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Old 06-02-2014, 10:53 PM
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Don't stop now. I want my turbo car to go faster.
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Originally Posted by bh353
Ok..don't take this the wrong way,because im not trying to make someone look like an idiot...you fill a glass A half full of water and then you fill glass b full of water...which one has more displacement? The glass may not be physically more displacement in size,but the static displacement will be more with the higher volume of water..
It wouldn't be static, it would be dynamic. Also boost is not a measure of performance. It's volumetric efficiency that makes the power. Boost is just the restriction on that given setup so coming in here with your ricer math you probably got from corvetteforums and trying to act like the resident expert is laughable. Look at it like this. You have two cars with the same 370ci motor and drivetrain. Everything is identical except the turbo setup. Car A has a pt7675 and car B has twin pt6766's. Both push 15lbs on the same fuel, timing, afr, etc. Do they make the same power? No. Do their power bands look similar. No. Do they theoretically have the same dynamic displacement. No.

Listen, I don't profess to know everything, I can tell you that I comfortably know more about FI than yourself. Not trying to make a dig at you but please just stop.

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Ok..serious question...do you know why people with forced induction use race gas or e85? Most forced injection engines have a 9.0 to 9.5 compression ratio to increase volume in the combustion chamber and also to combat detonation..A lot of people think race gace gives them more power which is false..All it does is combats detonation due to higher combustion temps..
Although I will agree that racegas and e85 do not make power directly, but the end product is giving you a higher ceiling to push more boost and timing. Yeah you can make a few whp just on the added octane but to take advantage of those fuels you increase boost and also add timing. Racegas having a higher octane helps during combustion to eat up those temps. E85 does a similar thing but with it being an ethanol based fuel it has far more cooling properties in the cylinder during ignition at the cost of a stoichiometric ratio of 9.7 compared to gasoline type fuels at 14.7.
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Old 06-03-2014, 08:30 AM
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Wait, hold on... Race gas doesn't give me more powers? I've been spending $8 a gallon for nothing?!?!?!
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you are talking about a 230rwhp car stock. sorry man BS flag unless you raced a V6.

even ls6 intake CAI and open exhaust headers arent going to get you to 370-400rwhp you'll need.
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Old 06-03-2014, 01:17 PM
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how in the hell did i miss this gem!? and apparently laws of physics don't work in BH's world. LOL at boost increasing an engine's displacement. Hold on, throwing a turbo on my motor so that my stroke and cylinders grow...
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Old 06-03-2014, 02:47 PM
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Custom EPS cam, Ported LS6 intake, Trick Flow CNC 205cc heads, 10.6 CR, LS6 ported oil pump, Katech C5-R timing chain, DT headers, 3" into dual 2.5" Magnaflow exhaust.
Lowered 2.5", 275/40/18 Hankook V12 tires, 20% tint
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12.55@113.12 w/1.97 60ft. No tuning after head swap. 3865 race weight

note the weight and track time.


275 FWHP; DiabLew Tune|Big *** Tranny Cooler|TEP valvebody|low-stall converter|TransGo Shift Kit|CAI|catless dp|3" catback w/Spintech mufflers|CSP Catch-Can|Morimoto HID projectors|Custom Brake Cooling Ducts|Rigid 30" LED Light bar|Optima Red Top|NGK TR6ix Plugs


Ls6 im, Ls1 tb, Ls7 Maf,Built trans,3.29 gears 2800 stall 3/4 pan spacer,accel coil packs,Dt headers,Gxp brakes, Brembo Drilled Rotors, Custom 3in no cat into magnaflows, Zzp lca's,Don rom stb's and fender braces, Bilsteins, Ssc, sway bar,Bmr rear control arms & trailing arms,Hp Tuned,Black depo head lights,Led tails,Full custom led dash lights
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so around 310-320 rwhp and 3750lbs.

had to have been a V6 mustang. even a coyote peddling it can murder that.
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Originally Posted by assasinator
note the weight and track time.


275 FWHP; DiabLew Tune|Big *** Tranny Cooler|TEP valvebody|low-stall converter|TransGo Shift Kit|CAI|catless dp|3" catback w/Spintech mufflers|CSP Catch-Can|Morimoto HID projectors|Custom Brake Cooling Ducts|Rigid 30" LED Light bar|Optima Red Top|NGK TR6ix Plugs


Ls6 im, Ls1 tb, Ls7 Maf,Built trans,3.29 gears 2800 stall 3/4 pan spacer,accel coil packs,Dt headers,Gxp brakes, Brembo Drilled Rotors, Custom 3in no cat into magnaflows, Zzp lca's,Don rom stb's and fender braces, Bilsteins, Ssc, sway bar,Bmr rear control arms & trailing arms,Hp Tuned,Black depo head lights,Led tails,Full custom led dash lights
312whp for now Turbo time soon


so around 310-320 rwhp and 3750lbs.

had to have been a V6 mustang. even a coyote peddling it can murder that.

Mustang ftmfw. Great drivers come standard.
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Originally Posted by willizm
It wouldn't be static, it would be dynamic. Also boost is not a measure of performance. It's volumetric efficiency that makes the power. Boost is just the restriction on that given setup so coming in here with your ricer math you probably got from corvetteforums and trying to act like the resident expert is laughable. Look at it like this. You have two cars with the same 370ci motor and drivetrain. Everything is identical except the turbo setup. Car A has a pt7675 and car B has twin pt6766's. Both push 15lbs on the same fuel, timing, afr, etc. Do they make the same power? No. Do their power bands look similar. No. Do they theoretically have the same dynamic displacement. No.

Listen, I don't profess to know everything, I can tell you that I comfortably know more about FI than yourself. Not trying to make a dig at you but please just stop.



Although I will agree that racegas and e85 do not make power directly, but the end product is giving you a higher ceiling to push more boost and timing. Yeah you can make a few whp just on the added octane but to take advantage of those fuels you increase boost and also add timing. Racegas having a higher octane helps during combustion to eat up those temps. E85 does a similar thing but with it being an ethanol based fuel it has far more cooling properties in the cylinder during ignition at the cost of a stoichiometric ratio of 9.7 compared to gasoline type fuels at 14.7.

Weve had our riffs, but you sir are the man.
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Cheers fellas! Dont judge my choice of drink. How else am i supposed to afford car parts? Lmao.
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Like your car OP. Its something you don't see a whole lot. Definitely unique. 4 doors and a v8. Good win on the 5.0. Don't pay attention to the haters. I gotta say this thread had me laughing.
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Like your car OP. Its something you don't see a whole lot. Definitely unique. 4 doors and a v8. Good win on the 5.0. Don't pay attention to the haters. I gotta say this thread had me laughing.
Thanks bud! Haters gonna hate, some of them act like this is my dream car lmao. I like it though, does what i need it to do
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Originally Posted by SSelDiabloBlanco
Thanks bud! Haters gonna hate, some of them act like this is my dream car lmao. I like it though, does what i need it to do
Mine doesn't do what I want it to do.

Which is mow the lawn n
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Originally Posted by hugger1975
Mine doesn't do what I want it to do.

Which is mow the lawn n
That's what the wife is for . (You can clearly see why I'll likely ever have one haha)
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Originally Posted by hugger1975
Mine doesn't do what I want it to do.

Which is mow the lawn n
Haha i can see it now...theres gonna be a sticky on turning your hhr into a lawn mower.
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