2016 Corvette Stingray vs Coyote Mustangs
09-28-2016, 02:08 PM
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We both know there isn't a bro around that can beat this vette despite yet again outlandish claims from the BroGinas. This car did 503 at the wheels. On pump 93 octane. BroGinas have said LT1s are close to maxed out. Nope.
Car will be at Orlandospeedway Sunday weather permitting. Considering the BroGinas down here stripped with FTW seem to run high 11s and trap 118-120 depending on air means they are in trouble
Car will be at Orlandospeedway Sunday weather permitting. Considering the BroGinas down here stripped with FTW seem to run high 11s and trap 118-120 depending on air means they are in trouble
09-28-2016, 02:14 PM
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We both know there isn't a bro around that can beat this vette despite yet again outlandish claims from the BroGinas. This car did 503 at the wheels. On pump 93 octane. BroGinas have said LT1s are close to maxed out. Nope.
Car will be at Orlandospeedway Sunday weather permitting. Considering the BroGinas down here stripped with FTW seem to run high 11s and trap 118-120 depending on air means they are in trouble
Car will be at Orlandospeedway Sunday weather permitting. Considering the BroGinas down here stripped with FTW seem to run high 11s and trap 118-120 depending on air means they are in trouble
09-28-2016, 05:29 PM
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09-28-2016, 07:06 PM
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If true e85 is in the tank and the tuner is on point its worth 15 all day and even more sometimes.
E85 can be as low as 51%. Only way its gonna be 7rwp is if its low % and a weak tune. Also in some areas e85 is down do 70% or less across the board in colder months.
Just like the myth of e85 dedicated tunes producing more. They don't. Its just the person probably got some good e85 with verified content and tuned it properly. A properly tuned flex setup will account for this as well and adjust accordingly. People Comparing dedicated tunes with true E85 to flex tunes with E70 or less. That's the power difference. A flex tune is just as effective...its just differences in Ethanol content which is to blame.
As for the rest of the thread...once again comparing ragged out track cars on ftw or E to a daily vette on 93 and stock wheels. News flash. Its making 500rwhp on pump and is much lighter than a bro. Not really seeing what the argument here is. Apples to apples its game over. Unless someone can show a comparable bro on stock wheels and 93 that is faster at this track I see nothing more than what ifs and bench racing. Which is not allowed.
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09-28-2016, 07:14 PM
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Painting e85 gains with a broad brush. That's not how it works.
If true e85 is in the tank and the tuner is on point its worth 15 all day and even more sometimes.
E85 can be as low as 51%. Only way its gonna be 7rwp is if its low % and a weak tune. Also in some areas e85 is down do 70% or less across the board in colder months.
Just like the myth of e85 dedicated tunes producing more. They don't. Its just the person probably got some good e85 with verified content and tuned it properly. A properly tuned flex setup will account for this as well and adjust accordingly. People Comparing dedicated tunes with true E85 to flex tunes with E70 or less. That's the power difference. A flex tune is just as effective...its just differences in Ethanol content which is to blame.
As for the rest of the thread...once again comparing ragged out track cars on ftw or E to a daily vette on 93 and stock wheels. News flash. Its making 500rwhp on pump and is much lighter than a bro. Not really seeing what the argument here is. Apples to apples its game over. Unless someone can show a comparable bro on stock wheels and 93 that is faster at this track I see nothing more than what ifs and bench racing. Which is not allowed.
If true e85 is in the tank and the tuner is on point its worth 15 all day and even more sometimes.
E85 can be as low as 51%. Only way its gonna be 7rwp is if its low % and a weak tune. Also in some areas e85 is down do 70% or less across the board in colder months.
Just like the myth of e85 dedicated tunes producing more. They don't. Its just the person probably got some good e85 with verified content and tuned it properly. A properly tuned flex setup will account for this as well and adjust accordingly. People Comparing dedicated tunes with true E85 to flex tunes with E70 or less. That's the power difference. A flex tune is just as effective...its just differences in Ethanol content which is to blame.
As for the rest of the thread...once again comparing ragged out track cars on ftw or E to a daily vette on 93 and stock wheels. News flash. Its making 500rwhp on pump and is much lighter than a bro. Not really seeing what the argument here is. Apples to apples its game over. Unless someone can show a comparable bro on stock wheels and 93 that is faster at this track I see nothing more than what ifs and bench racing. Which is not allowed.
09-28-2016, 07:30 PM
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how else do you explain some cars making 20 if its not the tuner or the e content? dyno error? timing can be adjusted much further with good e85.
its worth plenty if done right and is true e85
we just had a 6g pick up 38 rwhp OVER the 11 rwhp it got from the 93 tune he did. Verified e85 and tuner is very good. 44x rwhp 45x rwtq with e85, cat delete and a CAI. Nothing more. Through an auto. Tslopers car.
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09-28-2016, 08:26 PM
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I tend to go off of real world results. Sorry about it. 7-15rwhp is the norm. Obviously a more modified car or a built motor with a hair higher compression is prone to gain a bit more.
So nobody can show me where a Br0 said e85 gains nothing? All I've seen is real world results gains claimed.
Should I just keep waiting?
So nobody can show me where a Br0 said e85 gains nothing? All I've seen is real world results gains claimed.
Should I just keep waiting?
09-28-2016, 10:09 PM
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Just like the myth of e85 dedicated tunes producing more. They don't. Its just the person probably got some good e85 with verified content and tuned it properly. A properly tuned flex setup will account for this as well and adjust accordingly. People Comparing dedicated tunes with true E85 to flex tunes with E70 or less. That's the power difference. A flex tune is just as effective...its just differences in Ethanol content which is to blame.
As for the rest of the thread...once again comparing ragged out track cars on ftw or E to a daily vette on 93 and stock wheels. News flash. Its making 500rwhp on pump and is much lighter than a bro. Not really seeing what the argument here is. Apples to apples its game over. Unless someone can show a comparable bro on stock wheels and 93 that is faster at this track I see nothing more than what ifs and bench racing. Which is not allowed.
As for the rest of the thread...once again comparing ragged out track cars on ftw or E to a daily vette on 93 and stock wheels. News flash. Its making 500rwhp on pump and is much lighter than a bro. Not really seeing what the argument here is. Apples to apples its game over. Unless someone can show a comparable bro on stock wheels and 93 that is faster at this track I see nothing more than what ifs and bench racing. Which is not allowed.
"Herp derp.... car still has stalk wheels.... herp derpity derp... and runs 93 octanez dee derps.... "
Woulda shoulda coulda. If you dont want to run stock wheels.. dont.. if you dont want to run E85... dont... but stop ******* whining about it.. damn....
09-28-2016, 10:09 PM
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09-28-2016, 10:19 PM
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Either compare the cars truly mod for mod or not at all. That's your game right? You bros are to blame for 90 % of this bullshit. All you ever see is...a bro did this with stock intake...or a bro did that with bolt ons....you guys invented this crap. You do similar things ALL THE TIME.
Cant have it both ways.
I don't care if its e85 or a cam or headers. Mustang owner Camaro owner civic owner. Downplaying and or leaving them out when comparing cars and trying to make them look equal is weak as F and you know it.
I don't know why this is such a complex issue. Its pretty damn simple. Car A runs 10s on 93 with stock wheels. Car B runs 10s on ftw, drag pack and whatever else. Brogina makes a blanket statement comparing car B to car A as if they are equal.
I don't care about all these things...run what you want...but you bros need to stop being asinine. Accept reality.
Cant have it both ways.
I don't care if its e85 or a cam or headers. Mustang owner Camaro owner civic owner. Downplaying and or leaving them out when comparing cars and trying to make them look equal is weak as F and you know it.
I don't know why this is such a complex issue. Its pretty damn simple. Car A runs 10s on 93 with stock wheels. Car B runs 10s on ftw, drag pack and whatever else. Brogina makes a blanket statement comparing car B to car A as if they are equal.
I don't care about all these things...run what you want...but you bros need to stop being asinine. Accept reality.
Last edited by UltraZLS1; 09-28-2016 at 10:36 PM.
09-28-2016, 10:24 PM
#76
I tend to go off of real world results. Sorry about it. 7-15rwhp is the norm. Obviously a more modified car or a built motor with a hair higher compression is prone to gain a bit more.
So nobody can show me where a Br0 said e85 gains nothing? All I've seen is real world results gains claimed.
Should I just keep waiting?
So nobody can show me where a Br0 said e85 gains nothing? All I've seen is real world results gains claimed.
Should I just keep waiting?
Ethanol content changes pump to pump. Especially in colder climates in colder months. More ethanol more power. A solid tune with full e85 is worth more than 7hp. Not sure what else I can say about it.
Im not sure where anyone said it gains nothing. But its constantly downplayed. Overlooked. not mentioned. Typical games.
09-28-2016, 11:40 PM
#77
Either compare the cars truly mod for mod or not at all. That's your game right? You bros are to blame for 90 % of this bullshit. All you ever see is...a bro did this with stock intake...or a bro did that with bolt ons....you guys invented this crap. You do similar things ALL THE TIME.
Cant have it both ways.
I don't care if its e85 or a cam or headers. Mustang owner Camaro owner civic owner. Downplaying and or leaving them out when comparing cars and trying to make them look equal is weak as F and you know it.
I don't know why this is such a complex issue. Its pretty damn simple. Car A runs 10s on 93 with stock wheels. Car B runs 10s on ftw, drag pack and whatever else. Brogina makes a blanket statement comparing car B to car A as if they are equal.
I don't care about all these things...run what you want...but you bros need to stop being asinine. Accept reality.
Cant have it both ways.
I don't care if its e85 or a cam or headers. Mustang owner Camaro owner civic owner. Downplaying and or leaving them out when comparing cars and trying to make them look equal is weak as F and you know it.
I don't know why this is such a complex issue. Its pretty damn simple. Car A runs 10s on 93 with stock wheels. Car B runs 10s on ftw, drag pack and whatever else. Brogina makes a blanket statement comparing car B to car A as if they are equal.
I don't care about all these things...run what you want...but you bros need to stop being asinine. Accept reality.
09-28-2016, 11:41 PM
#78
You just aren't getting it.
Ethanol content changes pump to pump. Especially in colder climates in colder months. More ethanol more power. A solid tune with full e85 is worth more than 7hp. Not sure what else I can say about it.
Im not sure where anyone said it gains nothing. But its constantly downplayed. Overlooked. not mentioned. Typical games.
Ethanol content changes pump to pump. Especially in colder climates in colder months. More ethanol more power. A solid tune with full e85 is worth more than 7hp. Not sure what else I can say about it.
Im not sure where anyone said it gains nothing. But its constantly downplayed. Overlooked. not mentioned. Typical games.
