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Old 01-20-2015 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Goosecaddy05
Here you go Mr Monkey... Play with this all you want

http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/calcboost.html

Much easier for everyone
You mean the geniuses in here can't do the math and splain it to the class?

MAC2 - I'm not looking for boost calcs, but that's alright you tried your best. lol
Old 01-20-2015 | 04:04 PM
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You mean the geniuses in here can't do the math and splain it to the class?

MAC2 - I'm not looking for boost calcs, but that's alright you tried your best. lol
No problem, always happy to help people with mental disabilities like yourself
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How are you guys not grasping what islander is saying....

The only way to compare the 2 cars is with the same pulley combo upper and lower (Hence the blower speed)not with what supply's more boost..... Boost literally is nothing more than a measure of restriction

Holy ****
Old 01-20-2015 | 04:09 PM
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There is a reason that the ls9 is not making 750+ with boltons on pump like the 5.8. Let that sink in derps
Old 01-20-2015 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
How are you guys not grasping what islander is saying....

The only way to compare the 2 cars is with the same pulley combo upper and lower (Hence the blower speed)not with what supply's more boost..... Boost literally is nothing more than a measure of restriction

Holy ****
And with that same blower speed the ls9 will make way way more power than the 5.8 Islander AKA Special Ed likes to reference... The same pulley combo on the ls9 that the 5.8 shelby uses gives the zr1 around 13psi and 680-700rwhp... Holy **** Lawhead I can't believe you take anything Special Ed says seriously.
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
How are you guys not grasping what islander is saying....

The only way to compare the 2 cars is with the same pulley combo upper and lower (Hence the blower speed)not with what supply's more boost..... Boost literally is nothing more than a measure of restriction

Holy ****
This is true. What was the original argument, though? Which engine is more efficient? Seems like a pointless argument.
Old 01-20-2015 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Goosecaddy05
And with that same blower speed the ls9 will make way way more power than the 5.8 Islander AKA Special Ed likes to reference... The same pulley combo on the ls9 that the 5.8 shelby uses gives the zr1 around 13psi and 680-700rwhp... Holy **** Lawhead I can't believe you take anything Special Ed says seriously.
The GT500 having smaller pulleys is accurate.
Old 01-20-2015 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Goosecaddy05
And with that same blower speed the ls9 will make way way more power than the 5.8 Islander AKA Special Ed likes to reference... The same pulley combo on the ls9 that the 5.8 shelby uses gives the zr1 around 13psi and 680-700rwhp... Holy **** Lawhead I can't believe you take anything Special Ed says seriously.
Then prove it then MAC2.....quit getting stuck on boost PSI, you dumb ******.
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Then prove it then MAC2.....quit getting stuck on boost PSI, you dumb ******.
HAHA Special Ed wants me to "splain it" to him
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Originally Posted by islander033
So show me the math....it's easy ain't it?

LS9 vs 5.8 mod. Same blower speed. Don't forget to carry the 1...lol
same blower speed. ok. ill get it to you.

you set the parameter. blower speed.
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Originally Posted by Goosecaddy05
HAHA Special Ed wants me to "splain it" to him
So no splain? No surprised one bit.
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Originally Posted by assasinator
same blower speed. ok. ill get it to you.

you set the parameter. blower speed.
Thank you....finally someone that understands wtf is going on.
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Originally Posted by islander033
So no splain? No surprised one bit.
How is this Special Ed. When people pulley a zr1 they put a 2.6-7 pulley on them and make way more than a 2013-14 gt500 does... What is the stock pulley on a 13-14 gt500? 2.6-7 no>? Is that enough "splaining" for you Special Ed?
Old 01-20-2015 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Goosecaddy05
How is this Special Ed. When people pulley a zr1 they put a 2.6-7 pulley on them and make way more than a 2013-14 gt500 does... What is the stock pulley on a 13-14 gt500? 2.6-7 no>? Is that enough "splaining" for you Special Ed?
Links please....
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Don't forget lower pulley too it makes just as much difference
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Originally Posted by islander033
Links please....
http://vmp-tvs.com/our-product/shelby-gt500-tvs/ gt500 pulley sizes

http://texas-speed.com/p-2969-lingen...2009-2011.aspx zr1 pulley upgrade

shelby 2.6 pulley is 16psi stock shelby pulley is 2.7 to make 15 psi

zr1 2.6 pulley is 13.5-14.5 psi

So both motors with same pulley size the zr1 makes more power... Poor Special Ed. I bet you still want more "Splaining". So sad
Old 01-20-2015 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Goosecaddy05
http://vmp-tvs.com/our-product/shelby-gt500-tvs/ gt500 pulley sizes

http://texas-speed.com/p-2969-lingen...2009-2011.aspx zr1 pulley upgrade

shelby 2.6 pulley is 16psi stock shelby pulley is 2.7 to make 15 psi

zr1 2.6 pulley is 13.5-14.5 psi

So both motors with same pulley size the zr1 makes more power... Poor Special Ed. I bet you still want more "Splaining". So sad
You must compare upper AND lower pullies.... Stop getting stuck on boost you obtuse dumbass.
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LS9 TVS2300 eaton pullies and blower rpms.

10 Bolt Supercharger Pulley Choices – stock balancer
2.60 inch - 19% OD - 18,300 RPM supercharger speed*
2.35 inch - 32% OD - 20,300 RPM supercharger speed*

10 Bolt Supercharger Pulley Choices – overdrive balancer
2.60 inch - 36% OD - 20,800 RPM supercharger speed*
2.35 inch - 50% OD - 23,000 RPM supercharger speed*

*Measured at 6,500 RPM engine speed / Stock supercharger speed 15,400 RPM





C6 Corvette ZR1 378 CID LS9 Supercharger Pulley Upgrade - 680 HP

The Lingenfelter supercharger pulley upgrade package is designed to enhance the new LS9 Corvette ZR1 supercharged engine. This package produces excellent horsepower and torque improvements over the factory 638 horsepower and 604 lbs ft of torque while maintaining a safe level of boost and supercharger RPM.

680 BHP / 660 lbs ft of torque

See chassis dyno sheet

Package Includes:
- 2.60 inch diameter steel supercharger drive pulley - powder coated black - 11 rib
- 100 mm aluminum double bearing idler assembly
- Lingenfelter LS9 solid supercharger isolator coupling
- Lingenfelter 160 Degree thermostat
- Port and polish supercharger snout
- Increased boost level 12 - 13 psi


2.6" PULLEY IS 18,300 TVS R2300 4 LOBE SUPERCHARGER ROTOR SPEED. POWER IS 680 BHP FOR A LS9. BOOST IS 12-13 PSI.

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Originally Posted by assasinator
LS9 TVS2300 eaton pullies and blower rpms.

10 Bolt Supercharger Pulley Choices – stock balancer
2.60 inch - 19% OD - 18,300 RPM supercharger speed*
2.35 inch - 32% OD - 20,300 RPM supercharger speed*

10 Bolt Supercharger Pulley Choices – overdrive balancer
2.60 inch - 36% OD - 20,800 RPM supercharger speed*
2.35 inch - 50% OD - 23,000 RPM supercharger speed*

*Measured at 6,500 RPM engine speed / Stock supercharger speed 15,400 RPM





C6 Corvette ZR1 378 CID LS9 Supercharger Pulley Upgrade - 680 HP

The Lingenfelter supercharger pulley upgrade package is designed to enhance the new LS9 Corvette ZR1 supercharged engine. This package produces excellent horsepower and torque improvements over the factory 638 horsepower and 604 lbs ft of torque while maintaining a safe level of boost and supercharger RPM.

680 BHP / 660 lbs ft of torque

See chassis dyno sheet

Package Includes:
- 2.60 inch diameter steel supercharger drive pulley - powder coated black - 11 rib
- 100 mm aluminum double bearing idler assembly
- Lingenfelter LS9 solid supercharger isolator coupling
- Lingenfelter 160 Degree thermostat
- Port and polish supercharger snout
- Increased boost level 12 - 13 psi


2.6" PULLEY IS 18,300 TVS R2300 4 LOBE SUPERCHARGER ROTOR SPEED. POWER IS 680 BHP FOR A LS9. BOOST IS 12-13 PSI.

And?
Old 01-20-2015 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by islander033
And?
To put this in perspective at 7,000 engine rpm's:

(1) stock 2.7 pulley will turn the blower .......@ 18,726 rpm's


at stock rpms......18,726 the 5.8 dohc makes less power. 662 vs 680


same rpm for the blower, the LS9 outperforms the 5.8 ford.

the LS9 has a few hundred less rpm for more power and torque.

will all of you refrain from calling me a ford nutswinger?


I had to prove this for you.


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