5.br0 vs LS2 GTO
04-27-2016, 01:24 PM
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I actually read the thread on yellow bullet and it didn't really say much. Guy said he was estimating 525whp and that was with stock uported 243's, SBE, etc...Which hardly seems accurate but I'm not a scientist so who knows. Dude with the vette also didn't/wouldn't give his rw in that thread at least. Some guys calling BS in that thread, especially guys with 3,000 rw cars making 520 through an auto and running a lot slower. Something doesn't add up. It's like Hio's car, yea its fast, but a fallacy about whats claimed.
There are plenty guys with more power running slower......because there are many other things other than hp to determine a cars acceleration.
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04-27-2016, 01:26 PM
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Only odd because you don't know where to look. 1le has better tires......and electric ps.
How much power should he make running a 9.6?
There are plenty guys with more power running slower......because there are many other things other than hp to determine a cars acceleration.
How much power should he make running a 9.6?
There are plenty guys with more power running slower......because there are many other things other than hp to determine a cars acceleration.
04-27-2016, 01:29 PM
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If my H/C/I LS1 didn't make as much as a typical bolt on Coyote (440rwhp), I'd personally take it to the car crusher myself. Keep in mind, you have to take account for a stalled car vs an m6. Figure I needed to specify (common sense) that because some people around here can't see anything but what is written.
04-27-2016, 01:31 PM
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He made some changes since that 470. Last time on the rollers he made just shy of 500whp. He's made some changes since that are a givin to go over 500 now. As far as i know he is still turning a ps pump to. A luxury the 5br0 guys forget about. So you can pretty much add 8hp for not turning a ps pump to make engine power itself more comparable if you like........some won't like tho 
That alone woulda put him over 500 . Still pump too i think. E85 would likely push it to 520 or so.
That alone woulda put him over 500 . Still pump too i think. E85 would likely push it to 520 or so.
04-27-2016, 01:35 PM
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I agree and that's why we see what we do around here. I was just saying that it can be done because it is let on by the coyote guys that it cannot. I've read a lot of threads and seen numbers all over the place, but when I see a H/C/I build that's under 450rwhp and an m6, I scratch my head.
04-27-2016, 01:36 PM
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There is no playing other than me pushing you around. You look dumb....there are more changes/development/parts that went into the 1le. Just because i didn't mention them all does not mean that is not all there is. The changes are well documented. The changes were mainly oriented toward road course and handling. The odd part is the standard ss still has the quickest time in the hands of the people......that's what i was goin by.
04-27-2016, 01:43 PM
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Now....e85 is not available everywhere. Really it's very limited and does not even exist in alot of areas. That creates it's own problem.
Btw....the tests that are out there with a ls on e85 has shown good gains. So no it's not a 6gen thing.
04-27-2016, 01:51 PM
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sweet ricer math.
04-27-2016, 01:58 PM
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no ****. The 5.0 factory stall is in the ball park of a aftermarket 3400-3600 stall rating. I've driven a few and was able to foot brake them up to 2800-2900rpms before the tires started spinning. Which as any guy who has owned/built/driven multiple stalled cars knows means the stall is friggin huge for a factory V8 car.
Your current setup should be running 1.7-1.8 60' times right? To pick up 1/2 second in the 1/4 my hazy knowledge banks say you would need to drop into the 1.4's to do that. IMO without drag strip dedicated suspension/rearend/tire work your stang isn't gonna do that. Take a damn near purpose built setup to run 1.4's
Your current setup should be running 1.7-1.8 60' times right? To pick up 1/2 second in the 1/4 my hazy knowledge banks say you would need to drop into the 1.4's to do that. IMO without drag strip dedicated suspension/rearend/tire work your stang isn't gonna do that. Take a damn near purpose built setup to run 1.4's
04-27-2016, 02:32 PM
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Rental cars: both auto mustang 5.0's that I have driven were 2011 5.0 rentals. The motors are so sewing machine smooth that it's not really noticeable unless you are a car guy.
Now take a 4th or 5th gen SS and foot brake it and you would be lucky to hit 1900rpms...
Now take a 4th or 5th gen SS and foot brake it and you would be lucky to hit 1900rpms...
04-27-2016, 02:35 PM
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04-27-2016, 02:43 PM
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Rental cars: both auto mustang 5.0's that I have driven were 2011 5.0 rentals. The motors are so sewing machine smooth that it's not really noticeable unless you are a car guy.
Now take a 4th or 5th gen SS and foot brake it and you would be lucky to hit 1900rpms...
Now take a 4th or 5th gen SS and foot brake it and you would be lucky to hit 1900rpms...
S197 Coyotes routinely gain .4-.5 seconds from a good torque converter. Similar to many other v8 pony cars. Not sure what the s550 6r80 cars have gained
04-27-2016, 04:10 PM
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ah f**k, my bad. Had to go find my old incar vids to refresh me: you guys are right, 2200rpms. oops!
