HioSSilver

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Dude.....the bore size is not gonna mean **** at you guys power level. Way more to it then that. Or the 302 would've out powered the 305 in stock form.

PA94Z

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I never said the 305 was junk. I wouldn't waste my time on it though... To many 350's out there.

I actually did throw some data out of why the 305 is inferior. Things that really matter to engine output like bore size, and compression ratio.

What don't you understand about this challenge? Stock weight street cars, stock bottom end motor. Pretty simple stuff. Snake is being nice and letting Hammer correct the shitty compression.. He doesn't have to. The guidelines were clearly stated.

snake95

Hio, stick to the **** you know - not Fords. I know the messages are flying back and forth between you and hammer, go ahead - he's gonna need it. We agreed to video before hand to prove it's streetable and not a race car engine. ****, even if he ran 12:1 with a donkey dick cam and built bottom end, it'd be close with my basic heads/cam car.

I fully expect to find about 5 loopholes exploited at the end of this whole thing, if I didn't ask about pistons & compression, it would have gone unmentioned.

snake95

Yup, you are right, but Tyler is cool enough, I'm willing to let him do that to make it competitive.

PA94Z

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They are both using after market heads. Snakes 4.0 bore is much better than a 3.74 for head selection and valve sizing. You can't just throw any SBC head on the 305.. It is certainly not anything close to stock vs stock.

A SBC head flowed on a 4.125 bore will outflow the same head flowed on a 4.030 bore. It does matter. Quite a bit actually...

snake95

Hammer will be running a 350 before it's all said and done.

Jackie Fran

I was a couple of pages behind but this was funny as hell to me.

Now that you guys have figured out that your cars don't weigh 6 tons and are adding chinese made Arias intakes good for 60 hp (Hammer), I should get something back. How about getting rid of the DQ even if I win part of the rules?

BTW: I just broke an axle speed shifting to 2nd so it probably won't even make a full pass

snake95

Just won an eBay auction for some high powered ****..................

big hammer

the rules don't state a stock bottom end. it specifies pump gas. which for me is 91 anyway.

big hammer

yes you can. it just limits your lift or you have to notch your bores.

big hammer

if i were just building an SBC i wouldn't even bother with a 350. it would be 400 based.

snake95

Hammer, are you notching your bores, as well?

"MAC"

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Yours? We all know how country rich you are. Id say Maw and Paw Kettle but i highly doubt you're striking oil.

big hammer

i was considering it, but decided against it as it's not really a common practice on a street 305.

big hammer

lol no. i wouldn't buy one. they just end up being a huge liability.

"MAC"

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Sean dont act like you aint got something up your sleeve! You're being sneaky and i smell a coyote swap in your future. How coincidental it was that you totaled your other car and now doing this with hammer. Mmmhm i know what you're up to!

Please dont take that serious obviously im joking around...

PA94Z

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Cool.. I see you worded that intending on changing pistons because GMs design is inferior.

That sounds like a great idea... limit yourself to .4" lift, or sink the edge of the valve into the bore So in your opinion, neither of these will limit head flow? I said you can't put any SBC head on a 305. I should have said you shouldn't. My bad you didn't understand that statement.

In that case I'd go big block... really no reason to use a GM 400 block. Dart blocks are cheap and much stronger than any GM casting.

"MAC"

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Lol well nothing beats being free man ima weigh my car eventually

snake95

I applaud your integrity, and it may not be stated in the rules in the 2nd post, but we did say stock bottom end with a bore job if necessary. Don't make me dig up the post a zillion pages back. You specifically said you'd run stock crank and rods, but I assumed by pistons, you meant the oversized ones to fit your bore, not ones to add compression, but we've already crossed that bridge. 8.5:1 wouldn't even be fair in this competition.


MAC, honestly man nothing up my sleeve. Just a H/C 302 with off the shelf parts. I don't have the $$$ to do one-off **** or expensive parts.

big hammer

it wasn't clever wording. obviously if you're boring, it's raising compression even if you stick with stock style pistons.

it's not .400, it's around .450. and you can run a 2" valve down into the bore without notching.

you've obviously never built a 215cc headed 406.