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Old 09-07-2017, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Not me....once moving 5.br0s don't pull that hard. They gaun their momentum from massive gear advantage to get moving then kinda peter out. Not nearly as bad as the old modulars but similar. The zl1 is no doubt gradually bleeding off tm and just pulling harder and harder.

Oj car went 117 i think to if i remember right.
My S550 back halfed harder than the LT1s. So much for that theory.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Not me....once moving 5.br0s don't pull that hard. They gaun their momentum from massive gear advantage to get moving then kinda peter out. Not nearly as bad as the old modulars but similar. The zl1 is no doubt gradually bleeding off tm and just pulling harder and harder.

Oj car went 117 i think to if i remember right.
It used to be a 117 car, yes.
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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
My S550 back halfed harder than the LT1s. So much for that theory.
You mean your more modded car that lost to less modded lts. If i remember right prey out et'd you and out mph'd you with less mods.

We seen your cars top end. Untuned 5gen ran better up top. When it was a 113 car or less vs your 117 car.

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It used to be a 117 car, yes.
Ok....what is it now? Changes?
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I put a GT350 Manifold/tb on it. It ran 11.62@120.2 with a DA over 1,000 higher than my last passes.
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OJ's car running good as usual.
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That's cool.....i typically subract 4 mph trap for 5br0 real world roll performance
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
You mean your more modded car that lost to less modded lts. If i remember right prey out et'd you and out mph'd you with less mods.

We seen your cars top end. Untuned 5gen ran better up top. When it was a 113 car or less vs your 117 car.

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Still doesn't change the fact that my car backhalfed harder.

Also we know full well the gear splits happened on the Phil race.. won't delve back into that one. And our cars at the time of the race were similar capable trapping cars. End of subject for me.
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Originally Posted by V8EATR
I put a GT350 Manifold/tb on it. It ran 11.62@120.2 with a DA over 1,000 higher than my last passes.
you still have a few mph left on the table
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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
Still doesn't change the fact that my car backhalfed harder.

Also we know full well the gear splits happened on the Phil race.. won't delve back into that one. And our cars at the time of the race were similar capable trapping cars. End of subject for me.
Delve back into it man. You're goin through right now what we were with that 5gen and tm killing it. One would think you would understand that now.

Phils car trapped 113 after yalls run. And that was him working on the tune some after yalls run. Of course he was learning then so still not optimal. But that's what it did. The more tm he pulled the faster it started goin. The **** was hid everywhere in the tune.

The ls3 is just stronger up top. Just how it is. The lt is to once the tm gets worked out and you start swinging the cam the way you did in your 5br0. To make a comment like you did is pretty dumb at this point. It took mods for your 5br0 to run with your vettes FIRST time out. Hell in similar da your fbo 5br0 was only out on this stock car by .4. Tire and tune only on that vette will cover that.
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They back half pretty similar in equal conditions. It's also easier to back half more when your front half is slower. Doesn't mean the bro has stronger top end necessarily
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Delve back into it man. You're goin through right now what we were with that 5gen and tm killing it. One would think you would understand that now.

Phils car trapped 113 after yalls run. And that was him working on the tune some after yalls run. Of course he was learning then so still not optimal. But that's what it did. The more tm he pulled the faster it started goin. The **** was hid everywhere in the tune.

The ls3 is just stronger up top. Just how it is. The lt is to once the tm gets worked out and you start swinging the cam the way you did in your 5br0. To make a comment like you did is pretty dumb at this point. It took mods for your 5br0 to run with your vettes FIRST time out. Hell in similar da your fbo 5br0 was only out on this stock car by .4. Tire and tune only on that vette will cover that.

if the LS3 is stronger on top end, why did my car still out back half Phils car on our best runs? Hmm... food for thought.
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Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
They back half pretty similar in equal conditions. It's also easier to back half more when your front half is slower. Doesn't mean the bro has stronger top end necessarily
Thats all A8 gearing in the first 330-660. I even backhalfed stronger than Pray did same day same track. He has even mentioned how the 5.0s backhalf harder to me
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I am not trying to stir up another debate.. just stating what my car actually did.
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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
Thats all A8 gearing in the first 330-660. I even backhalfed stronger than Pray did same day same track. He has even mentioned how the 5.0s backhalf harder to me
He was still on stock manifold.
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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
Thats all A8 gearing in the first 330-660. I even backhalfed stronger than Pray did same day same track. He has even mentioned how the 5.0s backhalf harder to me
Then why did you buy a LT1 car.
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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
if the LS3 is stronger on top end, why did my car still out back half Phils car on our best runs? Hmm... food for thought.
Not sure that it did. As a matter of fact i know it didn't. Feel free to post your slip.

Besides his car was heavier and had no drag pak and bigger brakes. Preferably post a slip with your stock front on it to keep it equal if you really wanna see the difference.

Fact is that in its final form his car made significantly more power and you avoided that car like the plague.......and rightly so
It woulda been very one sided. I'm not talking ****. You simply don't understand how well the car ran and even the improvement in his driving.

Also......you see how strandled gm cars are with tm vs running your 5br0 with no tm. Think about it.
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Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
He was still on stock manifold.
Prays ported manifold flows as good as the Ported MSD. he just posted slips from similar conditions from the stock mani and msd. 1mph trap difference and 1 tenth. MSD definitely not worth it bang for buck
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Originally Posted by kinglt-1
Then why did you buy a LT1 car.
Because I like the C7 Vettes. I buy what I like.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Not sure that it did. As a matter of fact i know it didn't. Feel free to post your slip.

Besides his car was heavier and had no drag pak and bigger brakes. Preferably post a slip with your stock front on it to keep it equal if you really wanna see the difference.

Fact is that in its final form his car made significantly more power and you avoided that car like the plague.......and rightly so
It woulda been very one sided. I'm not talking ****. You simply don't understand how well the car ran and even the improvement in his driving.

Also......you see how strandled gm cars are with tm vs running your 5br0 with no tm. Think about it.
Not going debate with you.

I out et'd, out trapped, and out back halfed. His car was manual, mine was auto. Hard to compare dyno pulls on that.

Bottom line.. My car was faster and quicker.

I avoided noone. Plenty of invites were extended to meet at the track.

Have a nice night
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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
Prays ported manifold flows as good as the Ported MSD. he just posted slips from similar conditions from the stock mani and msd. 1mph trap difference and 1 tenth. MSD definitely not worth it bang for buck
It's worth it with a cam stock manifold drops off like a rock


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