I have better access to Sunoco 100 octane around here than E85. Is that considered pump gas too? I mean, it comes from a pump, right? Furthermore, unlike E85, it requires no modifications to run it, and it actually is pump GAS. E85 is pump alcohol.

 

What I wanna know is why the hell anyone cares if its pump gas or not. Its 2$ a gallon and virtually magic. Thats all that matters. Period.

 

Was Sunoco 100 developed as a cheaper alternative to gas? Do car manufacturers build their flex fuel cars to run on 87,91,83 e85 and Sunoco 100?

You all act like E85 was developed, marketed and sold as a race fuel. That just happens to be an added benefit of it.

 

I can drive 5 miles in any direction from my house and get E85. Pretty much any new car you buy has the ability to jump between a mix.

And Hio your argument about him adding a sensor to tune it right is retarded. You wouldnt put a car on a dyno with a narrowband o2 sensor to tune it. How is this any different?

 

Right must be something we don't know lol

 

100 octane can be run in any gasoline powered car. E85 requires a vehicle designed for it, or modifications.

E85 benefits some racers and some farmers, and that's it. And it's not as cheap as you think. I don't even use the stuff, yet I pay for it. You do as well.

 

Same here. I can drive my boosted mobile less than 5 miles actually. The E85 at this gas station has been tested at E90 as well. It comes right out of a pump? There must be perks to living in the land of the corn. Making HP might be one of them.

 

Correct, but you get no benefit from 100 octane other than spending more money in fuel. Not to mention 100 octane is a limited availability fuel marketed as a higher octane "race fuel". E85 is a widely avaliable alternative fuel. If it's not pump gas wtf is it?

 

I seen this thing in person...race heads up against the Vengeance Z06(I have a video). It was an awesome race..... 1mph difference between the two in the half mile.... pedal fest. These new Z's are wicked....especially on E.

 

Yea right bro.....Z06's are sooo disappointing. No way that is possible. Just like those Hellcats...sooo overrated. Just ask around in SRK.

 

Exactly, on both points.

I forget that arguing with a mental/literal midget can bring forth quite the bitch fest, so I'm glad you chimed in Teg. Sweet video comp BTW!

 

E85 is only "race gas" to the people who don't use it

Plain and simple its just like if someones car is faster than yours its a racecar....

 

It's just straight up not available here, period.

 

E85 is no different. No benefit unless your car has been built for it or modified to use it.

In your area. In my area, it isn't. 100 octane is more readily available.

It's alcohol. Gas=gasoline. Alcohol is NOT gasoline.

CNG is not pump gas. E85 is not pump gas. Propane is not pump gas. Just because they can be found at a pump at many gas stations around the country and all can be used to fuel a vehicle's engine, does NOT make them pump gas.

 

E85 can be cheaper to run depending on the price of gas even on a stock *** flex fuel car. If it's not pump gas what is it? I have never seen Propane or CNG at the pump next to the 87/91/93 like e85. I have never seen a vehicle that comes out of the factory and runs on 87/91/93/e85/propane/cng.
All I want to know if it's not pump gas what is it? And why is it at pumps in every state?

 

So what does my car have to do with this?? Fp'd t56 is just a manual with a shift kit.

Actually aero mods have been used for lots of years. Ever heard of a cowl hood?? Ever seen a hotrod with louvers in the hood? Honda's with holes in the rear bumper??
Looks like to me marc said it pretty good. Why do you still have a tough time comprehending it?

Actually most test I have seen shows e85 to be more expensive to run.

There are many propane pumps around me.....brb goin to fill up.

 

I've read manufacturers are figuring this out and are now actually basing some of their factory tunes to take advantage of its high octane and cooling properties to increase performance.

So define pump gas please.

 

I'm gonna convert my car to run on E85, but when people ask me what fuel I'm running, I'm just going to say 85 Octane.

 

People will argue and complain night and day about the "proper" meaning of a very generic term like "pump gas". I'm a big boy and have real problems to deal with so I just call out which octane rating gasoline or ethonal rating is being used. Arguing what is and isn't "pump gas" is exactly the type of stupid **** 10 year old kids complain about.

 

Not in CT...

Jay Z28, ive called a bunch of stations looking for E85 in CT, most common response... "sorry, 87 is as low as it goes", haha.