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Old 03-19-2014, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by OneSlowV
I'm not to far from you if you wanna run a proper running 5.0
yes yes yes !




SMH I can't believe I'm rooting for the ford lol
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Originally Posted by 62nalide
I just find it odd that his car runs so well in the weather conditions but on C5 he says DA is killing the 5.0's time yet he runs very well fishy
He's a sketchy ****** as far as I can tell. Lol
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I learned from C5 that **** DA doesn't matter, DA corrected times are legit times.
Old 03-19-2014, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
I learned from C5 that **** DA doesn't matter, DA corrected times are legit times.
C5 is full of it
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Originally Posted by 62nalide
C5 is full of it
And then some...that site blows
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
Well driven a manual ls1 in good weather should at least trap 106... My worst trap was a 103 and that was 3200DA and a very bad launch, missed 3rd and coasted (ran a 16 something). The rest of my runs that day were 104-105 that day. Even with my pathetic *** driving in good weather it went 107 as a worst and 108 as a best... FRA got me 109 traps.

Hell nearly every a4 ls1 car I've seen at Cordova (friends who owned them not just random cars) has managed 105 traps.

Of course I do know of a 98 car for whatever reason was lucky to trap 103... One guy eventually had to fix his knock sensors and found the rocker needle? bearings in the oil pan.


No. All 5.bros running 12.4 is like saying every fbody runs 12.8. I won't deny it's happened but to make it seem like every car off the lot can run the same is insane.
Yup. No disputing the 5.0 is faster. I have raced one and it pulled on me. I have LTs and GMMG and it was as loud as my car, but I doubt it was more than bolt ons. Definitely faster. However, saying 5.0s run 12.4 at 116 is the same as F-bodies running 107+ is a joke. 110+ stock would be the correct comparison IMO. Apparently it has happened, but I've never seen an F-body run that stock.
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Originally Posted by 4PointSlow
Sup, 5.bro? Or should I saw 5.slow?
You're from the northeast....
I'm not. Haha.
Also switching to a rear end with 3.90s, current setup has 3.73s. The rear ends making noise and about to go out so swapping in another. Wonder if it will be any faster?
Probably 118 trap with those 3.90's. Those LS1's!

Originally Posted by 4PointSlow
He likes the D from automatic ls1 owners. Black ones.
Hold on, working on the LS3 swap as we speak. Need to drop some weight too... to make up for the lower trap after the new motor.

Originally Posted by toslow5o
I'm down if you're near Cincy/Dayton Ohio. Not that I expect to win but I won't turn down the chance. You would probably put me at 3 and 3 with the new 5.Os
That'd be fun! I'm in NE though, so we're a bit far apart, but I appreciate the fact you accepted. It's rare with all of the Internet BS.

Originally Posted by Heater
The gauntlet has been thrown down, let's see if any LS1's on LS1tech accept
TRASHCAN did last fall, and that was fun, but no one else did.
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If you were in Minnesota I would run ya, still have not had the pleasure of running one on the street and have not seen one run better than 13 flat at my track, I run 13.2 @ 107 Lt, ory, tune, stock cat back, a4 with 2.73s, I now have 3.73s but not slip with them
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Originally Posted by BlackGasGuzzler
Probably 118 trap with those 3.90's. Those LS1's!


Hold on, working on the LS3 swap as we speak. Need to drop some weight too... to make up for the lower trap after the new motor.


That'd be fun! I'm in NE though, so we're a bit far apart, but I appreciate the fact you accepted. It's rare with all of the Internet BS.


TRASHCAN did last fall, and that was fun, but no one else did.

But but the ls3 is such a better motor
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z


No. All 5.bros running 12.4 is like saying every fbody runs 12.8. I won't deny it's happened but to make it seem like every car off the lot can run the same is insane.
This is the exact point that I was attempting to make. Both sets of fanboys tend to get a bit carried away.
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Oval that is classic!
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Exactly... I've said it a million times... A weak 5.0 could lose to a strong ls1... Chances are not good but it's possible. (That's considering optimal conditions and good drivers in each) The automatic dismissals just drive me nuts...
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I don't see the big deal in 113 trap? Friend with y pipe only 6 speed camaro ss on bigs and littles did 12.7 @ 113 mph with a 2.0 60 foot and "I'm not going to break my rear end" shifting.
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Originally Posted by 4PointSlow
I don't see the big deal in 113 trap? Friend with y pipe only 6 speed camaro ss on bigs and littles did 12.7 @ 113 mph with a 2.0 60 foot and "I'm not going to break my rear end" shifting.
So does the car have cats or not? I remember a while ago in your sig it sat no cats.


I'm not doubting this is impossible just a little out of the ordinary. There are always cars that will run better and cars that will run worse. It's a Z28 too so it should be fairly light.


That being said wouldn't be surprised if it had an LS6 cam though. A local guy had a similar car to yours and did 113 with similar mods to yours. Later on he found out the previous owner had installed an LS6 cam.


Either way good running car.
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Originally Posted by LS1rob00
So does the car have cats or not? I remember a while ago in your sig it sat no cats.


I'm not doubting this is impossible just a little out of the ordinary. There are always cars that will run better and cars that will run worse. It's a Z28 too so it should be fairly light.


That being said wouldn't be surprised if it had an LS6 cam though. A local guy had a similar car to yours and did 113 with similar mods to yours. Later on he found out the previous owner had installed an LS6 cam.


Either way good running car.
I don't have cats, thought that was mentioned earlier... guess not.

Thanks.

Before and after tune.



My dyno compared to friends 1999 Camaro SS with ls6 intake, full exhaust, udp, ported tb. Look at the x intercept for both cars.
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PS my car weighed 3430 lbs with me in it.

Car weighs 110 lbs less than my friend's c5 auto vette.

I have Competition engineering 3 way drag shocks set at 50/50 rear, lower control arms, panhard bar, weld-in subframe connectors.

Car is good for 12.2-12.3 on tire.... did 12.4 on all season street tires. With 3.90s it should run a little harder.
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113 mph is a big deal for an auto. And you don't gain anything going with 390s with a stock cam and converter. First mod should be a converter and then tires.
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Originally Posted by 4PointSlow
PS my car weighed 3430 lbs with me in it.

Car weighs 110 lbs less than my friend's c5 auto vette.

I have Competition engineering 3 way drag shocks set at 50/50 rear, lower control arms, panhard bar, weld-in subframe connectors.

Car is good for 12.2-12.3 on tire.... did 12.4 on all season street tires. With 3.90s it should run a little harder.
Damn that's light... I was 3370lbs curb and 3525 with me in it last I checked (full tank)

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Originally Posted by 4PointSlow
Sup, 5.bro? Or should I saw 5.slow?

You're from the northeast....

I'm not. Haha.

Also switching to a rear end with 3.90s, current setup has 3.73s. The rear ends making noise and about to go out so swapping in another. Wonder if it will be any faster?
Do not put 3.90's in it.
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:yawn: same old arguments


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