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Old 05-05-2014, 07:58 AM
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i bet if that TA was Y-pipe only it would've won...
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I have gone low 13s in a stock stick mach. Traps were 105ish. In my experience Ls has advantage up top. With mods the gap increases. Automachs are dogs. Seen lots of bolt on Machs run mid 12s.
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
I have gone low 13s in a stock stick mach. Traps were 105ish. In my experience Ls has advantage up top. With mods the gap increases. Automachs are dogs. Seen lots of bolt on Machs run mid 12s.
I bet that was back in your younger days when you had good stick skillz.
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4pointselfie responds 4 times in a row to frantically attempt to convince the world that Machs aren't that great.
Man oh man that's funny
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Having owned both an 01 Z28 and 04 Mach 1, I can honestly say that they are a good race for each other. It really depends on who has more when the two cross paths.
In the past 7 or 8 months, I have posted up 3 runs with bolt-on 4th Gen Camaros.
One was an A4 Bolt-on z28. We did 3 rolls from 40 and each time I pulled 1.5 -2 cars on him.
Recently, I also ran my buddy's (GTOSPD) bolt-on 01 SS Convertible. The first time we ran, we were dead even up to about 120mph. We ran twice with the same outcome both from 40 rolls.
Two weeks later, he put 3" exhaust on his car and had it re-tuned. When we ran again and he pulled me when we hit 4th gear. His car was quick for sure! (Vids are on LS1Tech)

Just saying that the two cars are close enough that depending on the modification done will determine the outcome. Of course, with the larger 5.7l motor as compared to 4.6l, when the number of bolt-ons increase, the scale will tip towards the LS1.
With that said though, this still does not take into consideration the driver or traction. If the higher Hp Camaro is not properly driven or traction is an issue, the two are close enough where a slight spin will change the outcome. Just my opinion though..

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Old 05-05-2014, 11:41 AM
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Lol yes its hard to powershift with a cane Islander.

Last pass in a Mach three years ago At 75/80. Full exhaust with drs but stock tune which is a huge nono. 13.0.108.
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Originally Posted by snake95

4pointselfie responds 4 times in a row to frantically attempt to convince the world that Machs aren't that great.
Man oh man that's funny
How old is this selfie-master? Begging for attention like that is pretty sad.
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Originally Posted by OneSlowV
5.0>32V>ls1.bros
Lmao.
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
Mach1>32v>ls1.. 5.bros were all too busy beating off in a corner to make the list.


Fixt
Lmao even more! I think I peed a little on that one.
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Originally Posted by 4PointSlow
Where are all these fast mach's??? Because the fastest one I have ran was cammed with full bolt ons and an auto mach that did 12.0 @ 110 mph to my 12.5 @ 111 mph same day. I can post up the timeslips.

I was on tire, but I don't have a stall.... I have the stock converter. I dont have headers, I have the stock ls1 cam, stock intake manifold, stock diamater ported tb, I don't even have a y pipe.

He had a stall and cams, tb, full exhaust, gears, slicks and skinnies, etc.


I'm failing to see how it is faster or can even can compete with well modified and driven f bodies??????
Don't be retarded, take the fanboi blinders off man. While I agree, the majority of the time, the LS will have the upper hand, you can't sleep on them. They are definitely capable of impressive performance, whether you've personally witnessed it or not.
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Originally Posted by 4PointSlow
cammed/stalled/gears/full suspension/slicks and skinnies/full bolt ons. I have a ported tb, 3.73s, tune, skinnies, lower control arms, and an slp lid.
And ram air...and you are a twig, no offense.
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Originally Posted by MACHXLR8
Good run.
Mach's are very similar to GTs of that year..Really not to much difference. You should of had more cars on that stang.
lol.....

Easy answer. Machs mid 13s stock and LS1s mid 13s stock. Cars are roughly equal. All that said i would give the edge to the LS1 but could go either way.
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Originally Posted by 4PointSlow
I ran one with 4.10's, x pipe, tune in my v6 accord and lost by a car length. That mach went 13.7 @ 104 mph.

Lol
Stock Mach 1's have run better... Maybe you're thinking of the automatic. Kinda sorta exactly like the 2010 Camaro, the auto version was definitely hurt when compared to the manual.

I didn't know the accord ran sub 14's... really... didn't know it.
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Originally Posted by snake95

4pointselfie responds 4 times in a row to frantically attempt to convince the world that Machs aren't that great.
Man oh man that's funny
Originally Posted by Irunelevens
How old is this selfie-master? Begging for attention like that is pretty sad.
Such a frenzy.
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Originally Posted by It'llrun
Stock Mach 1's have run better... Maybe you're thinking of the automatic. Kinda sorta exactly like the 2010 Camaro, the auto version was definitely hurt when compared to the manual.

I didn't know the accord ran sub 14's... really... didn't know it.
I wouldn't really say the L99 was slower. With the right mods its a low 12s even a high 11s car. Must 6spd guys struggle to get into the 12s lol.
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Lol at 4.butthurt
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Man lol
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Originally Posted by It'llrun
Stock Mach 1's have run better... Maybe you're thinking of the automatic. Kinda sorta exactly like the 2010 Camaro, the auto version was definitely hurt when compared to the manual.

I didn't know the accord ran sub 14's... really... didn't know it.
This is my friends(only an earlier 3.0 liter) accord v6 6 speed. He has bolt ons and no tune.


So being butt hurt is stating the facts? Hahahha sounds like someones getting upset that the facts don't coincide with their opinion.
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Originally Posted by OneSlowV
I wouldn't really say the L99 was slower. With the right mods its a low 12s even a high 11s car. Must 6spd guys struggle to get into the 12s lol.
Iirc the auto Mach 1 benefits from a tune in a similar fashion. It's stock form that wasn't as potent.
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
Iirc the auto Mach 1 benefits from a tune in a similar fashion. It's stock form that wasn't as potent.
Yeah no doubt the GM A6 in the camaro is one nice shifting tranny though.


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