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Old 07-11-2017, 08:35 AM
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The LT1 will be in the lead until the optispark dies.

(I had a '94 Z28 that ate those things on a constant basis)
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Originally Posted by Y2K_SS
The LT1 will be in the lead until the optispark dies.

(I had a '94 Z28 that ate those things on a constant basis)
never trust junk with a dizzy up front...
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Originally Posted by TT427
never trust junk with a dizzy in the back...
Fixed.


Hio sounds like a little bitch saying "We still have this", knowing damn good and well he's never going that direction with his car.

I bet that LS7 gets sold in the next 2 years.
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You sound like the bitch on a ls site tryiing to preach the merits of a shitty pushrod 30p00

I could sell the ls7. The ls6 has plenty to take out na furd **** and plenty of boosted ones
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If he puts the 7 in I am sure it will cause as much if not more hurt feelings than it does now.

If not who cares. He likes the N/ A cars, and on the street the avrage street car would need boost to get around it.
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probably pull a 0.8 60' with that ls7 first pass
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Originally Posted by TT427
never trust junk with a dizzy up front...
Except some of the BBC motors with the belt drive dizzy on the timing covers. Then you know they are getting spun
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Funny even the ls based truck motors 5.3 and 6.0 are better than the turd motors and make tons of power on a stock block
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Willfully blind would be not understanding the head feeds the motor and that more cubes do not necessarily mean more air.

Cheaper and makes more power. You coulda just said ls is better.

You trying to say that Ford makes a superior factory head than GM?

I said cheaper to make power, I didn't say that it makes more power. You can go get a 5.3L out of a junkyard for $500, get a texas speed H/C/I package and some long tube headers for an additional $2300 and put down 440RWP.

On the Ford side, you can go get a Mark VIII motor from the junkyard for $500, get a $3600 supercharger kit, and make 440RWP.

Same power, more cost.
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Originally Posted by JC316
You trying to say that Ford makes a superior factory head than GM?

I said cheaper to make power, I didn't say that it makes more power. You can go get a 5.3L out of a junkyard for $500, get a texas speed H/C/I package and some long tube headers for an additional $2300 and put down 440RWP.

On the Ford side, you can go get a Mark VIII motor from the junkyard for $500, get a $3600 supercharger kit, and make 440RWP.

Same power, more cost.
Are you sure they make that much?

http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/dynod...w-numbers.html
390rwhp and 366rwtq.

https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...3-dyno-484580/
I got 377/356 out of it.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...c-package.html
407.3rwhp 380.2rwtq

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dyno-gues...3-h-c-i-e.html
370 rwhp with the cutouts open.


You seem a bit high on your numbers.
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Originally Posted by assasinator
Seriously lol.

Those heads won engine masters. Chevy LS3 heads in any form can't touch those 3v heads. I will take kaase's heads over factory anything.
Yep, seriously. In a narrow rule set, restricted class, cube limited, HP dyno competition I'm sure there are events where they can clear a field.

For a personal drag car? They are good heads but nothing special or unique. Soft mid range, weak exhaust for their runner size, and besides that they are not even 3v heads like discussed - they just use a 3v manifold so not even applicable here.

LSx, SBC, and Mopar all have better cylinder heads available then those heads. Who cares though? If you like em, great. Anything can be made fast...but its easier for some then others. Doesn't mean its a bad platform - I have an LT1 which is a piece of ****, but still fun and I like it. If I wasn't so attached to the 4gen platform with its rear cylinders under the damn dashboard I'd have a BBC setup and make 900hp on pump gas NA and throw a 300 shot on it. Twice the power and probably would have SAVED money . It is what it is, always something better and faster so no use arguing who is the bigger fish in the pond.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
You sound like the bitch on a ls site tryiing to preach the merits of a shitty pushrod 30p00

I could sell the ls7. The ls6 has plenty to take out na furd **** and plenty of boosted ones
Snail95 came to this forum 8 years ago, specifically to troll. Back when he had a 105 mph h/c/i cobro that got yanked hard by stock ls1's. The kid will never have anything worth half a ****.
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Originally Posted by 408-99-f
If he puts the 7 in I am sure it will cause as much if not more hurt feelings than it does now.

If not who cares. He likes the N/ A cars, and on the street the avrage street car would need boost to get around it.
Exactly who cares he will still get **** on by GT500s. Only because of my hidden 75 shot of course
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Originally Posted by Puck
Yep, seriously. In a narrow rule set, restricted class, cube limited, HP dyno competition I'm sure there are events where they can clear a field.

For a personal drag car? They are good heads but nothing special or unique. Soft mid range, weak exhaust for their runner size, and besides that they are not even 3v heads like discussed - they just use a 3v manifold so not even applicable here.

LSx, SBC, and Mopar all have better cylinder heads available then those heads. Who cares though? If you like em, great. Anything can be made fast...but its easier for some then others. Doesn't mean its a bad platform - I have an LT1 which is a piece of ****, but still fun and I like it. If I wasn't so attached to the 4gen platform with its rear cylinders under the damn dashboard I'd have a BBC setup and make 900hp on pump gas NA and throw a 300 shot on it. Twice the power and probably would have SAVED money . It is what it is, always something better and faster so no use arguing who is the bigger fish in the pond.
BBC... NOW YOU ARE TALKING.

all this talk about power from this or that and none of it can touch BBC. you need 1200 HP? BBC can give it to you without trying
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Originally Posted by 408-99-f
If he puts the 7 in I am sure it will cause as much if not more hurt feelings than it does now.

If not who cares. He likes the N/ A cars, and on the street the avrage street car would need boost to get around it.
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Originally Posted by JC316
You trying to say that Ford makes a superior factory head than GM?

I said cheaper to make power, I didn't say that it makes more power. You can go get a 5.3L out of a junkyard for $500, get a texas speed H/C/I package and some long tube headers for an additional $2300 and put down 440RWP.

On the Ford side, you can go get a Mark VIII motor from the junkyard for $500, get a $3600 supercharger kit, and make 440RWP.

Same power, more cost.
If you're gonna talk ti me don't come up with dumb ****. Where the **** did i say the furd head was better? If anything it's the opposite of that.

It is cheaper and the ls will make more power period. The dumbass theoretical combo bullshit you came up with means nothing.

But if you were gonna go that route you could boost them both and watch the 4.junk scatter it's self @ 450whp while the 5.3 would march to 600 with out issue. Gen4 bottom ends are pretty damn strong and even gen3 stuff is stronger than 4.junk

Originally Posted by WisT02ws6
Are you sure they make that much?

http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/dynod...w-numbers.html
390rwhp and 366rwtq.

https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...3-dyno-484580/
I got 377/356 out of it.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...c-package.html
407.3rwhp 380.2rwtq

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dyno-gues...3-h-c-i-e.html
370 rwhp with the cutouts open.


You seem a bit high on your numbers.
All pretty shitty combos really. Most are for trucks and trying to keep power peak @ 6k or so. If you're gonna do a 5.3 spin that bitch to 7500. Set up right it could very likely make more than 440.

Although i would start with a 5.7, 6.0, 6.2,7L. yhere are those choices with the ls Series. Not my problem there isn't with the furds.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
If you're gonna talk ti me don't come up with dumb ****. Where the **** did i say the furd head was better? If anything it's the opposite of that.

It is cheaper and the ls will make more power period. The dumbass theoretical combo bullshit you came up with means nothing.

But if you were gonna go that route you could boost them both and watch the 4.junk scatter it's self @ 450whp while the 5.3 would march to 600 with out issue. Gen4 bottom ends are pretty damn strong and even gen3 stuff is stronger than 4.junk
We were comparing a 302ci to a 376ci, and how that was unfair, when you brought up that the heads have more to do with air than the displacement. It seemed that you were implying that the 302ci was not at a disadvantage due to having a better head than the 376ci.

So now you're agreeing that the 5.0L is at a disadvantage to the LS3 due to a lack of displacement? Because if that's the case, then you should agree that boost is merely an equalizer.

If you want to get theoretical, you can forge the internals of the 4.6L and moon boost it to whatever power number you want.
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The reality is the 5.br0 is at a disadvantage period. You talk in circles and look like a dumbass.

You can forge the internals of the 5.3 to moon boost ....you could use a 4.8....a 5.7.....a 6.0....a 6.2.....a 7.....even a 7.4.

What was your point there?

My point to you is you need to leave the 14s at some point ir stfu
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
The reality is the 5.br0 is at a disadvantage period. You talk in circles and look like a dumbass.

You can forge the internals of the 5.3 to moon boost ....you could use a 4.8....a 5.7.....a 6.0....a 6.2.....a 7.....even a 7.4.

What was your point there?

My point to you is you need to leave the 14s at some point ir stfu

So we are in agreement that Ford and Chevy can make the same power, its just about the money?


No, the 5.0L is at a disadvantage NA due to a lack of displacement, but fortunately no one cares about that when boost is available.
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Its funny when the ls motors start playing the boosted games. Buy a 6.0 from a junkyard slap a supercharger on a stock bottem end run 15 lbs of boost and make 650 rwhp not bad


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