96 cobra vs 95 trans am
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Originally Posted by TT427
never trust junk with a dizzy in the back...
Hio sounds like a little bitch saying "We still have this", knowing damn good and well he's never going that direction with his car.
I bet that LS7 gets sold in the next 2 years.
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You sound like the bitch on a ls site tryiing to preach the merits of a shitty pushrod 30p00 ![The Jester](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_jest.gif)
I could sell the ls7. The ls6 has plenty to take out na furd **** and plenty of boosted ones
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I could sell the ls7. The ls6 has plenty to take out na furd **** and plenty of boosted ones
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If he puts the 7 in I am sure it will cause as much if not more hurt feelings than it does now.
If not who cares. He likes the N/ A cars, and on the street the avrage street car would need boost to get around it.
If not who cares. He likes the N/ A cars, and on the street the avrage street car would need boost to get around it.
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You trying to say that Ford makes a superior factory head than GM?
I said cheaper to make power, I didn't say that it makes more power. You can go get a 5.3L out of a junkyard for $500, get a texas speed H/C/I package and some long tube headers for an additional $2300 and put down 440RWP.
On the Ford side, you can go get a Mark VIII motor from the junkyard for $500, get a $3600 supercharger kit, and make 440RWP.
Same power, more cost.
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You trying to say that Ford makes a superior factory head than GM?
I said cheaper to make power, I didn't say that it makes more power. You can go get a 5.3L out of a junkyard for $500, get a texas speed H/C/I package and some long tube headers for an additional $2300 and put down 440RWP.
On the Ford side, you can go get a Mark VIII motor from the junkyard for $500, get a $3600 supercharger kit, and make 440RWP.
Same power, more cost.
I said cheaper to make power, I didn't say that it makes more power. You can go get a 5.3L out of a junkyard for $500, get a texas speed H/C/I package and some long tube headers for an additional $2300 and put down 440RWP.
On the Ford side, you can go get a Mark VIII motor from the junkyard for $500, get a $3600 supercharger kit, and make 440RWP.
Same power, more cost.
http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/dynod...w-numbers.html
390rwhp and 366rwtq.
https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...3-dyno-484580/
I got 377/356 out of it.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...c-package.html
407.3rwhp 380.2rwtq
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dyno-gues...3-h-c-i-e.html
370 rwhp with the cutouts open.
You seem a bit high on your numbers.
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For a personal drag car? They are good heads but nothing special or unique. Soft mid range, weak exhaust for their runner size, and besides that they are not even 3v heads like discussed - they just use a 3v manifold so not even applicable here.
LSx, SBC, and Mopar all have better cylinder heads available then those heads. Who cares though? If you like em, great. Anything can be made fast...but its easier for some then others. Doesn't mean its a bad platform - I have an LT1 which is a piece of ****, but still fun and I like it. If I wasn't so attached to the 4gen platform with its rear cylinders under the damn dashboard I'd have a BBC setup and make 900hp on pump gas NA and throw a 300 shot on it. Twice the power and probably would have SAVED money
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Yep, seriously. In a narrow rule set, restricted class, cube limited, HP dyno competition I'm sure there are events where they can clear a field.
For a personal drag car? They are good heads but nothing special or unique. Soft mid range, weak exhaust for their runner size, and besides that they are not even 3v heads like discussed - they just use a 3v manifold so not even applicable here.
LSx, SBC, and Mopar all have better cylinder heads available then those heads. Who cares though? If you like em, great. Anything can be made fast...but its easier for some then others. Doesn't mean its a bad platform - I have an LT1 which is a piece of ****, but still fun and I like it. If I wasn't so attached to the 4gen platform with its rear cylinders under the damn dashboard I'd have a BBC setup and make 900hp on pump gas NA and throw a 300 shot on it. Twice the power and probably would have SAVED money
. It is what it is, always something better and faster so no use arguing who is the bigger fish in the pond.
For a personal drag car? They are good heads but nothing special or unique. Soft mid range, weak exhaust for their runner size, and besides that they are not even 3v heads like discussed - they just use a 3v manifold so not even applicable here.
LSx, SBC, and Mopar all have better cylinder heads available then those heads. Who cares though? If you like em, great. Anything can be made fast...but its easier for some then others. Doesn't mean its a bad platform - I have an LT1 which is a piece of ****, but still fun and I like it. If I wasn't so attached to the 4gen platform with its rear cylinders under the damn dashboard I'd have a BBC setup and make 900hp on pump gas NA and throw a 300 shot on it. Twice the power and probably would have SAVED money
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all this talk about power from this or that and none of it can touch BBC. you need 1200 HP? BBC can give it to you without trying
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You trying to say that Ford makes a superior factory head than GM?
I said cheaper to make power, I didn't say that it makes more power. You can go get a 5.3L out of a junkyard for $500, get a texas speed H/C/I package and some long tube headers for an additional $2300 and put down 440RWP.
On the Ford side, you can go get a Mark VIII motor from the junkyard for $500, get a $3600 supercharger kit, and make 440RWP.
Same power, more cost.
I said cheaper to make power, I didn't say that it makes more power. You can go get a 5.3L out of a junkyard for $500, get a texas speed H/C/I package and some long tube headers for an additional $2300 and put down 440RWP.
On the Ford side, you can go get a Mark VIII motor from the junkyard for $500, get a $3600 supercharger kit, and make 440RWP.
Same power, more cost.
It is cheaper and the ls will make more power period. The dumbass theoretical combo bullshit you came up with means nothing.
But if you were gonna go that route you could boost them both and watch the 4.junk scatter it's self @ 450whp while the 5.3 would march to 600 with out issue. Gen4 bottom ends are pretty damn strong and even gen3 stuff is stronger than 4.junk
Are you sure they make that much?
http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/dynod...w-numbers.html
390rwhp and 366rwtq.
https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...3-dyno-484580/
I got 377/356 out of it.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...c-package.html
407.3rwhp 380.2rwtq
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dyno-gues...3-h-c-i-e.html
370 rwhp with the cutouts open.
You seem a bit high on your numbers.
http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/dynod...w-numbers.html
390rwhp and 366rwtq.
https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...3-dyno-484580/
I got 377/356 out of it.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...c-package.html
407.3rwhp 380.2rwtq
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dyno-gues...3-h-c-i-e.html
370 rwhp with the cutouts open.
You seem a bit high on your numbers.
Although i would start with a 5.7, 6.0, 6.2,7L. yhere are those choices with the ls Series. Not my problem there isn't with the furds.
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Angry post ^
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If you're gonna talk ti me don't come up with dumb ****. Where the **** did i say the furd head was better? If anything it's the opposite of that.
It is cheaper and the ls will make more power period. The dumbass theoretical combo bullshit you came up with means nothing.
But if you were gonna go that route you could boost them both and watch the 4.junk scatter it's self @ 450whp while the 5.3 would march to 600 with out issue. Gen4 bottom ends are pretty damn strong and even gen3 stuff is stronger than 4.junk
It is cheaper and the ls will make more power period. The dumbass theoretical combo bullshit you came up with means nothing.
But if you were gonna go that route you could boost them both and watch the 4.junk scatter it's self @ 450whp while the 5.3 would march to 600 with out issue. Gen4 bottom ends are pretty damn strong and even gen3 stuff is stronger than 4.junk
So now you're agreeing that the 5.0L is at a disadvantage to the LS3 due to a lack of displacement? Because if that's the case, then you should agree that boost is merely an equalizer.
If you want to get theoretical, you can forge the internals of the 4.6L and moon boost it to whatever power number you want.
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The reality is the 5.br0 is at a disadvantage period. You talk in circles and look like a dumbass.
You can forge the internals of the 5.3 to moon boost ....you could use a 4.8....a 5.7.....a 6.0....a 6.2.....a 7.....even a 7.4.
What was your point there?
My point to you is you need to leave the 14s at some point ir stfu
You can forge the internals of the 5.3 to moon boost ....you could use a 4.8....a 5.7.....a 6.0....a 6.2.....a 7.....even a 7.4.
What was your point there?
My point to you is you need to leave the 14s at some point ir stfu
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The reality is the 5.br0 is at a disadvantage period. You talk in circles and look like a dumbass.
You can forge the internals of the 5.3 to moon boost ....you could use a 4.8....a 5.7.....a 6.0....a 6.2.....a 7.....even a 7.4.
What was your point there?
My point to you is you need to leave the 14s at some point ir stfu
You can forge the internals of the 5.3 to moon boost ....you could use a 4.8....a 5.7.....a 6.0....a 6.2.....a 7.....even a 7.4.
What was your point there?
My point to you is you need to leave the 14s at some point ir stfu
So we are in agreement that Ford and Chevy can make the same power, its just about the money?
No, the 5.0L is at a disadvantage NA due to a lack of displacement, but fortunately no one cares about that when boost is available.