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Old 09-02-2016, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ajrothm
Me either...


My buddy's 13' GS A6 is a intake/cam/exhaust/converter car and dynoed 490 rwhp locked. This was with a custom Pat G cam. Car ran 11.0@126 on 18" drag radials in -200' DA... and I thought that was pretty good myself.

Threw a blower on it, 9 psi, made 700rwhp on a real aggressive tune. Added an RTS drag pack with 17s and ran 9.56@142... Pretty consistent 9.70 car in +2000' DA.

I've seen quite a few cam only LS3s go 125-126....definitely nothing in the 130s... Hell most LS7 stick cars are barely going low 130s..

This......... H/C Z06 that are set up right with good driver will trap low 130s. Ive noticed that a lot of these LS3 cars like to not tell the whole story
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Good runs mang! Hopefully I can get some FBO going on in Nanner to increase the butthurtz.
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Originally Posted by Johnnystock
I dont doubt OPs car is strong and he has the driver mod. But it doesnt make sense hes beating a cammed LS3 Vette. Unless he weights like 3000lbs.
How can anybody pay for a cam and not run it over stock limiter? Thats a half as s setup right there and the tune probably sucks. It falls back into a dip in the powerband and cant accelarate properly. It might be slower than a strong running boltons Vette.
It for sure don't run as strong as a fbo ls3 vette. To be honest he probably wouldn't take fbo 5gen.
Originally Posted by RealQuick
i guess you and I have different definitions of mild cam.

Generally speaking:
mild cam = up to 225 duration
medium cam = 226-235 duration
large cam = 236+ duration

i am not familiar with any LS3's that make 500rwhp cam only with mild (like you state) or even medium cams. The few that I can think of have larger cams like the night fury cam.
There are lots of cam only ls3s over 500whp. Highest one i seen has been 560.

Originally Posted by BADMOON
This......... H/C Z06 that are set up right with good driver will trap low 130s. Ive noticed that a lot of these LS3 cars like to not tell the whole story
Low 130s is easily bolt on territory for bolt on c6z.
Originally Posted by Poppacapp
Good runs mang! Hopefully I can get some FBO going on in Nanner to increase the butthurtz.
You first have to create some butthurtz. Your batting average is not really that great so far. 2 of 5 vs a stock 6gen and 2 of 4 vs a mbo untuned 5gen........including the early shut down

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Originally Posted by RealQuick
i guess you and I have different definitions of mild cam.

Generally speaking:
mild cam = up to 225 duration
medium cam = 226-235 duration
large cam = 236+ duration

i am not familiar with any LS3's that make 500rwhp cam only with mild (like you state) or even medium cams. The few that I can think of have larger cams like the night fury cam.
It has been done many times but I suppose I should have clarified 500rwhp m6 with the kitchen sink of bolt ons being thrown at it.

I guess cams being mild is subjective to each individual as well.
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I had g6x3 cam and Texas speed aftermarket castings. 2 inch headers. Fast 102/102

Even the wheels were forged and lighter than stock.

Guess it was a turd at only 505.
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Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
I had g6x3 cam and Texas speed aftermarket castings. 2 inch headers. Fast 102/102

Even the wheels were forged and lighter than stock.

Guess it was a turd at only 505.
Dyno is just a tuning tool anyway. All that matters is how that 505 performed at the track. That tells you the most.
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Dyno is just a tuning tool anyway. All that matters is how that 505 performed at the track. That tells you the most.
I couldn't agree more. I've seen some low dyno numbers but impressive track times. I've also seen some high dyno numbers and some sorry performance .
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
It for sure don't run as strong as a fbo ls3 vette. To be honest he probably wouldn't take fbo 5gen.


There are lots of cam only ls3s over 500whp. Highest one i seen has been 560.


Low 130s is easily bolt on territory for bolt on c6z.


You first have to create some butthurtz. Your batting average is not really that great so far. 2 of 5 vs a stock 6gen and 2 of 4 vs a mbo untuned 5gen........including the early shut down
I still believe a cam only ls3 vette could trap 130. Givin everything else is done the right way, as far as bolt ons and the right combination of things.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
You first have to create some butthurtz. Your batting average is not really that great so far. 2 of 5 vs a stock 6gen and 2 of 4 vs a mbo untuned 5gen........including the early shut down
If that's how you want to interpret it to feel better... okeydokey

Yall also interpret more mods on GM as to being equal mods on Furds...smh
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Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
I still believe a cam only ls3 vette could trap 130. Givin everything else is done the right way, as far as bolt ons and the right combination of things.
I posted guys that did it. There is not really any believing it after it's been done. It becones fact and proof of the guy driving the vette in this thread inadequatecy to do so.
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If that's how you want to interpret it to feel better... okeydokey

Yall also interpret more mods on GM as to being equal mods on Furds...smh
Yea......that's why you list a stock catback in all your vids as a mod
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Yea......that's why you list an optional catback that costs money and adds power over the stock base catback in all your vids as a mod
Fixed for accuracy
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Good running bro
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Fixed for accuracy
The only thing you fixed is proving you're as delusional as poppa
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
The only thing you fixed is proving you're as delusional as poppa
Why is it listed as a mod on the Corvette Forum fast list too?

better let all of them know
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Well...if a npp option is a mod then i guess a optional automatic is a mod to.

Your theory backs that up since you gave to pay for it.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Well...if a npp option is a mod then i guess a optional automatic is a mod to.

Your theory backs that up since you gave to pay for it.
NPP adds power over base exhaust. Auto makes less pah
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Auto don't make less power. The engine makes the same power.

Now....according to you since it's a option it should be listed as a mod.

Btw.....npp camaros are rated the same as non npp cars.

And a aftermarket cat back will make more power than a npp.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I posted guys that did it. There is not really any believing it after it's been done. It becones fact and proof of the guy driving the vette in this thread inadequatecy to do so.


Yea......that's why you list a stock catback in all your vids as a mod
When I typed the mods list up Hio I simply copied exactly the mods that Phil post in Kik for his car. I didnt make anything up or embelish anything. I had no wierd motive in mind when I made the video. I was simply trying to finish it quick and post it for everyone. But yall turned it into a drama fest and that ended the fun from meeting up completely. Now most likely I wont post anymore vids since yall cant seem to just say "Damn good race guys! Glad yall actually met up and raced vs all the keyboard racers on here!"

Know what I mean? It just gets old arguing over even the smallest things... I am kind of tired of it.
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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
When I typed the mods list up Hio I simply copied exactly the mods that Phil post in Kik for his car. I didnt make anything up or embelish anything. I had no wierd motive in mind when I made the video. I was simply trying to finish it quick and post it for everyone. But yall turned it into a drama fest and that ended the fun from meeting up completely. Now most likely I wont post anymore vids since yall cant seem to just say "Damn good race guys! Glad yall actually met up and raced vs all the keyboard racers on here!"

Know what I mean? It just gets old arguing over even the smallest things... I am kind of tired of it.
Don't ******* blame you one bit dude. The LS crew is kind of a sad company of dudes. Seem to ruin things with their ball gagging.
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That is pretty funny because I remember Phil going out of his way to mention NPP a bit when I'd ask what was done to his car.

Give him a lot of credit, at least Phil is honest and seems like a good dude.


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