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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by islander033
I fully agree that *5s cars have nothing to do with this thread.

But...
http://www.accufabracing.com/john-mi...vetz-mustang-2

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What made John's power and speed so impressive is the small displacement and stock source for major portions of his engine program. Displacement is 282 ci-- call it a stock 4.6 liters-- using a stock aluminum Cobra block; stock old style, "B" dual-port, Four Valve cylinder heads, as found in a '95 Lincoln; and a stock 4.6 liter Cobra crankshaft.

Carry on!
Look, MMR is THE shop to beat - no question. I've posted it before and here it is again - the "stock" Ford Racing block is modified, end of story. If you believe MMR uses a stock blocks to make record runs, then you represent everything you hate in Hio, etc.

http://www.modularmotorsportsracing....HP%20build.htm
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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by NW-99SS
Look, MMR is THE shop to beat - no question. I've posted it before and here it is again - the "stock" Ford Racing block is modified, end of story. If you believe MMR uses a stock blocks to make record runs, then you represent everything you hate in Hio, etc.

http://www.modularmotorsportsracing....HP%20build.htm
I'm pretty sure they are filled, but its still a stock block, regardless if there is work done to it, and what do you have to say about the heads/intake?
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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NW-99SS
Look, MMR is THE shop to beat - no question. I've posted it before and here it is again - the "stock" Ford Racing block is modified, end of story. If you believe MMR uses a stock blocks to make record runs, then you represent everything you hate in Hio, etc.

http://www.modularmotorsportsracing....HP%20build.htm
I think you missing the point he is trying to make. Yes the block has been modified. I don't think there is any production block in the world that you can buy off the shelf, throw a RA in it and have it hold 2500-3000hp. That is common knowledge/sense.

But the block is an OEM production block that went into vehicles that you can see on the road today. That type of durability in a block is rare. Especially at the price point they can be bought today for.

Look at a Dart block for an SBC. That thing looks like a hull of a battleship. Cross webbing everywhere lots of extra material around the bores and mains. Put the Ford vs Chevy thing aside and I don't know of any other production block that can hold that. Maybe a Bugati or a GTR block? I dont know.

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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NW-99SS
Look, MMR is THE shop to beat - no question. I've posted it before and here it is again - the "stock" Ford Racing block is modified, end of story. If you believe MMR uses a stock blocks to make record runs, then you represent everything you hate in Hio, etc.

http://www.modularmotorsportsracing....HP%20build.htm
So....MMR has run 5s in the 1/4 mile? Accufab has.

And...

http://www.nmradigital.com/2015/03/2...ifferent-ways/

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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by V8EATR
Well I had an 05 Mustang GT with factory 3.55's. A friend at the time had an 01 Cobra and the two cars had some bolt ons and they were dead even, I mean you could take a picture and it would be the same from start to finish. I put in 4.10's and the race didn't change one bit. Not even a fender. He also went from 3.27's, to 4.30's, to 3.73's and guess what, nothing. I would venture a guess an LS car that makes more torque probably wouldn't be much different. And even if it was, it certainly wouldn't be anywhere near 5+ car lengths. BTW these were all roll races.
Uh huh...I'm sure lol. Do larger Camshafts not help a car from a roll either? Or higher stalls? Obviously there were other factors/issues coming into play there. What makes you think that gears don't help in roll races? And so you're saying that every A4 LS1 F body should just stick with the factory 2.73 highway gears? Haha! This is cute. I know first hand how big of a difference there is between 2.73s in an A4 compared to 3.23s. Or 3.42s in an M6 compared to 4.10s.
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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 08:38 PM
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Yep that's my car lol made 360 whp on a mustang dyno, that stang is stout for what's done to it! I'll be coming back for more thus weekend if all works out lol
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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Khurd94
Yep that's my car lol made 360 whp on a mustang dyno, that stang is stout for what's done to it! I'll be coming back for more thus weekend if all works out lol
Just get some 4.10 gears, man. It should be a pretty good race then.
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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Khurd94
Yep that's my car lol made 360 whp on a mustang dyno, that stang is stout for what's done to it! I'll be coming back for more thus weekend if all works out lol
Good to see ya on here, what are you getting done this weekend?
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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 10:08 PM
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Lil spray lol
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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by HeadsOnly
Just get some 4.10 gears, man. It should be a pretty good race then.
3.90's for a bolt on car. Will wake it up a lot.
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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by big hammer
3.90's for a bolt on car. Will wake it up a lot.
Not according to V8COCKEATR here. Gears make cars suck.
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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 11:10 PM
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GivesHeadOnly sure is trying hard
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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by HeadsOnly
5th gen was much faster than any Mustang GT when it made its debut in 2010. And it's only taken GM a few years to gain back the lead with the 6th gen. Not decades like it did Ford. If you'd even call that a lead. 5th gen is pretty even with 5.0s.
What lead did they need to gain? The Mustang skullfucked the F bomb twins so bad where it truly mattered, they stopped producing the *************. Get a clue. Money = speed. Don't care what brand you prefer. How fast do you wanna go? A 2V can be built to **** up everyone on this board, so in the end, what's it matter? And no Hammer, whatever bullshit story you believe about the plant being cut is just that...bullshit. The turds didn't sell, much like Ponchos, so they gave up on the shitboxes.

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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by big hammer
Pretty desperate when you're comparing a normal street car to motor swapped class racing cars
Pretty desperate when you're so teared up from Hio's **** smacking your tonsils that you can't read truth.
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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by HeadsOnly
The only reason the 5.0 won this particular race, is because of its track pack gearing advantage. These cars are pretty much neck and neck with equal mods.
The two cars in this race have equal mods. Air intake, headers, exhaust, tune. Gearing in the Mustang is STOCK btw, no modifications there. So with equal mods, why is the Mustang here whipping that Fbody ***?

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Yes the faster car did win. Because of its gearing and nothing else. That's just life.
Do you not think the Mustang's significant power advantage, with equal mods at that, had anything to do with being the faster car here?
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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 07:00 AM
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So much angst in here.
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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 07:18 AM
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My bolt on 5.0 went 11.40s blowing the tires off in 98 degree heatlol....stock suspension on a 2 step doesn't work 3760 raceweight. I have about 20rwhp left to gain with bolt ons and then drop a bunch of weight. The suspension needs some serious work and a gear change. 10s is right around the corner. The coyote stock cars fly. They are mostly faceplated/proshifted TKO 500/600s. JPC's car went 10.20s and then 9.96 when they pulled the weight out. The Fox went faster 9.70s I believe. Weight is everything!
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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 07:41 AM
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Mark - we're on the same page
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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Gt4urass
What lead did they need to gain? The Mustang skullfucked the F bomb twins so bad where it truly mattered, they stopped producing the *************. Get a clue. Money = speed. Don't care what brand you prefer. How fast do you wanna go? A 2V can be built to **** up everyone on this board, so in the end, what's it matter? And no Hammer, whatever bullshit story you believe about the plant being cut is just that...bullshit. The turds didn't sell, much like Ponchos, so they gave up on the shitboxes.
Oh so now on sales numbers "truly matter"? Haha! Give me a break. This is the racing section, so only racing matters here. It's also funny that those "F bomb twins" who got cut from the team, are still whooping Ford *** 13+ years later. And a 2v needs A LOT of work to even have a chance at beating a bone stock F Body.
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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Gt4urass
What lead did they need to gain? The Mustang skullfucked the F bomb twins so bad where it truly mattered, they stopped producing the *************. Get a clue. Money = speed. Don't care what brand you prefer. How fast do you wanna go? A 2V can be built to **** up everyone on this board, so in the end, what's it matter? And no Hammer, whatever bullshit story you believe about the plant being cut is just that...bullshit. The turds didn't sell, much like Ponchos, so they gave up on the shitboxes.
So that makes the 5th gen awesome!
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