Surprising run against an 03 Termi
#61
So it was heater lawhead right? You sure are hormonal like a woman.
You know someones an awesome builder when my scooter traps more than his H/C/I v8 car in the 1/4.
Yeah i and several of my friends are down to race for $. Unlike you, i have friends tho lmao. I don't chill on here all day chasing around hio. sicklyfe
You know someones an awesome builder when my scooter traps more than his H/C/I v8 car in the 1/4.
Yeah i and several of my friends are down to race for $. Unlike you, i have friends tho lmao. I don't chill on here all day chasing around hio. sicklyfe
Ricer math FTW!
Do you and your friends take pics of each other at the gym like you posted before? Talk about lifts and gains and facial aesthetics of other dudes? My friends and I don't talk about any of that ****, you got me there
Do you have GTA4? If so, you can race your fourwheeler against one of my cars on there...that's about as relevant as you asking to race cars in real life with a quad
#62
It don't take a 100 shot to beat beat a pullied cobra. They are are low 12sec cars with a basic pulley tune catback ....high 11's with a tire. Not out of bolt-on ls1 territory by any means. A 100 shot should out run even a ported eaton car.
You're right.......I have no experience with these cars. Never did bolt-ons to mine or helped on anyone else's. I have no ******* clue........seems nonsense that I'm the only bolt-on type car goin for 10's in the Eat Crow challenge.
+1 on the kooks! Get you fast intake and do full 3.5" exhaust where your y comes together back. 3.73 gears, about 200lb of weight reduction, udp and a good light clutch. You'll be right with him or maybe out run him. I would not want to bet on that race.
I've helped make them go 110 with free mods only. I went 109 with just a granitelli mass air and a lid not very good day and a **** 60'. Your car is capable of 110 with decent track prep and driving.
You're right.......I have no experience with these cars. Never did bolt-ons to mine or helped on anyone else's. I have no ******* clue........seems nonsense that I'm the only bolt-on type car goin for 10's in the Eat Crow challenge.
+1 on the kooks! Get you fast intake and do full 3.5" exhaust where your y comes together back. 3.73 gears, about 200lb of weight reduction, udp and a good light clutch. You'll be right with him or maybe out run him. I would not want to bet on that race.
I've helped make them go 110 with free mods only. I went 109 with just a granitelli mass air and a lid not very good day and a **** 60'. Your car is capable of 110 with decent track prep and driving.
Now lets be honest here man.. your car isn't a bolt-on car or even a bolt-on type car by any means. Your motor is not the original motor for that car neither are the heads or the cam. They never made any F-body cars that came with a LS6 motor. To even compare the 2 is ridicules! That motor was designed for a Corvette (at the time) super car making 50HP or more than any other stock LS1 motor. I know some cars had LS6 block in them with LS6 intakes. I know cause my car originally had an LS6 block and intake in it. So your claim of having a stock bolt on car isn’t the case.
Last edited by odarabla; 03-20-2014 at 12:44 PM.
#63
Sorry guys I don't take into account **** driving or **** mods as to the potential of the car. I have more than proved what they are capable of.......and what I said is right on par if all is right. But you go right ahead thinking the car is why your slow if it makes ya feel better.
It's just like guys out here shoving cams in these cars. No one has any business ******* with a cam until their car goes 11's with bolt-ons......period
How much do you guys think a modern fuel injected engine varies? 1%??? 3%?? 5%??
I'm goin with 1% or less if all is right. 1% would be like 9hp variance on these cars. That seems like alot to me if all is equal.
It's just like guys out here shoving cams in these cars. No one has any business ******* with a cam until their car goes 11's with bolt-ons......period
How much do you guys think a modern fuel injected engine varies? 1%??? 3%?? 5%??
I'm goin with 1% or less if all is right. 1% would be like 9hp variance on these cars. That seems like alot to me if all is equal.
What's next man? I'm on your case now because your comments are not only insulting to me but to every LS1 F-body car owner out there that hasn't ran 11's on a stock bolt-on motor!!
Last edited by odarabla; 03-20-2014 at 12:46 PM.
#65
Really man? My car didn't go 11's with bolt-ons before I went H/C/I!! I went a best of 12.6@107mph with my bolt-on car. Picked up a full second from stock. Went 10.90@123mph with H/C/I. What does that say? Your logic isn't logic at all and it's almost impossible to get a full weight bolt-on LS1 in the 11's without messing with something else!! Rocker arm change does not count as a bolt-on cause you have to go in the motor to change them out!
What's next man? I'm on your case now because your comments are not only insulting to me but to every LS1 F-body car owner out there that hasn't ran 11's on a stock bolt-on motor!!
What's next man? I'm on your case now because your comments are not only insulting to me but to every LS1 F-body car owner out there that hasn't ran 11's on a stock bolt-on motor!!
#66
Those MAS meters were junk btw!!
Now lets be honest here man.. your car isn't a bolt-on car or even a bolt-on type car by any means. Your motor is not the original motor for that car neither are the heads or the cam. They never made any F-body cars that came with a LS6 motor. To even compare the 2 is ridicules! That motor was designed for a Corvette (at the time) super car making 50HP or more than any other stock LS1 motor. I know some cars had LS6 block in them with LS6 intakes. I know cause my car originally had an LS6 block and intake in it. So your claim of having a stock bolt on car isn’t the case.
Now lets be honest here man.. your car isn't a bolt-on car or even a bolt-on type car by any means. Your motor is not the original motor for that car neither are the heads or the cam. They never made any F-body cars that came with a LS6 motor. To even compare the 2 is ridicules! That motor was designed for a Corvette (at the time) super car making 50HP or more than any other stock LS1 motor. I know some cars had LS6 block in them with LS6 intakes. I know cause my car originally had an LS6 block and intake in it. So your claim of having a stock bolt on car isn’t the case.
Actually they made 69 ls6 camaros.
Yes....a ls6 makes 50-60 hp more than a ls1.
Really man? My car didn't go 11's with bolt-ons before I went H/C/I!! I went a best of 12.6@107mph with my bolt-on car. Picked up a full second from stock. Went 10.90@123mph with H/C/I. What does that say? Your logic isn't logic at all and it's almost impossible to get a full weight bolt-on LS1 in the 11's without messing with something else!! Rocker arm change does not count as a bolt-on cause you have to go in the motor to change them out!
What's next man? I'm on your case now because your comments are not only insulting to me but to every LS1 F-body car owner out there that hasn't ran 11's on a stock bolt-on motor!!
What's next man? I'm on your case now because your comments are not only insulting to me but to every LS1 F-body car owner out there that hasn't ran 11's on a stock bolt-on motor!!
Who gives a **** about full weight? Once you start modding the car is not full weight. A aftermarket lid is lighter than the factory induction, headers and ory ar lighter than factory ex mani's and cats.
Rocker arm changes are a bolt-on imo.....negotiable sure......or at least they used to be to the old fox body stangs. It's not like they make a 20whp difference.
With the parts pieces and knowledge available today there is NO reason a bolt-on car should not run 11's before any engine mods.
#67
Your scooter trapped 104? My shitty 95 trapped 106. Mathy math math. Remember we went over this last time? You listed 329 excuses as to why it didn't trap 110 like it "should"? You don't think my 95 had more in it with any cam other than the one it had? Mismatched **** galore on my last car, but I'm not in here saying the sun was in my eyes.
Ricer math FTW!
Do you and your friends take pics of each other at the gym like you posted before? Talk about lifts and gains and facial aesthetics of other dudes? My friends and I don't talk about any of that ****, you got me there
Do you have GTA4? If so, you can race your fourwheeler against one of my cars on there...that's about as relevant as you asking to race cars in real life with a quad
Ricer math FTW!
Do you and your friends take pics of each other at the gym like you posted before? Talk about lifts and gains and facial aesthetics of other dudes? My friends and I don't talk about any of that ****, you got me there
Do you have GTA4? If so, you can race your fourwheeler against one of my cars on there...that's about as relevant as you asking to race cars in real life with a quad
#68
You actually race? GTA, bro, my Turismo GT vs. your quad.
#70
I don't try to sell my car as a bolt-on ls1 car. It is a bolt on ls6 in a camaro. It really is just that simple
Actually they made 69 ls6 camaros.
Yes....a ls6 makes 50-60 hp more than a ls1.
Then you should've kept working on your bolt-on set up if it didn't go 11's. That is very good logic because there are plenty in the 11's. Notch and I put his m6 bolt-on car in the 11's. fourpoint just went a 12.4 with simple mods. My car went 12.6 @ almost 113 with very mild bolt-ons. I never got to finish it cause my bud blew up my ls1.....hence the ls6.
Who gives a **** about full weight? Once you start modding the car is not full weight. A aftermarket lid is lighter than the factory induction, headers and ory ar lighter than factory ex mani's and cats.
Rocker arm changes are a bolt-on imo.....negotiable sure......or at least they used to be to the old fox body stangs. It's not like they make a 20whp difference.
With the parts pieces and knowledge available today there is NO reason a bolt-on car should not run 11's before any engine mods.
Actually they made 69 ls6 camaros.
Yes....a ls6 makes 50-60 hp more than a ls1.
Then you should've kept working on your bolt-on set up if it didn't go 11's. That is very good logic because there are plenty in the 11's. Notch and I put his m6 bolt-on car in the 11's. fourpoint just went a 12.4 with simple mods. My car went 12.6 @ almost 113 with very mild bolt-ons. I never got to finish it cause my bud blew up my ls1.....hence the ls6.
Who gives a **** about full weight? Once you start modding the car is not full weight. A aftermarket lid is lighter than the factory induction, headers and ory ar lighter than factory ex mani's and cats.
Rocker arm changes are a bolt-on imo.....negotiable sure......or at least they used to be to the old fox body stangs. It's not like they make a 20whp difference.
With the parts pieces and knowledge available today there is NO reason a bolt-on car should not run 11's before any engine mods.
Wrong!! They never put a LS6 engine in a F-body Camaro from the factory. They put the LS6 block in some and all 2001-2002 F-body cars came with the LS6 intake. The LS6 block is different then the entire engine. The cam is still a LS1 cam and the heads were 241 heads vs 243 LS6 heads! you have to pull the valve covers to change rocker arms. That is considered going into the engine. Bolt-ons mean anything you can bolt-on to the motor with out breaking into the engine and exposing it's internal parts. As far as how much more power the rocker arms change can make? I think it depends on the current mods. Change rocker arms from say a 1.7 rocker to a 1.8 rocker increases the lift to the cam, which in turns makes more power!!
I can put all the best bolt-ons onto any Stock F-body LS1 car and have god tune it himself and it would be hard to run 11"s on it's best day! And that's realistic!! Do the math. It's physics man.
Your ET / MPH computed from your vehicle weight of 3500 pounds and HP of 400 is 12.00 seconds and MPH of 111.62 MPH.
See what I'm getting at here? It takes 400hp to move a 3500lb car to a 12.00@111.62mph You know any bolt-on LS1's making 400hp? Maybe a cam only car but not any stock LS1's..
#71
Edumacate you self oda
http://www.superchevy.com/features/c...n/viewall.html
Stop goin by calculators to. Notch and I put his ls1 car in the 11's....11.96 @ 116.xx and the car did not even have headers. Actually was not even a clean run in the car. I drove it and they had beat on the t56 enough earlier it was nicked up a bit. I took my time shifting. Quicker shifts and the car could have went e 11.8 easily. That car made 340 whp and weighed 3200lb. @ 15% drivetrain loss what does that get you for crank hp oda?....please do tell
Not uncommon for full bolt-on ls1's to go over 360whp.....so yea 11's are cake if you know what you're doin or have researched what others have done.
It is not that hard to get these cars in the 11's.
http://www.superchevy.com/features/c...n/viewall.html
Stop goin by calculators to. Notch and I put his ls1 car in the 11's....11.96 @ 116.xx and the car did not even have headers. Actually was not even a clean run in the car. I drove it and they had beat on the t56 enough earlier it was nicked up a bit. I took my time shifting. Quicker shifts and the car could have went e 11.8 easily. That car made 340 whp and weighed 3200lb. @ 15% drivetrain loss what does that get you for crank hp oda?....please do tell
Not uncommon for full bolt-on ls1's to go over 360whp.....so yea 11's are cake if you know what you're doin or have researched what others have done.
It is not that hard to get these cars in the 11's.
Last edited by HioSSilver; 03-20-2014 at 04:10 PM.
#72
Edumacate you self oda
http://www.superchevy.com/features/c...n/viewall.html
Stop goin by calculators to. Notch and I put his ls1 car in the 11's....11.96 @ 116.xx and the car did not even have headers. Actually was not even a clean run in the car. I drove it and they had beat on the t56 enough earlier it was nicked up a bit. I took my time shifting. Quicker shifts and the car could have went e 11.8 easily. That car made 340 whp and weighed 3200lb.
It is not that hard to get these cars in the 11's.
http://www.superchevy.com/features/c...n/viewall.html
Stop goin by calculators to. Notch and I put his ls1 car in the 11's....11.96 @ 116.xx and the car did not even have headers. Actually was not even a clean run in the car. I drove it and they had beat on the t56 enough earlier it was nicked up a bit. I took my time shifting. Quicker shifts and the car could have went e 11.8 easily. That car made 340 whp and weighed 3200lb.
It is not that hard to get these cars in the 11's.
Straight from your artical!!
Seat Time
SUPER CHEVY was fortunate enough to be given the keys to the one-and-only prototype '02 ZL1 for a couple weeks of fun and evaluation. Each one of the three staff members that spent time behind the wheel walked away with a respect for the LS1 drivetrain and the car itself (Mike Petralia wasn't given the keys because he was still being punished for monopolizing the '02 SS convertible a few months back).
You done? You are slowly losing my respect with this crap man. I love the f-body cars but you often take things to the extream..
BTW I've never seen a bolt-on LS1 make 360rwhp.. If I'm wrong please someone else come in here and share. Please!!
#75
#76
Wrong again! Come on Hio!! You pulling at straws!! The car was a prototype and was never produced..
Straight from your artical!!
Seat Time
SUPER CHEVY was fortunate enough to be given the keys to the one-and-only prototype '02 ZL1 for a couple weeks of fun and evaluation. Each one of the three staff members that spent time behind the wheel walked away with a respect for the LS1 drivetrain and the car itself (Mike Petralia wasn't given the keys because he was still being punished for monopolizing the '02 SS convertible a few months back).
You done? You are slowly losing my respect with this crap man. I love the f-body cars but you often take things to the extream..
BTW I've never seen a bolt-on LS1 make 360rwhp.. If I'm wrong please someone else come in here and share. Please!!
Straight from your artical!!
Seat Time
SUPER CHEVY was fortunate enough to be given the keys to the one-and-only prototype '02 ZL1 for a couple weeks of fun and evaluation. Each one of the three staff members that spent time behind the wheel walked away with a respect for the LS1 drivetrain and the car itself (Mike Petralia wasn't given the keys because he was still being punished for monopolizing the '02 SS convertible a few months back).
You done? You are slowly losing my respect with this crap man. I love the f-body cars but you often take things to the extream..
BTW I've never seen a bolt-on LS1 make 360rwhp.. If I'm wrong please someone else come in here and share. Please!!
https://ls1tech.com/forums/racers-lo...ngine-etc.html
If notch's car made 340rwhp w/o headers, on the stock tune, ls6 intake with a udp.....don't you think a fast intake and a set of headers and a tunewould pick it up 20hp??....add a ewp on that.
We agree that a ls6 makes 50-60 more hp. My full bolt-on ls6 would make 430 or a touch better on a dynojet. What is 430- 60 for you smart guys out there?
Here's a guy that made 357whp......In that thread I laid out another easy 10hp for him. What 357+10? I'll let you do the math. But like most he would rather put a cam in it than eek out the last hp's.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...1-results.html
There is nothing extreme about it oda. Uncommon??? Possibly....but that's not my problem. My problem is getting the **** I have to perform.
Last edited by HioSSilver; 03-20-2014 at 05:43 PM.
#77
What are you laughing at? I'm laying it all out for you how to do it.
#78