McLaren MP4-12C vs GT500 2.3L TVS
01-12-2015 | 03:31 PM
#161
Settle down, just messing. Did you realize who I was quoting? One of the top nutswinging, anti-chevy, complain about everything non-GT100 members we have. We could be discussing goats and cattle and that member will start comparing horseshoes to GT100s.
And you know all of us have a raging hard-on for your car. Its no wonder it gets brought up everwhere. Even islander has a secret crush on the holesaw wonder.
And you know all of us have a raging hard-on for your car. Its no wonder it gets brought up everwhere. Even islander has a secret crush on the holesaw wonder.
How bout real stock.....stock errything. Post up dat **** please.
In what specific scenario do you put your car in front? When I'm out of gear? That trap didn't help you down the quarter, didn't help you in the back half - against a "poorly built" SBC that cut nearly an identical 60 ft to yours, in worse air... and still came out in front
Poor Hacksaw Lucky...
I'll await the stipulations of this fantasy scenario.
That trap didn't help you down the quarter, didn't help you in the back half - against a "poorly built" SBC that cut nearly an identical 60 ft to yours, in worse air... and still came out in front Poor Hacksaw Lucky...
I'll await the stipulations of this fantasy scenario.
Enough of the theoretical crap. Lol The 2.3L TVS is not "too small". Haven't you people seen the numerous ZR1's pushing north of 750whp? A buddy's recently made 730whp with full bolt-ons and E85, stock internals. Obviously, a bigger blower is almost always better. It works the same way with smaller displacement engines in most instances. But fact is, a 2.3L will provide plenty of useable power across the board on a 376cu.in engine. ZR1 has been bottom 9's with one. Enough proof right there that the "little" blower indeed gets the job done.
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01-12-2015 | 03:47 PM
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Enough of the theoretical crap. Lol The 2.3L TVS is not "too small". Haven't you people seen the numerous ZR1's pushing north of 750whp? A buddy's recently made 730whp with full bolt-ons and E85, stock internals. Obviously, a bigger blower is almost always better. It works the same way with smaller displacement engines in most instances. But fact is, a 2.3L will provide plenty of useable power across the board on a 376cu.in engine. ZR1 has been bottom 9's with one. Enough proof right there that the "little" blower indeed gets the job done.
01-12-2015 | 03:49 PM
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Lol@ holesaw wonder.......muh bad
Gotcha.....so slick tired drag pak means nothing. Do you realize that a zl1 could lose about 100lb of rotating weight but doin a drag pak? But yea it means nothing......stock brah
How bout real stock.....stock errything. Post up dat **** please.
I have wet dreams about your cobro......we are ridin along and you are pretending muh junk is a shifter in that gm auto'd beast. Lets just say your hand got a little messy
Poor spaz....apparently that trap does help. And it hurts your butt.
2.3 is to small. Even ported they boost taper. The ideal with a good blower setup is not to loose boost with rpm. Working the blower to hard just uses more power. I'm sure furd and gm probably made the 2.3 run in the same efficiency area. One engine makes 16lb~ of boost and one makes 10lb~ with the same blower. What's that tell you?
Gotcha.....so slick tired drag pak means nothing. Do you realize that a zl1 could lose about 100lb of rotating weight but doin a drag pak? But yea it means nothing......stock brah
How bout real stock.....stock errything. Post up dat **** please.
I have wet dreams about your cobro......we are ridin along and you are pretending muh junk is a shifter in that gm auto'd beast. Lets just say your hand got a little messy
Poor spaz....apparently that trap does help. And it hurts your butt.
2.3 is to small. Even ported they boost taper. The ideal with a good blower setup is not to loose boost with rpm. Working the blower to hard just uses more power. I'm sure furd and gm probably made the 2.3 run in the same efficiency area. One engine makes 16lb~ of boost and one makes 10lb~ with the same blower. What's that tell you?
01-12-2015 | 03:51 PM
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While a smaller blower might get it done on a 1/4 mile pass or a dyno run, a bigger blower will not heat soak, be more efficient, and make more power on a bigger motor over a much longer period of time... No reason not to use a bigger one to begin with... That's why many many c7zo6 owners will be swapping blowers as one of the very first mods they do... Just look at how a c7zo6 makes power on a dyno.... Typical small blower tq curve... all its tq is gone by the time you hit the rpm range you'll be in at the strip or the road course that its supposedly been developed for... The small blower is there to put smiles on the faces of the old farts who'll never get past 4k rpm
01-12-2015 | 04:01 PM
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Lol@ holesaw wonder
Gotcha.....so slick tired drag pak means nothing. Do you realize that a zl1 could lose about 100lb of rotating weight but doin a drag pak? But yea it means nothing......stock brah
How bout real stock.....stock errything. Post up dat **** please.
I have wet dreams about your cobro......we are ridin along and you are pretending muh junk is a shifter in that gm auto'd beast. Lets just say your hand got a little messy
Poor spaz....apparently that trap does help. And it hurts your butt.
2.3 is to small. Even ported they boost taper. The ideal with a good blower setup is not to loose boost with rpm. Working the blower to hard just uses more power. I'm sure furd and gm probably made the 2.3 run in the same efficiency area. One engine makes 16lb~ of boost and one makes 10lb~ with the same blower. What's that tell you?
Gotcha.....so slick tired drag pak means nothing. Do you realize that a zl1 could lose about 100lb of rotating weight but doin a drag pak? But yea it means nothing......stock brah
How bout real stock.....stock errything. Post up dat **** please.
I have wet dreams about your cobro......we are ridin along and you are pretending muh junk is a shifter in that gm auto'd beast. Lets just say your hand got a little messy
Poor spaz....apparently that trap does help. And it hurts your butt.
2.3 is to small. Even ported they boost taper. The ideal with a good blower setup is not to loose boost with rpm. Working the blower to hard just uses more power. I'm sure furd and gm probably made the 2.3 run in the same efficiency area. One engine makes 16lb~ of boost and one makes 10lb~ with the same blower. What's that tell you?
01-12-2015 | 04:02 PM
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What #'s did i pull outta muh ***? My car loses almost 60lb of rotating goin to a drag pak. A zl is gonna lose alot more. Their stock wheels/tire weighs more than a 4gen stock wheel/tire by alot.
If I'm not mistaken evan said his boss lost 100~ goin to a drag pak. 5gen wheels/tires weigh more than boss ****.
01-12-2015 | 04:03 PM
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2.3 is to small. Even ported they boost taper. The ideal with a good blower setup is not to loose boost with rpm. Working the blower to hard just uses more power. I'm sure furd and gm probably made the 2.3 run in the same efficiency area. One engine makes 16lb~ of boost and one makes 10lb~ with the same blower. What's that tell you?
01-12-2015 | 04:10 PM
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His trans likely has a gm case at least. My rear has 0 furd parts.
What #'s did i pull outta muh ***? My car loses almost 60lb of rotating goin to a drag pak. A zl is gonna lose alot more. Their stock wheels/tire weighs more than a 4gen stock wheel/tire by alot.
If I'm not mistaken evan said his boss lost 100~ goin to a drag pak. 5gen wheels/tires weigh more than boss ****.
What #'s did i pull outta muh ***? My car loses almost 60lb of rotating goin to a drag pak. A zl is gonna lose alot more. Their stock wheels/tire weighs more than a 4gen stock wheel/tire by alot.
If I'm not mistaken evan said his boss lost 100~ goin to a drag pak. 5gen wheels/tires weigh more than boss ****.
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01-12-2015 | 04:49 PM
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exactly, and if the new blower on the c7zo6 has a better lobe design making it more efficient, why not just use that same design on a bigger one and make way more power? I guarantee emissions is no excuse and the hood or engine placement can be tweeked easily and still give the right .cd
Cool so he has a GM trans and you have a ford rear. Let's see the blower size for one until you were corrected. Then the boost difference of 6lbs with the same pulley combo was another. Also in regards to the bigs n littles a zl1 is simply not going to run the times the pre 13s have with just that for a mod.
Now to finish making you look stooopid. You can't really run the same pulley combo you ******* idiot. You look at rotor speed.......not pulley size you dumbass.
01-12-2015 | 04:56 PM
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Eehhh.....I'm sure they know they can make more power. I'm sure they also know they will have less warranty claims with less power. When it comes right down to it the c7z is a amazing car that runs with cars far more expensive as it is.
No care about power really.......i care about acceleration. Two identical cars and one that boost tapers @ say 16psi and one that don't @ 16 psi the one that don't is gonna win.
I'll give furd credit where it is do. They designed a decent rear......not bullet in stock form by any means. But very easy to work on and upgrade to keep alive.
Now to finish making you look stooopid. You can't really run the same pulley combo you ******* idiot. You look at rotor speed.......not pulley size you dumbass.
No care about power really.......i care about acceleration. Two identical cars and one that boost tapers @ say 16psi and one that don't @ 16 psi the one that don't is gonna win.
I'll give furd credit where it is do. They designed a decent rear......not bullet in stock form by any means. But very easy to work on and upgrade to keep alive.
Now to finish making you look stooopid. You can't really run the same pulley combo you ******* idiot. You look at rotor speed.......not pulley size you dumbass.
Yea like I was clueless about rotor speed with different size balancers, upper pulleys etc.. I own one dumbass
01-12-2015 | 05:38 PM
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If you truly had a clue you would know the 6.2 won't see the same boost at the same rotor speed as the 5.4 or the 5.8 with the same blower. What's that tell you?
01-12-2015 | 06:01 PM
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01-12-2015 | 06:05 PM
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If that point Hio made about rotor speed difference on two much different sized engines to reach the same boost does not click in your head as common sense automach1 you should probably take a deep breath, sit back, and think about it a bit ... Then hopefully it will make sense... If it still does not>>>>
01-12-2015 | 06:10 PM
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If that point Hio made about rotor speed difference on two much different sized engines to reach the same boost does not click in your head as common sense automach1 you should probably take a deep breath, sit back, and think about it a bit ... Then hopefully it will make sense... If it still does not>>>>
01-12-2015 | 06:16 PM
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If that point Hio made about rotor speed difference on two much different sized engines to reach the same boost does not click in your head as common sense automach1 you should probably take a deep breath, sit back, and think about it a bit ... Then hopefully it will make sense... If it still does not>>>>