6g ss vs 5.0 (both modded) neither my cars
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Yes mac...you too can outrun a 4 mod 6g with a mere bolt on coyote.
All you have to do is full bolt ons. Suspension. Weight reduction. Tune it for fuel that will cost you nearly 50 bucks a gallon. Get a nearly unstreetable huge stall. remove all the seats and remove the exhaust. Rev it to the very point of near failure. And log dozens of passes to perfection.
Because if not....a 4 mod full weight stock converter stock exhaust 6g has been as fast or faster than every single bolt on s550. On its first trip out on e85 and new tune lol
You do realize they just went tens bolt on this past year right? and with more mods. And just one of them. The 6g is on track to do it quicker and with less mods. Pray is going back on the 21st and this time he will actually have an aftermarket part on the motor...headers.
Ill have a similar setup and post my results as well. Probably wont beat race cars that people have destroyed....but Ill be confident against any equally modded 5.0 I assure you.
Im already .2 from the top 5 of a list of over 70 cars and im untuned lol. But oh yeah...im supposed to think im behind. I forgot.
All you have to do is full bolt ons. Suspension. Weight reduction. Tune it for fuel that will cost you nearly 50 bucks a gallon. Get a nearly unstreetable huge stall. remove all the seats and remove the exhaust. Rev it to the very point of near failure. And log dozens of passes to perfection.
Because if not....a 4 mod full weight stock converter stock exhaust 6g has been as fast or faster than every single bolt on s550. On its first trip out on e85 and new tune lol
You do realize they just went tens bolt on this past year right? and with more mods. And just one of them. The 6g is on track to do it quicker and with less mods. Pray is going back on the 21st and this time he will actually have an aftermarket part on the motor...headers.
Ill have a similar setup and post my results as well. Probably wont beat race cars that people have destroyed....but Ill be confident against any equally modded 5.0 I assure you.
Im already .2 from the top 5 of a list of over 70 cars and im untuned lol. But oh yeah...im supposed to think im behind. I forgot.
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As for me personally I'm happy with a full weight daily driver badass car that I can drive cross country on pump 93, but still run anywhere in the 10's. Grant it I'm not a track guru but I know a few ppl I totally trust who I will let track mine once I get it back. The br0 is a damn great car and performer and is hell of a car for the buck but I think some people get a little carried away when comparing it to a 6g.
Am I saying it's no comparison to a 6g? No because it is but for now the 6g (performance wise) the 6g is the better performer. Now 5g vs br0 is another story clearly.
Am I saying it's no comparison to a 6g? No because it is but for now the 6g (performance wise) the 6g is the better performer. Now 5g vs br0 is another story clearly.
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93 tune only. Nope.
Pops... you had cat back, e85, drag pack and lowering springs and barely beat a stock manual.
You have amnesia or just heavily blinded ? 93 only everything else stock gets walked. Period.
On point e85 tune only everything else stock drivers race edge to 6g. And I've seen about 15 vids showing this. Its obvious from yours as well.
Pops... you had cat back, e85, drag pack and lowering springs and barely beat a stock manual.
You have amnesia or just heavily blinded ? 93 only everything else stock gets walked. Period.
On point e85 tune only everything else stock drivers race edge to 6g. And I've seen about 15 vids showing this. Its obvious from yours as well.
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Show me one s550 running 11.9 with just 93 tune. Totally stock to the tire otherwise.
Show me one running 11.9 with just e85 tune totally stock otherwise
I can show you 4 or 5 bone stock 6g doing it. Been out a year less. Could also show you countless vids of stock 6g beating LBO s550s
Don't forget the drag pack. That doesn't help either I'm sure. Yep lowering springs will help especially at speed in a roll race. Cat back slowed him down. So did the cut air box and the catch can. Manual 6gs are faster than auto too even though it's getting uglier every day on the fast list. Even in trap speed they are way behind.
On planet br0 20 hp from a 93 tune will bridge a full half second gap. Got it
Show me one running 11.9 with just e85 tune totally stock otherwise
I can show you 4 or 5 bone stock 6g doing it. Been out a year less. Could also show you countless vids of stock 6g beating LBO s550s
Don't forget the drag pack. That doesn't help either I'm sure. Yep lowering springs will help especially at speed in a roll race. Cat back slowed him down. So did the cut air box and the catch can. Manual 6gs are faster than auto too even though it's getting uglier every day on the fast list. Even in trap speed they are way behind.
On planet br0 20 hp from a 93 tune will bridge a full half second gap. Got it
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Generally speaking of corse, I think it would take little bit more than just a 93 tune. On AVRAGE what does a 93 br0 run?
And I would say that your car does run good I give you that. Makes me wonder why more people didn't go auto actually. Did they ever fix that MT82 problem?
And I would say that your car does run good I give you that. Makes me wonder why more people didn't go auto actually. Did they ever fix that MT82 problem?
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Generally speaking of corse, I think it would take little bit more than just a 93 tune. On AVRAGE what does a 93 br0 run?
And I would say that your car does run good I give you that. Makes me wonder why more people didn't go auto actually. Did they ever fix that MT82 problem?
And I would say that your car does run good I give you that. Makes me wonder why more people didn't go auto actually. Did they ever fix that MT82 problem?
Pretty much. Just another deflection.
No one has ever done it. And the gains from a 93 tune alone can never make up for a half second. Not on this planet.
An e85 tune ALONE gets them very close. And again. It has never been done. It takes e85 and an additional effective bolt on of ones choice to surpass what several people have done in a stock 6g. Which has been out half as long with half again as many sales and half again tracking them with dedication. Pretty much 1/4 to 1/8 effective user base and still coming out far ahead in this argument
I'd also have to say the trap speed difference is closer than the et. I'd say it's about 3-4 mph stock to stock.
I was only out trapping a tune and drag pack s550 by 3 mph all night but was quicker by .5. The stock converter sucks and they have a lot less bottom end. Another point... what it takes for an s550 to beat a 6g from a roll will not be the same as at the strip/from a dig both hooking and stock converters
No one has ever done it. And the gains from a 93 tune alone can never make up for a half second. Not on this planet.
An e85 tune ALONE gets them very close. And again. It has never been done. It takes e85 and an additional effective bolt on of ones choice to surpass what several people have done in a stock 6g. Which has been out half as long with half again as many sales and half again tracking them with dedication. Pretty much 1/4 to 1/8 effective user base and still coming out far ahead in this argument
I'd also have to say the trap speed difference is closer than the et. I'd say it's about 3-4 mph stock to stock.
I was only out trapping a tune and drag pack s550 by 3 mph all night but was quicker by .5. The stock converter sucks and they have a lot less bottom end. Another point... what it takes for an s550 to beat a 6g from a roll will not be the same as at the strip/from a dig both hooking and stock converters
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At a track, 93 octane tune only S550s are running low 12s, which is what the A8 6gens are averaging.
I roll raced the manual 6gen, which is a better roll race car than the A8. As stated above, at a dragstrip, a 93octane tune only S550 will run low 12s with the average stock 6gens.
I roll raced the manual 6gen, which is a better roll race car than the A8. As stated above, at a dragstrip, a 93octane tune only S550 will run low 12s with the average stock 6gens.
Yep the fastest 93 car vs average 6 g. That holds no water. Again show me 1 car that has done it 93 or e85 only. I can show you 4 6g currently totally stock 11.9. And more people tracking the s550 and for longer. It's not rocket science. Your example of 6g was garbage they were not hooking. Mappins called you out on that. My example was a drag pack auto car dead hooking. I literally embarrassed it
Again apples to apples not happening. And you couldn't have even done it with your car e85 only either. Your vids prove this. I don't know what you are trying to argue. You really want me to believe a 93 tune alone adds a half second to an s550. Give me a break. And yeah I do get a little mad when something as dumb as that is trying to be sold. It's simply untrue.
Sure it's possible to run with the 6g 93 tune. It's possible totally stock. That's not the point. All things equal an s550 is not capable of the same times with just a 93 tune.
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You seem mad man... I don't think my original post was off base, yet you seem to have taken it personal. So less than 10 6gens have run 11s stock... out of thousands... and MANY more in the 12s.... but whatever floats your boat.
I watched 3 different 6gens go mid 12s(1 manual, 2 A8s) in -100 to 0 DA same day at the track... all trapping 114-115. So my example could hold as much value as yours right?
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115 traps and mid 12s is a traction problem. As was called out by mappins. They were blowing the tires off rolling through the water box.
As said.... my example was a tuned auto on a drag pack dead hooking. And I was running on the same night. That holds about a gallon yours holds about an eye droppers worth
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I'm not taking it personal I just find it completely wrong. So obviously wrong that it's annoying. Even more annoying and bewildering that you've talked yourself into believing it against all the data and even your own personal experience.
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Yes mac...you too can outrun a 4 mod 6g with a mere bolt on coyote.
All you have to do is full bolt ons. Suspension. Weight reduction. Tune it for fuel that will cost you nearly 50 bucks a gallon. Get a nearly unstreetable huge stall. remove all the seats and remove the exhaust. Rev it to the very point of near failure. And log dozens of passes to perfection.
Because if not....a 4 mod full weight stock converter stock exhaust 6g has been as fast or faster than every single bolt on s550. On its first trip out on e85 and new tune lol
You do realize they just went tens bolt on this past year right? and with more mods. And just one of them. The 6g is on track to do it quicker and with less mods. Pray is going back on the 21st and this time he will actually have an aftermarket part on the motor...headers.
Ill have a similar setup and post my results as well. Probably wont beat race cars that people have destroyed....but Ill be confident against any equally modded 5.0 I assure you.
Im already .2 from the top 5 of a list of over 70 cars and im untuned lol. But oh yeah...im supposed to think im behind. I forgot.
All you have to do is full bolt ons. Suspension. Weight reduction. Tune it for fuel that will cost you nearly 50 bucks a gallon. Get a nearly unstreetable huge stall. remove all the seats and remove the exhaust. Rev it to the very point of near failure. And log dozens of passes to perfection.
Because if not....a 4 mod full weight stock converter stock exhaust 6g has been as fast or faster than every single bolt on s550. On its first trip out on e85 and new tune lol
You do realize they just went tens bolt on this past year right? and with more mods. And just one of them. The 6g is on track to do it quicker and with less mods. Pray is going back on the 21st and this time he will actually have an aftermarket part on the motor...headers.
Ill have a similar setup and post my results as well. Probably wont beat race cars that people have destroyed....but Ill be confident against any equally modded 5.0 I assure you.
Im already .2 from the top 5 of a list of over 70 cars and im untuned lol. But oh yeah...im supposed to think im behind. I forgot.
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Yes mac...you too can outrun a 4 mod 6g with a mere bolt on coyote.
All you have to do is full bolt ons. Suspension. Weight reduction. Tune it for fuel that will cost you nearly 50 bucks a gallon. Get a nearly unstreetable huge stall. remove all the seats and remove the exhaust. Rev it to the very point of near failure. And log dozens of passes to perfection.
Because if not....a 4 mod full weight stock converter stock exhaust 6g has been as fast or faster than every single bolt on s550. On its first trip out on e85 and new tune lol
You do realize they just went tens bolt on this past year right? and with more mods. And just one of them. The 6g is on track to do it quicker and with less mods. Pray is going back on the 21st and this time he will actually have an aftermarket part on the motor...headers.
Ill have a similar setup and post my results as well. Probably wont beat race cars that people have destroyed....but Ill be confident against any equally modded 5.0 I assure you.
Im already .2 from the top 5 of a list of over 70 cars and im untuned lol. But oh yeah...im supposed to think im behind. I forgot.
All you have to do is full bolt ons. Suspension. Weight reduction. Tune it for fuel that will cost you nearly 50 bucks a gallon. Get a nearly unstreetable huge stall. remove all the seats and remove the exhaust. Rev it to the very point of near failure. And log dozens of passes to perfection.
Because if not....a 4 mod full weight stock converter stock exhaust 6g has been as fast or faster than every single bolt on s550. On its first trip out on e85 and new tune lol
You do realize they just went tens bolt on this past year right? and with more mods. And just one of them. The 6g is on track to do it quicker and with less mods. Pray is going back on the 21st and this time he will actually have an aftermarket part on the motor...headers.
Ill have a similar setup and post my results as well. Probably wont beat race cars that people have destroyed....but Ill be confident against any equally modded 5.0 I assure you.
Im already .2 from the top 5 of a list of over 70 cars and im untuned lol. But oh yeah...im supposed to think im behind. I forgot.