*Cam only 5th Gen Camaro vs Corvette c6 (LS2-stock)** VIDEO
08-07-2014, 01:09 PM
#23
See the sig of the guy above you.
124mph trap with a cam only L99. Last time I checked stock LS2 C6's trap 114-115mph. 9mph is a big difference. That just shows you what a good setup is and what a shitty setup is like the one in this video. I don't get the point of camming a car if it's going to be a baby cam, and run like crap. When I see cam only in a LS car I usually expect it to run well and have a decent gain in performance. That 5th gen ran like a bolt-on car!
Lol.
124mph trap with a cam only L99. Last time I checked stock LS2 C6's trap 114-115mph. 9mph is a big difference. That just shows you what a good setup is and what a shitty setup is like the one in this video. I don't get the point of camming a car if it's going to be a baby cam, and run like crap. When I see cam only in a LS car I usually expect it to run well and have a decent gain in performance. That 5th gen ran like a bolt-on car!
Lol.
Dont use some random members sig as a benchmark for all 5th gens either, with so many unknown variables, like gearing, weight, tires/wheels, ***HEADERS***(SS sounded quiet in the tunnel) etc.
NOT ALL CAMS ARE CREATED EQUAL!!! lol
And not everyone wants a peaky donkey dik cam in their daily driver, i'm one of em.
I stand corrected, too many unknowns to trash the SS. If it got raped I would question it. But it was pretty much hanging with the vette a car length back.
oh and lol
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08-07-2014, 03:10 PM
#24
Clearly you took weight out, them 5th gens with stock weight and an average weight of a man is 4k lbs hell they run 13s stock and that vette runs mid 12s stock yet you think this 5th gen is set up poorly? Lol right. Hell a buddy of mine had a stock ls3 Camaro i beat it with bolt ons in my 4th gen. Before i did other upgrades to my car. I beat it by at least a car length. The fact is the 5th gen is let down by GM way to heavy of a car.
Btw my car is messed up now so have fun making fun of my car because idc once its fixed then ill race it again to see what its really capable of.
Btw my car is messed up now so have fun making fun of my car because idc once its fixed then ill race it again to see what its really capable of.
Mine trapped 110.8 with CAI only, that with a crappy 2.2 0-60ft.
Im serious this 5th gen has the crappiest cam/setup/driver.
How come Ive beat a catback LS2 Vette easy at the track? Then a cobra 03'ish, then a Stingray?
I know most 5th gen owners care much about 22" wheels, lighting and exterior mods than performance. Early stock L99 were slow as **** too.
08-07-2014, 03:27 PM
#26
IMHO if its a cammed 5th gen its a poor setup. Why spend all that money for a small cam that nets you 25rwhp and 10rwtq????? You don't need a huge cam to net big gains either.
Thats why I keep telling most people to do their homework. I was questioned many times why my bolt on L99 was out running cammed L99s and LS3s. People wonder how I managed an 11.87 @ 115.32 mph with no cam.
Thats why I keep telling most people to do their homework. I was questioned many times why my bolt on L99 was out running cammed L99s and LS3s. People wonder how I managed an 11.87 @ 115.32 mph with no cam.
08-07-2014, 07:11 PM
#29
Fact is: this Camaro run like ****.
08-07-2014, 07:49 PM
#30
So knowing stock Camaro can run mid 12s to high 12s stock you believe that a cammed one is gonna get raped by a stock Vette? Can it happen? Yes. Great setup? No. Thats the point. And the C7 never ran better than 12.40-12.90@112-113mph at this particular track and weather that day. No way the LS2 would have ran better than the C7.
Fact is: this Camaro run like ****.
Fact is: this Camaro run like ****.
secondly, explain how Vettes are murdering Mustangs that have 100 more rwhp. weight, aero, tire, gearing. Its simple physics.
Third you have no idea what the cam specs are. It could have been a baby cam with no headers. Again did you watch the damn video. That SS sounded mighty quiet for being cammed and racing in a damn tunnel which amplifies sound even more.
By saying "badly set up/runs like ****" without knowing the details of mods and specs of the mods you sound like a damn retard.
For all we know this Camaro couldve been a true baby cam only car that ran the way it should have ran. Doesnt mean its badly set up, it just is what is a heavy car with decent power numbers for a daily driver.
If we KNEW this was a heads/cam or even a monster cammed/stalled LS3 running like this I would agree with you that it runs like ****.
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08-07-2014, 08:36 PM
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So knowing stock Camaro can run mid 12s to high 12s stock you believe that a cammed one is gonna get raped by a stock Vette? Can it happen? Yes. Great setup? No. Thats the point. And the C7 never ran better than 12.40-12.90@112-113mph at this particular track and weather that day. No way the LS2 would have ran better than the C7.
Fact is: this Camaro run like ****.
So your saying a car that weighs several hundred pounds more with worse areodynamics, worse suspension, worse power to weight ratio etc... to begin with should beat a superior stock mid 12s car with just a cam? Lmao right put down the drugs...
Also that camaro isn't the 1le, so it weighs a lot more than the vette. Also the gearing is worse than the vette.
Do you know the cam specs?
Do you know if that person had bolt ons as well?
Do you know if that person changed the gears?
I could keep asking a lot of questions but fact is there isn't enough evidence to judge what that "CAM ONLY CAMARO" should be running...
08-07-2014, 08:37 PM
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hey guys sorry I didn't add a lot of information to the video. The Camaro was bought with the cam already installed. It was set up for a blower. It also previously had a fast intake and other parts but the previous owner removed some of the performance parts and replaced them with oem parts before making the sale to my friend. The only thing this car has is the cam, and a tune from what I know of. Im not sure it has headers. Im pretty sure its got some sort of cat back though but im not positive on that.
with that being said its obvious that this car isn't set up to be cam only with hardly any other mods. I personally think it runs how its supposed to at the moment.
with that being said its obvious that this car isn't set up to be cam only with hardly any other mods. I personally think it runs how its supposed to at the moment.
08-07-2014, 08:53 PM
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So your saying a car that weighs several hundred pounds more with worse areodynamics, worse suspension, worse power to weight ratio etc... to begin with should beat a superior stock mid 12s car with just a cam? Lmao right put down the drugs...
Also that camaro isn't the 1le, so it weighs a lot more than the vette. Also the gearing is worse than the vette.
Do you know the cam specs?
Do you know if that person had bolt ons as well?
Do you know if that person changed the gears?
I could keep asking a lot of questions but fact is there isn't enough evidence to judge what that "CAM ONLY CAMARO" should be running...
Also that camaro isn't the 1le, so it weighs a lot more than the vette. Also the gearing is worse than the vette.
Do you know the cam specs?
Do you know if that person had bolt ons as well?
Do you know if that person changed the gears?
I could keep asking a lot of questions but fact is there isn't enough evidence to judge what that "CAM ONLY CAMARO" should be running...
08-07-2014, 09:29 PM
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Actually iirc someone said a cammed and bolt on ls3 camaro ran a mid 11s hmm thats not thay much reach out of a bolt on ls1 4th gen, also a cammed and bolt on ls1 runs the same or better times. Why bc its lighter...
That vette the Z51 (which is in the video btw) is LIGHTER, BETTER SUSPENSION, GEARING all while being stock... so this camaro did good against a superior car.
Clearly you didn't answer all my questions instead you said **** to try and back up your argument = epic fail
08-07-2014, 11:53 PM
#38
Some 5th gens run "GOOD" because they have more power, less weight, better tire, gearing etc. Not everyone wants their every day car to be a racecar. Its all relative, and you cant consider those cars as poorly "SET UP"because it shouldnt even be considered a "SET UP"
How dense are you? Im getting dumber and dumber trying to explain simple logic to your simple mind.
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08-08-2014, 07:32 AM
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I took exactly 90-100lbs out cause it was 378xlbs on the scale stock with some more gas in the tank.
Mine trapped 110.8 with CAI only, that with a crappy 2.2 0-60ft.
Im serious this 5th gen has the crappiest cam/setup/driver.
How come Ive beat a catback LS2 Vette easy at the track? Then a cobra 03'ish, then a Stingray?
I know most 5th gen owners care much about 22" wheels, lighting and exterior mods than performance. Early stock L99 were slow as **** too.
Mine trapped 110.8 with CAI only, that with a crappy 2.2 0-60ft.
Im serious this 5th gen has the crappiest cam/setup/driver.
How come Ive beat a catback LS2 Vette easy at the track? Then a cobra 03'ish, then a Stingray?
I know most 5th gen owners care much about 22" wheels, lighting and exterior mods than performance. Early stock L99 were slow as **** too.
08-08-2014, 03:42 PM
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Dude you're an idiot. If its a weak cammed Camaro with nothing else then it ran how it was suppose to run. So this race shouldnt be shocking and disappointing.
Some 5th gens run "GOOD"because they have more power, less weight, better tire, gearing etc. Not everyone wants their every day car to be a racecar. Its all relative, and you cant consider those cars as poorly "SET UP"because it shouldnt even be considered a "SET UP"
How dense are you? Im getting dumber and dumber trying to explain simple logic to your simple mind.
Some 5th gens run "GOOD"because they have more power, less weight, better tire, gearing etc. Not everyone wants their every day car to be a racecar. Its all relative, and you cant consider those cars as poorly "SET UP"because it shouldnt even be considered a "SET UP"
How dense are you? Im getting dumber and dumber trying to explain simple logic to your simple mind.
I dont care if it lose or win.
Arent Z51 more heavier than a base Vette. Id be curious to see if there is so many Z51 Vette on the fast list.