WS6 vs Mach 1
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Yeah my house is nuts 24/7. Wife is a hottie. I married up. I'll keep her pics to myself tho.
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Its not a ford ego. Its just real time spent at the track and watching street races since i was 16. You have no info. For all we know your some 16 year old punk tabbing back and fourth between gay **** and SRK. Odds are you have not car or some beat *** old LS1 that breaks down every 2 weeks and has never been to the track. Def never been to the track. Your like a Big Hammer clone. With just as ugly of an avatar.
And LS1 > Mach 1. Still. Get over it, cry baby.
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I said my piece in here earlier that i respect Mach's and they are a decent race for a ls1(edge to ls1). But some people refuse to believe that... However here's a little proof the ls1 is superior....How many non f body/y body cars out there these days are getting ls1 swaps? Rx7s,240s,old Porsches, even seen foxes, s10s, and countless more.... Wonder why? Now how many mach one engines are out there getting swapped around? Answer: not enough to mention.
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That's because you came across guys that want to treat them like a old school sbc. I assure you the results are very repeatable. The real funny part is errything we did we told you guys.....same with my car. But as you can tell from the hate/attempts to discredit them both it strikes a cord in the heart of some. What's even funnier is neither are the fastest and the furd guys cry like sissy *** babies over them.
For sure
hell most that use the term full bolt-on don't have full bolt-ons
You wanna know wtf is sketchy ?? Boosted cars.....you never really know how much boost they are running or what gas or tune they got goin on. They can change tunes on the flip of a switch.
Yes it was on the stock tune.
I have let erryone know exactly what was done to his and my car. Hammer has implemented what has been learned......and add3d some stuff too. I have told others what to do in plain site for you guys.
Not even a little
Rwtq......360 .....rwhp 340
I think he may be.
For sure
hell most that use the term full bolt-on don't have full bolt-ons
You wanna know wtf is sketchy ?? Boosted cars.....you never really know how much boost they are running or what gas or tune they got goin on. They can change tunes on the flip of a switch.
Yes it was on the stock tune.
I have let erryone know exactly what was done to his and my car. Hammer has implemented what has been learned......and add3d some stuff too. I have told others what to do in plain site for you guys.
Not even a little
Rwtq......360 .....rwhp 340
I think he may be.
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So what were the mods to get 340/360? You say a bolt on LS1 with stock exhaust manifolds? Dyno sheet? My base line was 319/328 with only lid & bellow. I know these are all just dyno #'s but that seems a bit too high for a stock LS1 long block. It seems closer to a stock LS6.
stock ls6's should be near 360whp~ and bolt on one's should go over 400whp. There is 60 hp difference in the two engines.
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I said my piece in here earlier that i respect Mach's and they are a decent race for a ls1(edge to ls1). But some people refuse to believe that... However here's a little proof the ls1 is superior....How many non f body/y body cars out there these days are getting ls1 swaps? Rx7s,240s,old Porsches, even seen foxes, s10s, and countless more.... Wonder why? Now how many mach one engines are out there getting swapped around? Answer: not enough to mention.
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Not that I have been around many......but a quick search can find plenty at 350+. Easy to find bolt-on ls6's over 400 too. Mine for instance is well over 400, 430~ on a dynojet. Cam only ls6's should be 450+ if the guys is serious about making power and don't just want to talk about his cam install.
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Not that I have been around many......but a quick search can find plenty at 350+. Easy to find bolt-on ls6's over 400 too. Mine for instance is well over 400, 430~ on a dynojet. Cam only ls6's should be 450+ if the guys is serious about making power and don't just want to talk about his cam install.
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-z...ly-c5-z06.html
Edit: I found these inside 2 minutes... I am sure you can find other examples (north of 450rwhp) with some effort.
2003 Z06, EnglandGreen Whiplash II cam kit, American Racing Headers, high flow cats, stock catback & Vararam. Stock heads.
445rwhp, 394rwtq
445rwhp, 394rwtq
HBJ40 - 2003 Z06, EnglandGreen Whiplash II cam kit, American Racing headers, high flow cats, GHL Bullets, Vararam. Stock heads.
450rwhp 385rwtq
450rwhp 385rwtq
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From my experience odthetruth's calculations seem to be spot on. Those #'s, 340/360, seem a bit high especially w/o longtubes. Getting the long tubes installed was the biggest power adder bolt on, about 30/30 gain at the rear wheels. If those #'s were made on a "good" dyno with the mods you stated I would almost guarantee thats a record. You have stated you put down 417/395, very good for a bolt on LS6. The cam only 450+ I can't believe. LS1/6 cars i've seen running 450+ rwhp are mostly H/C/I builds. Here's one...
LMR Reaper LS1 corvette makes 440rwhp - YouTube
LMR Reaper LS1 corvette makes 440rwhp - YouTube
W/o being on the same dyno it's hard to say. Most want to go by dynojet numbers. My dynojet numbers would be 431hp/405tq. My 417hp/395 numbers were made on a dyno dynamics, they are known to be conservative. Before the 1.8 rockers it made 413 on the same dyno.....which is exactly what vetteboy's record ls6 car made. He also dyno's on a dyno dynamics but not the one I am on. They are both full bolt-ons. Like I said if you are serious about making some hp out of them they will do it. Most would rather talk about their cam though.
Briansformula has also been over 400 with his bolt-on ls6.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-z...ly-c5-z06.html
Edit: I found these inside 2 minutes... I am sure you can find other examples (north of 450rwhp) with some effort.
Edit: I found these inside 2 minutes... I am sure you can find other examples (north of 450rwhp) with some effort.
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