than long enough for owners to get the best times out of each in great conditions at a great track. As far as I know, the best time for a 5.0 is 3 tenths quicker and 3-4mph faster than the best time for a 5th gen. They are very close in performance, and the different trim levels make street encounters hard to predict, but all things equal the 5.0 is simply the faster of the two cars. Just like the opposite is the case with the Mach 1/LS1 4th gen.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
within a tenth.
Not when you look at actual times guys get out of them. Best 5th gen has ran 12.5 bone stock. Best 5.0 has ran 12.2...Add a tire and its still the same with several guys now that have gone 11.9-12.2 with just a tire on 5.0's. And 5th gens still in the 12.4 range.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
stock gt's have gone 12.0?
No 5th gen has gone 12.3....
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I'll give the 5.0 the edge over the current car. Although I think it has to be a base optioned 5.0 to have that edge.

If done right I think a 5th gen has more room for improvement......most just don't do it right.
If you stay n/A and going to build I would take the 5th gen all day as lots more options as you can do stroker setups. But bolt on for bolt on the 5.0 is killing the 5th gen. FI the 5.0 is killing the 5th gen as well. Even on both doing all out builds. The 5.0 is close to mid 7's now. And JPC still drives there car on power tours etc. The 5th gen is is in the mid 8's. Thats on all out builds that can still be driven on the street.


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