***TX2K14 Video Thread***
03-21-2014, 09:34 AM
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Driver skill isn't an issue when it comes to roll racing. I can drive better than most with a manual at the drag strip, but these same guys that I put bus-lengths on at the track will ride door to door with me in equal power cars. We are only using 3rd-5th in the faster cars, and launching skill doesn't factor in. TRACTION, horsepower, and gearing matter most. Those of us that have been doing this know what it takes to make the big hp cars stick at 60 mph with as much power down as possible. Throwing more hp at the traction problem never works better. It is about managing hp vs speed. Boost controllers, staged/progressive nitrous, traction control, many methods.
Turbos are definitely king, but nitrous cars run just fine when set up properly. If you go back and watch the night video I posted, that yellow Viper is TT and makes the same power as my N2O + blower car. My car only makes 900-950 on blower, the 200 shot put it into another league. N2O hits much harder, more area under the curve. I pulled away pretty well. But, I'll eventually go TT + N2O to reach 1300-1400.
800 would only be competitive against the slower cars from Houston, but good for all the temporary visitors. Not being mean, just straightforward. My car at 1200 rwhp can't even hang with the faster cars here. Except at the drag strip. I wouldn't even bother coming to TX2K to "race" if I had less than 800 whp.
The problem is, that was nitrous and that won't often do well from a roll against a turbo car. Well, in my experience it wouldn't. For that kind of racing, turbo would be my route for sure.
However saying you can't go over there and compete without 800+ is just absurd.
03-21-2014, 10:45 AM
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i was going to race in the 10.5 index, but you ever roll race a 4800 pound brick? ? Aerodynamics are not your friend. I like having a 799 hp truck that I can throw 8 2x6's 40 pounds of hardware, and tools in and tow 1500 lb of sheetrock the day after I go to the track.
03-21-2014, 11:23 AM
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Driver skill isn't an issue when it comes to roll racing. I can drive better than most with a manual at the drag strip, but these same guys that I put bus-lengths on at the track will ride door to door with me in equal power cars. We are only using 3rd-5th in the faster cars, and launching skill doesn't factor in. TRACTION, horsepower, and gearing matter most. Those of us that have been doing this know what it takes to make the big hp cars stick at 60 mph with as much power down as possible. Throwing more hp at the traction problem never works better. It is about managing hp vs speed. Boost controllers, staged/progressive nitrous, traction control, many methods.
Turbos are definitely king, but nitrous cars run just fine when set up properly. If you go back and watch the night video I posted, that yellow Viper is TT and makes the same power as my N2O + blower car. My car only makes 900-950 on blower, the 200 shot put it into another league. N2O hits much harder, more area under the curve. I pulled away pretty well. But, I'll eventually go TT + N2O to reach 1300-1400.
800 would only be competitive against the slower cars from Houston, but good for all the temporary visitors. Not being mean, just straightforward. My car at 1200 rwhp can't even hang with the faster cars here. Except at the drag strip. I wouldn't even bother coming to TX2K to "race" if I had less than 800 whp.
Turbos are definitely king, but nitrous cars run just fine when set up properly. If you go back and watch the night video I posted, that yellow Viper is TT and makes the same power as my N2O + blower car. My car only makes 900-950 on blower, the 200 shot put it into another league. N2O hits much harder, more area under the curve. I pulled away pretty well. But, I'll eventually go TT + N2O to reach 1300-1400.
800 would only be competitive against the slower cars from Houston, but good for all the temporary visitors. Not being mean, just straightforward. My car at 1200 rwhp can't even hang with the faster cars here. Except at the drag strip. I wouldn't even bother coming to TX2K to "race" if I had less than 800 whp.
03-21-2014, 02:20 PM
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Surprised theres not very much footage of my black Firehawk, outran fr8train from a dig, dead even in the 1/8 with the LSX ******* on the street from a dig when I was still dialing in the progressive. Spent one night out roll racing, went to the second rd at the dig night. Overall had a great time but had a lot of trouble getting races after the first 2 nights, everyone was scared to do some friendly racing it seemed *shrug*
03-21-2014, 11:22 PM
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Driver skill isn't an issue when it comes to roll racing. I can drive better than most with a manual at the drag strip, but these same guys that I put bus-lengths on at the track will ride door to door with me in equal power cars. We are only using 3rd-5th in the faster cars, and launching skill doesn't factor in. TRACTION, horsepower, and gearing matter most. Those of us that have been doing this know what it takes to make the big hp cars stick at 60 mph with as much power down as possible. Throwing more hp at the traction problem never works better. It is about managing hp vs speed. Boost controllers, staged/progressive nitrous, traction control, many methods.
Turbos are definitely king, but nitrous cars run just fine when set up properly. If you go back and watch the night video I posted, that yellow Viper is TT and makes the same power as my N2O + blower car. My car only makes 900-950 on blower, the 200 shot put it into another league. N2O hits much harder, more area under the curve. I pulled away pretty well. But, I'll eventually go TT + N2O to reach 1300-1400.
I disagree. He's simply telling it how he sees it and from having been there myself(not the TX2k, but other racing in TX), he's right. As I said before, 800 is a STARTING POINT to be competitive with the big dogs and to really run with those at the top, you'll need more like double. These cars may play the radio, but they're no joke. They are specifically built for HIGH SPEED RACING and I'm serious when I tell you, breaking 160mph is common and it only takes seconds.
03-22-2014, 10:31 AM
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Driver skill isn't an issue when it comes to roll racing. I can drive better than most with a manual at the drag strip, but these same guys that I put bus-lengths on at the track will ride door to door with me in equal power cars. We are only using 3rd-5th in the faster cars, and launching skill doesn't factor in. TRACTION, horsepower, and gearing matter most. Those of us that have been doing this know what it takes to make the big hp cars stick at 60 mph with as much power down as possible. Throwing more hp at the traction problem never works better. It is about managing hp vs speed. Boost controllers, staged/progressive nitrous, traction control, many methods.
Turbos are definitely king, but nitrous cars run just fine when set up properly. If you go back and watch the night video I posted, that yellow Viper is TT and makes the same power as my N2O + blower car. My car only makes 900-950 on blower, the 200 shot put it into another league. N2O hits much harder, more area under the curve. I pulled away pretty well. But, I'll eventually go TT + N2O to reach 1300-1400.
800 would only be competitive against the slower cars from Houston, but good for all the temporary visitors. Not being mean, just straightforward. My car at 1200 rwhp can't even hang with the faster cars here. Except at the drag strip. I wouldn't even bother coming to TX2K to "race" if I had less than 800 whp.
Turbos are definitely king, but nitrous cars run just fine when set up properly. If you go back and watch the night video I posted, that yellow Viper is TT and makes the same power as my N2O + blower car. My car only makes 900-950 on blower, the 200 shot put it into another league. N2O hits much harder, more area under the curve. I pulled away pretty well. But, I'll eventually go TT + N2O to reach 1300-1400.
800 would only be competitive against the slower cars from Houston, but good for all the temporary visitors. Not being mean, just straightforward. My car at 1200 rwhp can't even hang with the faster cars here. Except at the drag strip. I wouldn't even bother coming to TX2K to "race" if I had less than 800 whp.
I agree, this is a great, reliable setup that will crack much ***.... and much cheaper then a $20-30k TT kit... And no waiting for the spray to come in.....And you can always put a progressive on it to ramp it in if you need to.
I've been kicking the idea of this around myself... Mine makes about the same power as your viper on blower (well, 900 only for me), I thought about a 150 shot as well... My blower combo is science out pretty well and reliable, I hate to mess with it and create problems... Another 150-200 hp worth of spray would be nice though..
Like you said, its a whole different level past 1050-1100hp.. 
awesome vids
03-22-2014, 12:20 PM
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They're saying that sub 800 won't compete against the big dawgs with 12-1300... So I guess, yeah, they're not competitive. A 700hp Mustang or F-body simply won't stand a chance against an 1100hp Vette.
Sure, there are other factors to consider such as driver skill, traction etc. etc.
But generally speaking, no, they're not gonna stand a chance.
What they AREN'T saying is that ALL the cars in the area are that fast. Just the big guys on the videos. You can find all kinds of races at the lower levels of power. But that's not usually what people are interested in. Most people doing this kinda thing want to be at the top, IMPO.
Sure, there are other factors to consider such as driver skill, traction etc. etc.
But generally speaking, no, they're not gonna stand a chance.
What they AREN'T saying is that ALL the cars in the area are that fast. Just the big guys on the videos. You can find all kinds of races at the lower levels of power. But that's not usually what people are interested in. Most people doing this kinda thing want to be at the top, IMPO.
03-22-2014, 05:09 PM
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Trust me, I agree. But everyone would LIKE to be on top. This whole conversation started because I want to compete with the top dogs. That's all this thing was about. So they told me what it would take to compete on that particular level. Granted, I already knew what it would take, but it's an entertaining conversation nonetheless. And that's the whole point IMO.
03-22-2014, 05:33 PM
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