2002 Camaro SS vs 2011 Mustang
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So your saying that 3:73 gears with a 3600 stall would do nothing for the car? I highly disagree with you just from my personal experience alone. With my set up and most my power starting around 3500 rpm's my gears and stall (3600 btw) it fell's very different! Hell when I just had headers, lid, full exhaust done my trans blew and then I had it rebuilt with a 3600 stall put in and even the guy who runs the Sun shine drag strip down in Tampa Fl even said it would run a lot better and it did. Also you saying "Again wrong" regarding to my other statement what part of that is wrong do explain. Because the 60E trans is a garbage trans so thats not wrong, If your reffering to me saying a 4000 stall and 4:10 gears is a good match up then I can see that being wrong because IDK on that but i could see how that would be a better match up than a 3600 stall with 4:10 gears and depending on what kinda stall he puts in should depend where he wants his power band to start. Thats why after I put a 3600 stall in mine I made sure to have good power around 3500 to 3600 rpm's. So just saying wrong is pointless do explain as to why you think im wrong.
373s on a car with 323s and a converter is a waste of time. Car will pick up nothing. The converter works well not question. Gears are not needed. 410s with an A4 and a stock cam with stock tires is way over kill. Car will go into OD before the traps.
Im 24 man i just dont like how someone says im wrong and thats it if im wrong on something then say why so I know not to give bad info to the next guy, figured that was common sense on here guess not. Ive had plenty of people tell me to use 3:73 gears with my 3600 stall so I bought them. Also I had a couple of tuners tell me that as well, that way it can be more street friendly. like I said I bought the stall first so I built the car *** backwards. truth be told I should of built the car like this (IMO that is) suspension, rear end, transmission, then motor/engine (what ever you prefer). Like I said if im wrong then explain why im wrong considering you have to be so politically correct on here give me facts as to why im wrong
373s are not needed. Even on a cammed car. Car will pick up nothing on a car with 323s. I have done it on numerous cars since 1998. How many times have you done it? Saying the stock A4 is garbage is another wrong statement. You need to run aftermarket cooler when you run a converter which you never mentioned having or telling OP to get it. Have gotten cars to run 10s with the stock A4 with just a cooler. Don't abuse it or manually shift it and change fluid all the time. It will live. It doiesn't like high rpms either.
Refer to above. As usual you are spouting stuff off you have no experience with. OP car needs a rebuild on tranny and something is way off just in stock form so that should be corrected before anymore mods are done. I would suggest for reliability in stock from to run a cooler,truck pan and a transgo shift kit. With those mods on a stock tranny it should run 10s at stock weight and stock shift points for a long time. Also with a converter you need a good tuner. Just doing the shiftpoints on one is a headache. OP may not want to do it or spend the money. I do agree a converter is the best mod for his car everything is done. 373s are a waste, 410s on a stock height tire car is overgeared big time plus it makes the ten bolt weaker.
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373s on a car with 323s and a converter is a waste of time. Car will pick up nothing. The converter works well not question. Gears are not needed. 410s with an A4 and a stock cam with stock tires is way over kill. Car will go into OD before the traps.
373s are not needed. Even on a cammed car. Car will pick up nothing on a car with 323s. I have done it on numerous cars since 1998. How many times have you done it? Saying the stock A4 is garbage is another wrong statement. You need to run aftermarket cooler when you run a converter which you never mentioned having or telling OP to get it. Have gotten cars to run 10s with the stock A4 with just a cooler. Don't abuse it or manually shift it and change fluid all the time. It will live. It doiesn't like high rpms either.
Refer to above. As usual you are spouting stuff off you have no experience with. OP car needs a rebuild on tranny and something is way off just in stock form so that should be corrected before anymore mods are done. I would suggest for reliability in stock from to run a cooler,truck pan and a transgo shift kit. With those mods on a stock tranny it should run 10s at stock weight and stock shift points for a long time. Also with a converter you need a good tuner. Just doing the shiftpoints on one is a headache. OP may not want to do it or spend the money. I do agree a converter is the best mod for his car everything is done. 373s are a waste, 410s on a stock height tire car is overgeared big time plus it makes the ten bolt weaker.
373s are not needed. Even on a cammed car. Car will pick up nothing on a car with 323s. I have done it on numerous cars since 1998. How many times have you done it? Saying the stock A4 is garbage is another wrong statement. You need to run aftermarket cooler when you run a converter which you never mentioned having or telling OP to get it. Have gotten cars to run 10s with the stock A4 with just a cooler. Don't abuse it or manually shift it and change fluid all the time. It will live. It doiesn't like high rpms either.
Refer to above. As usual you are spouting stuff off you have no experience with. OP car needs a rebuild on tranny and something is way off just in stock form so that should be corrected before anymore mods are done. I would suggest for reliability in stock from to run a cooler,truck pan and a transgo shift kit. With those mods on a stock tranny it should run 10s at stock weight and stock shift points for a long time. Also with a converter you need a good tuner. Just doing the shiftpoints on one is a headache. OP may not want to do it or spend the money. I do agree a converter is the best mod for his car everything is done. 373s are a waste, 410s on a stock height tire car is overgeared big time plus it makes the ten bolt weaker.
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So your saying that 3:73 gears with a 3600 stall would do nothing for the car? I highly disagree with you just from my personal experience alone. With my set up and most my power starting around 3500 rpm's my gears and stall (3600 btw) it fell's very different! Hell when I just had headers, lid, full exhaust done my trans blew and then I had it rebuilt with a 3600 stall put in and even the guy who runs the Sun shine drag strip down in Tampa Fl even said it would run a lot better and it did. Also you saying "Again wrong" regarding to my other statement what part of that is wrong do explain. Because the 60E trans is a garbage trans so thats not wrong, If your reffering to me saying a 4000 stall and 4:10 gears is a good match up then I can see that being wrong because IDK on that but i could see how that would be a better match up than a 3600 stall with 4:10 gears and depending on what kinda stall he puts in should depend where he wants his power band to start. Thats why after I put a 3600 stall in mine I made sure to have good power around 3500 to 3600 rpm's. So just saying wrong is pointless do explain as to why you think im wrong.
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So your saying that 3:73 gears with a 3600 stall would do nothing for the car? I highly disagree with you just from my personal experience alone. With my set up and most my power starting around 3500 rpm's my gears and stall (3600 btw) it fell's very different! Hell when I just had headers, lid, full exhaust done my trans blew and then I had it rebuilt with a 3600 stall put in and even the guy who runs the Sun shine drag strip down in Tampa Fl even said it would run a lot better and it did. Also you saying "Again wrong" regarding to my other statement what part of that is wrong do explain. Because the 60E trans is a garbage trans so thats not wrong, If your reffering to me saying a 4000 stall and 4:10 gears is a good match up then I can see that being wrong because IDK on that but i could see how that would be a better match up than a 3600 stall with 4:10 gears and depending on what kinda stall he puts in should depend where he wants his power band to start. Thats why after I put a 3600 stall in mine I made sure to have good power around 3500 to 3600 rpm's. So just saying wrong is pointless do explain as to why you think im wrong.
Im 24 man i just dont like how someone says im wrong and thats it if im wrong on something then say why so I know not to give bad info to the next guy, figured that was common sense on here guess not. Ive had plenty of people tell me to use 3:73 gears with my 3600 stall so I bought them. Also I had a couple of tuners tell me that as well, that way it can be more street friendly. like I said I bought the stall first so I built the car *** backwards. truth be told I should of built the car like this (IMO that is) suspension, rear end, transmission, then motor/engine (what ever you prefer). Like I said if im wrong then explain why im wrong considering you have to be so politically correct on here give me facts as to why im wrong
Refer to above. As usual you are spouting stuff off you have no experience with. OP car needs a rebuild on tranny and something is way off just in stock form so that should be corrected before anymore mods are done. I would suggest for reliability in stock from to run a cooler,truck pan and a transgo shift kit. With those mods on a stock tranny it should run 10s at stock weight and stock shift points for a long time. Also with a converter you need a good tuner. Just doing the shiftpoints on one is a headache. OP may not want to do it or spend the money. I do agree a converter is the best mod for his car everything is done. 373s are a waste, 410s on a stock height tire car is overgeared big time plus it makes the ten bolt weaker.
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So your saying that 3:73 gears with a 3600 stall would do nothing for the car? I highly disagree with you just from my personal experience alone. With my set up and most my power starting around 3500 rpm's my gears and stall (3600 btw) it fell's very different! Hell when I just had headers, lid, full exhaust done my trans blew and then I had it rebuilt with a 3600 stall put in and even the guy who runs the Sun shine drag strip down in Tampa Fl even said it would run a lot better and it did. Also you saying "Again wrong" regarding to my other statement what part of that is wrong do explain. Because the 60E trans is a garbage trans so thats not wrong, If your reffering to me saying a 4000 stall and 4:10 gears is a good match up then I can see that being wrong because IDK on that but i could see how that would be a better match up than a 3600 stall with 4:10 gears and depending on what kinda stall he puts in should depend where he wants his power band to start. Thats why after I put a 3600 stall in mine I made sure to have good power around 3500 to 3600 rpm's. So just saying wrong is pointless do explain as to why you think im wrong.
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373s are not needed. Even on a cammed car. Car will pick up nothing on a car with 323s. I have done it on numerous cars since 1998. How many times have you done it? Saying the stock A4 is garbage is another wrong statement. You need to run aftermarket cooler when you run a converter which you never mentioned having or telling OP to get it. Have gotten cars to run 10s with the stock A4 with just a cooler. Don't abuse it or manually shift it and change fluid all the time. It will live. It doiesn't like high rpms either.
Refer to above. As usual you are spouting stuff off you have no experience with. OP car needs a rebuild on tranny and something is way off just in stock form so that should be corrected before anymore mods are done. I would suggest for reliability in stock from to run a cooler,truck pan and a transgo shift kit. With those mods on a stock tranny it should run 10s at stock weight and stock shift points for a long time. Also with a converter you need a good tuner. Just doing the shiftpoints on one is a headache. OP may not want to do it or spend the money. I do agree a converter is the best mod for his car everything is done. 373s are a waste, 410s on a stock height tire car is overgeared big time plus it makes the ten bolt weaker.
Refer to above. As usual you are spouting stuff off you have no experience with. OP car needs a rebuild on tranny and something is way off just in stock form so that should be corrected before anymore mods are done. I would suggest for reliability in stock from to run a cooler,truck pan and a transgo shift kit. With those mods on a stock tranny it should run 10s at stock weight and stock shift points for a long time. Also with a converter you need a good tuner. Just doing the shiftpoints on one is a headache. OP may not want to do it or spend the money. I do agree a converter is the best mod for his car everything is done. 373s are a waste, 410s on a stock height tire car is overgeared big time plus it makes the ten bolt weaker.
Depending on what you go with, gears can be necessary. You wouldn't want to run something like a Vindicator or TReX with the stock 3.23's. :/ On a close to stock car tho I agree the gears do little in terms of performance.
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So do tell me how many drag cars have you built? Also his shop wouldn't be in business if he did bad builds thats common sense so think about it before you open your mouth....
As for not being in business if bad builds were done, you're PROVING just how ridiculously clueless you really are with each post. ASK AROUND, boy... You'll hear, if you listen and can comprehend, good and bad stories about EVERY performance shop in America, including every single shop still in business. Many shops not still in business were very good at what they did, also, but went out of business for any of various reasons. I've known builders who had such depth, they could've stayed in business till they died, but got drug and/or drinking habits that ruined their reputations, thus their business.
If the guy who runs/owns the Sun Shine track runs his race car building company as he does the track, he's got trouble ahead. Be it known, that track will simply NEVER be a major racing attraction, period.
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I cannot remember how many cars/engines I've built, but I used to do it for a living, so... more than 1 or 2.
As for not being in business if bad builds were done, you're PROVING just how ridiculously clueless you really are with each post. ASK AROUND, boy... You'll hear, if you listen and can comprehend, good and bad stories about EVERY performance shop in America, including every single shop still in business. Many shops not still in business were very good at what they did, also, but went out of business for any of various reasons. I've known builders who had such depth, they could've stayed in business till they died, but got drug and/or drinking habits that ruined their reputations, thus their business.
If the guy who runs/owns the Sun Shine track runs his race car building company as he does the track, he's got trouble ahead. Be it known, that track will simply NEVER be a major racing attraction, period.
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2011 Mustang V6 before and after mods dyno:
Not bad at all.
Here's another dyno vid before and after some mods and tune, on an auto car:
My friend has a 2012 that he wants to race me with.
Not bad at all.
Here's another dyno vid before and after some mods and tune, on an auto car:
My friend has a 2012 that he wants to race me with.
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Mac my experience comes from racing them and nodding them for years. Put 323 gears in your car and see what happens. 373,410s are a waste on 346 car with a converter. Stop recommending mods to.someone that is a waste of money. Way more mods he can do for less money than gears which will no improvement on op car.
The 60 can be reliable if not abused around 400 at the wheels. Since 1992 I have broken two a4s. Last one was my fault.
The 60 can be reliable if not abused around 400 at the wheels. Since 1992 I have broken two a4s. Last one was my fault.