Originally Posted by big hammer

it's 2014 and that 5.0 still hasn't proved anything against a car from 1998. sad.

Originally Posted by big hammer

geez that's sad. poor 5.br0's.

Originally Posted by big hammer

still waiting for a stock or bolt on 5.br0 to show me whats up.

Originally Posted by big hammer

it's 2014 and that 5.0 still hasn't proved anything against a car from 1998. sad.

Originally Posted by big hammer

geez that's sad. poor 5.br0's.

Originally Posted by big hammer

still waiting for a stock or bolt on 5.br0 to show me whats up.

Originally Posted by TitanTransAm

x2...

Originally Posted by big hammer

camel humps with a 3\4 race cam, eldebrock high rise intake and an m22 rockcrusher with 3.73 posi track rear end with 50's on it.

Originally Posted by adamantium

Lol potatobrah in da house

Originally Posted by It'llrun

The LS1 is like 30yrs newer than the 351W and still hasn't caught up... Is that a win for GM?
No? Then it's even worse when we remember it hasn't caught up to the 4.6L either! Hence, GM moved on and you should too, because it's intelligent.

Yup... innovation, technology, whatever... Better.

Please! Not to mention the 3060 lb race weight, the quickest LS1 on the list you boys are discussing is the one with a TH400... That's just a little likely to be better for drag racing than a 4L60E or the Ford auto 6. How many of those Mustangs are using a C4? None, of course. Think how much faster they'd be with that swap.

Like I said, the LS1 is great, but GM knew better was available. Now it's time you figure it out and stop beating on the dead horse that is "LS1" because it won't matter how long you beat it, GM has better things to discuss. Besides, real races aren't limited to "what you like" and that means, since power adders have been around longer than you have, N/A doesn't even remotely matter in the world or racing. All it will ever be for the rest of time is... an "also ran."

Originally Posted by odarabla

4L60E is faster because of its gearing than the th400 or the th350..

Originally Posted by wbt

Very broad statement without specifics. The reality is it depends on the application.

Gearing isn't the only consideration and shouldn't be the sole basis for such a statement.

Originally Posted by odarabla

Take any LS -f-body that had the 4L60E in it and run it at the track. Pull the tranny and put a th350-th400 in it and rerun the car. The times will be slower. I know I did the testing in my car. Wasn't the same night but very similar conditions and the car just couldn't leave as hard anymore. Bigger first and second gear in the th350 slowed my car down. I am still running the same th350 in my car and run in the 9's but cannot find a 4L60E to hold the power for more than a few months.

Originally Posted by It'llrun

I'm glad you did it, saving time for the rest of us. He clearly has no idea that many of us were around and actually driving these cars when they were new. He's coming in on the heels of the platform, having the opportunity to simply throw parts at it, because people like us did all the testing 15yrs ago...

That's the big problem with being a youngster in this kind of car... you may not realize that nearly EVERYBODY you're telling stories to, has been there and done that... while you wore diapers.

People question this kid and he makes like... HoHo, telling everyone this is all normal. Like I said early on, he may not even know what mods were done before he got the car. It's not like it was new at the time.

Originally Posted by wbt

It's really a shame we aren't closer to each other. I wouldn't hesitate to embarrass you at the track and post the video for all to see.

I'm beginning to think you are ~15 yo.

Originally Posted by adamantium

Lol itll run is the definition of un sapingo

Originally Posted by TitanTransAm

So much Ford butthurt in here. All of you 5.bro fanboys just refuse to believe that a 15+ year old Camaro is this quick with such little work done to it. Quicker than a 5.bro, a MODIFIED 5.bro at that. Can't blame the diver either, because how hard is it to drive an almost stock automatic car with DR's? And there is nothing out of the ordinary here at all. OP just has a car that has been well maintained and probably not beat to hell and back it's entire life. My mild bolt on, daily driving A4 LS1 whoops bolt on 5.bro's by more than OP did in his video. I remember laughing my *** off once when one of them asked me what Heads/Cam package I was running. Boy did he end up feeling stupid. Again, because the car has been well maintained and not abused. Anyone who believes that the 5.bro is leaps and bounds above the LS1 F-body is on a new level of ignorance. Anyway, let the butthurt continue.

Originally Posted by big hammer

Bolt on 5.0's are nothing to worry about.

Originally Posted by big hammer

Bolt on 5.0's are nothing to worry about.

Originally Posted by wbt

Did you change the rear gear to compensate for the different planetary ratios when you made the swap?

Also, one has a lockup TC and the other doesn't. Many factors at play outside of just the trans ratios.

Originally Posted by odarabla

There was no need to swap the rear gear. Already had a 4.11 gear in the car and was limited to how much spray I could use. Rev limiter was set at 7200rpm and was crossing the gate at around 6600-6800rpm on a dry 125hp shot at that time. Everything else was the same. Car just didn't Leave as good as with the 4L60E. And nothing was wrong with it either cause the same tranny and converter is sitting behind my new engine. The car went 10.39@130mph N/A right off the trailer with the engine that's in it now. Bet I could shave a couple tenths off with a good running 4L60E.