LT1 Z28 vs. S197 GT 3v
03-17-2014, 07:44 PM
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I'll give you the GTO, but the fifth gen is a bit of a stretch...we're talking 5 years later by then, but I do see your point. I just never understood all the hate. The car was a progression in every possibly way from the previous iteration, except for looks IMO. I hated those bloated bastards.
03-17-2014, 07:58 PM
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That's a pretty stout run IMO. The 5.0's are infinitely better, no doubt. But, my argument has always been that just because the 5.0 overshadows everything prior, it doesn't mean that ye old 3v was a turd. The 5.0 is just ridiculous by comparison.
03-17-2014, 09:34 PM
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03-17-2014, 09:49 PM
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Yep and I said they were even up. Once mods start it's all lt though. Kinda sad ford had a completely new engine in 2005 that kept up with a engine from 1992. Realistically we should not even be having this conversation.
03-17-2014, 10:03 PM
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You started arguing with me for no reason when I said that exact same thing a WHILE ago. Somebody said "LT1>3V," I think it was big hammer, and I responded with this;
Yep. There are a few bolt-on only 3Vs in the 11s, cams are needed to run deep in the 11s. Like I said, the 3V holds an advantage on/even with the LT1 until you get past basic I/H/E stuff. But there are TONS of I/H/E/stall automatic 3Vs running pretty well into the 12s. I'm not talking about cars with "creative weight reduction," talking about simple straightforward basic bolt-on cars.
A guy at my local track had a 3v once upon a time. IDK what his mods was but he had slicks on it. Fucken thing would pick up the left front...........on a run that would net him a 13.0.....lol
You do your best to try to discredit anything I say........That statement pretty much sums it up.
Looks like lt's have been pretty deep in the 11's with bolt-ons there for making it faster than a 3v. Maybe you should've checked the link. You act like no one ever takes weight out of mustangs..........stipulate much?
You do your best to try to discredit anything I say........That statement pretty much sums it up.
Looks like lt's have been pretty deep in the 11's with bolt-ons there for making it faster than a 3v. Maybe you should've checked the link. You act like no one ever takes weight out of mustangs..........stipulate much?
It's pretty common knowledge that the 3V is pretty much square in the middle of the Mach 1 and pre-'03 Cobra; high 13s with most semi-ok drivers, mid 13s with a good driver and good conditions, and lowER 13s on a hero run. It doesn't have to be astounding performance, cuz it's just the truth.
03-17-2014, 10:09 PM
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It's what I said they were even up dude, both are high 13 low 14.....give it up already. But once mods start it's lt.......that's why LT> 3v. Get the **** over it already. Go trade off your tuarass on a 3v if you want
03-17-2014, 10:12 PM
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03-18-2014, 12:40 AM
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Went to a grudge event at the track to test out my new (to me) wheels/tires. It hooked much better than my stock wheels with the m/t's. It left then bogged down. Gotta go again when they do regular test and tune to get a time slip & try different rpm launches.
03-18-2014, 11:23 AM
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Went to a grudge event at the track to test out my new (to me) wheels/tires. It hooked much better than my stock wheels with the m/t's. It left then bogged down. Gotta go again when they do regular test and tune to get a time slip & try different rpm launches.
Went to a grudge event at the track to test out my new (to me) wheels/tires. It hooked much better than my stock wheels with the m/t's. It left then bogged down. Gotta go again when they do regular test and tune to get a time slip & try different rpm launches.
03-18-2014, 04:06 PM
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03-18-2014, 08:33 PM
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Correct. Only things I can think of that I lack in completing all the bolt ons is getting a throttle body and intake manifold.
I've been really debating on trying out a set of 4.10's I have already installed in another 10 bolt rear, just to see how much it helps/hurts the car going from 3.42's to 4.10's.
I've been really debating on trying out a set of 4.10's I have already installed in another 10 bolt rear, just to see how much it helps/hurts the car going from 3.42's to 4.10's.
03-18-2014, 09:59 PM
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Correct. Only things I can think of that I lack in completing all the bolt ons is getting a throttle body and intake manifold.
I've been really debating on trying out a set of 4.10's I have already installed in another 10 bolt rear, just to see how much it helps/hurts the car going from 3.42's to 4.10's.
I've been really debating on trying out a set of 4.10's I have already installed in another 10 bolt rear, just to see how much it helps/hurts the car going from 3.42's to 4.10's.
Let's test it:
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#2 Can you cite three distinct hues of Brown?
#3 Can you cite the name brand of a pair of leather shoes?
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03-18-2014, 11:07 PM
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Correct. Only things I can think of that I lack in completing all the bolt ons is getting a throttle body and intake manifold.
I've been really debating on trying out a set of 4.10's I have already installed in another 10 bolt rear, just to see how much it helps/hurts the car going from 3.42's to 4.10's.
I've been really debating on trying out a set of 4.10's I have already installed in another 10 bolt rear, just to see how much it helps/hurts the car going from 3.42's to 4.10's.