Lawhead

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I just love that the 5th gen never gets thrown into the mix

4th gens out perform 5th gens........

big hammer

they perform well, but they aren't the killers that the fanbois make them out to be.

evangto87

iTrader: (6)

when a factory boss on slicks cuts a 1.6 60 ft and cracks 11s at 116-117 at MIR/cecil/atco... yes that is done. And my car with an inefficient **** bum pass still out trapped those bosses by 6mph and ETed them at a slower track in worse air with a god awful 60ft. Dont worry... only a month left before I take away the little leverage you have on me . Also... whenever you guys compare your fast cars... they are at fast tracks and extreme weather circumstances. Reality is... ls1 f bodies are slower then 5.0s and the gap only grows as mods increase. Sorry you really cant accept that. Im seriously in shock that this is still a topic of discussion.

evangto87

iTrader: (6)

Hilarious you guys keep ignoring my posts about my actual friends cars that all run 100 times better then the cars you guys talk about.

12.4 at 116 with a 2.2 60 ft with JUST a catback. **** catback must have been worth a full second and atleast 7mph

big hammer

it's because you post it ad nauseam and nobody really believes you anyway. like when you kept trying to pass off that "bone stock 11 second boss" when it turned out to be modded.

big hammer

wow is that wrong.

evangto87

iTrader: (6)

i said it was a stock boss on a drag radial. And it was. Dont be ignorant. And you not believing either one of those cars shows your ignorance

evangto87

iTrader: (6)

prove it... how fast have you gone down the track again?

big hammer

what does that have to do with anything? are you getting mad again?

badformulaLS1

iTrader: (1)

The car came with the free ram air already done. Idk why I haven't upgraded that. Since I have the free one done already I may not gain the solid 1-2mph you got over having no ram air at all before the ssra.
I like my exhaust set up as is, not sure how much power Im losing with it vs true duals? Headers are 1 3/4.
Weight of the car is stock with spare/jack removed and I had a bit over a half tank of gas. No sound system.
Shifting at 6k rpm, normal shifting not no lift shifting.
Seen plenty of bolt on/tune 01-02 6 speed cars (even some A4 cars too) dyno 340-350whp with similar mods. 350-360 with full bolt ons. So Im figuring that theres no reason I shouldnt be in that range unless something is wrong with my car.
Once I finish up my cam swap and spring/shock swap I will be getting some skinnys and radials.

evangto87

iTrader: (6)

Well since youve never raced at a track and have no way of disproving the statement saying Im wrong about the gap growing as mods increase... lets compare increases in power. I gained 85whp/65wtq since stock with just bolt ons... still stock motor. (Edit: my car had a boss intake on it from the factory and only gained 5whp with a tune, means GTs can grow even more with bolt ons considering they have a GT intake and softer tune)

Since lately according to all these threads... its typical for a stock f body to make 320whp SAE... and one of the guys you always reference for making killer bolt on ls1 power made 360whp STD with all the bolt ons... Id say advantage = 5.0.

Now go ahead and tell me how wrong I am

big hammer

you're ridiculous. when the big modding starts one would be apt to discard the 5.7 altogether and start with a much larger platform as we have that option with the LSx. then the 5.0 is toast. facts are facts while the 5.0 performs well for a ford in the end it is still a quite feminine engine.

OVA1

iTrader: (12)

Evan... brother...

The best case F-body LS1s are 13 years old, with MOST of them having been rode hard and put up wet for 13+ years. The DDs have more than 150k on 'em and the garage queens seem to be averaging 60-70k.

By all rights, the new, state of the art DOHC Mustang should be annihilating those cars. And ... be honest now: We both know that they are not.

Sure, my car is an exception, because ... well I'm driving it and that's not a fair contest from a tricycle up... given the insurmountable gifts which nature has provided. But I'm only one (albeit irrepressible) example.

The rest of the guys... they're doing pretty well agains the 5.0 too.

SOoo... if it ain't US... it's gotta be YOU GUYS!

Help me through this. What's the deal?

S8ER95Z

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They kind of do... LoL.

I don't view the 5.0 and stock ls1 cars as equals... I think it would be extremely rare for an fbody to take one but I believe given the right conditions it is possible. A stock 5.0 isn't a sub 12.5 car stock though anymore than an ls1 is a sub 13.0 car. Sure we can all find a few examples but the norm is far from those numbers.

evangto87

iTrader: (6)

Again... one more time for you. The slowest of my friends in there 5.0 has trapped 111-112 at my track and has still managed to run their cars into the 12s despite their 2.0+ 60 fts. Im talking the heaviest 5.0 they make. VS my buddies stripper model which has gone well into the 12s on street tires at 116mph with just a catback. In fact.... the kid who drove his 2013 boss to 11.9 at 115 had an f body prior to it and it made 407whp. ls6 motor with ported heads and full exhaust (stock cam, stock ls6 intake). The f body was only able to put a half a car on that base 5.0 and that was when it didnt even have the only mod it had on it (catback).

I hate to break it to you guys... but there is always a reason when a slower car beats a faster car and its not because ones a freak blah blah. The fastest EVER stock recorded 4th gen still went slower then my buddies base model by a great deal and it WASNT at a record breaker track in -DA and without drag radials. Hell even the slowest of my group of friends went 12.8 at 111. Thats still show room floor stock on stock tires.

Heres your prized car before someone posts it

got-a-ls1

iTrader: (12)

this guy is a bench racing comedian . ****** 5.0 guys are a riot

evangto87

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If you think we have the fast cars... take a look at the Maryland cars. Some of the top shops and fastest tracks are all local.

big hammer

evan is a lot of fun when you get him worked up.

evangto87

iTrader: (6)

How am I bench racing? The guys Im arguing with right now, i have both gone faster then at the track with a bolt on car.... Tell me more?

They can deal with the fact that I have a bunch of friends that go faster then what they think is possible... so its not fact. And apparently neither can you.

98CayenneT/A

My buddies bone stock 2002 camaro a4 on street tires ran a 13.3, same day 5.0 on drag radials ran a 13 flat lol, they are nice cars but get your 5.0 lame **** out of here