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Old 09-26-2017, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Auto cars even go over 540.

Ls/lt stuff puck up much more per psi than your furd ****.
Broad statement which isnt true.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Auto cars even go over 540.

Ls/lt stuff puck up much more per psi than your furd ****.
You are a fool. The 5.8 makes wayyyy more power with the same rotor pack. We have already been through this. They are almost 100whp behind mod for mod. The 5.4 is 50+ as well.
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The same rotor pack don't mean **** dumbass. It runs at 5 more lb of boost.

Trinity 662hp ÷ 15lb= 44.13 hp/per lb of boost

Zl1 580hp ÷ 9lb = 64.44 hp/per lb of boost

Zr1 636 ÷ 10lb = 63.6 hp/per lb of boost

Lt4 650 ÷ 9lb = 72.22 hp/per lb of boost

Any of those ls/lt engines running at the same atmosphere and efficiency as the trinity will make more power period.

You can jack your self off with this rotir pack bullshit. But the blowers are different. ....the zr1 can't even get to 15psi like the trinity with the same rotor pack. The blowers are different and the 6.2 just flows more air period. It's why your mod motor crap can't hang na.
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Doesn't really matter cuz the trinity is going to have to invest in a better bottom end. The lt4 is safe to around 1000 rwhp. The trinity starts popping at 7-800 rwhp.
Yep people have done more. But it well known the bottom end is questionable on them. The hardcore ford racing crowd doesn't think much of the trinity
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
The same rotor pack don't mean **** dumbass. It runs at 5 more lb of boost.

Trinity 662hp ÷ 15lb= 44.13 hp/per lb of boost

Zl1 580hp ÷ 9lb = 64.44 hp/per lb of boost

Zr1 636 ÷ 10lb = 63.6 hp/per lb of boost

Lt4 650 ÷ 9lb = 72.22 hp/per lb of boost

Any of those ls/lt engines running at the same atmosphere and efficiency as the trinity will make more power period.

You can jack your self off with this rotir pack bullshit. But the blowers are different. ....the zr1 can't even get to 15psi like the trinity with the same rotor pack. The blowers are different and the 6.2 just flows more air period. It's why your mod motor crap can't hang na.
Are you mental? Do you not grasp reality? The only way to truly compare them is to have the same intake, t/b, rotor pack, case and exhaust. Then run them with the same size upper pulley and balancer. However that is not possible. So the next best thing is to compare them pulley for pulley with the same size rotor pack. The result is the ls9 CAN NOT make compareable power PERIOD. It is no secret when the 5.8 makes ~850 all out with a SLB and the ls9 is lucky to make ~750. Why does it make ~100 less to the wheel Doug? Are you afraid to admit it? The 5.4 will make about 810 with the same 2.3 case. Again wayyy more than any SLB 6.2 with a 2.3 TVS or any tvs for that matter sittting on top.

So now you think the 6.2 can not see more than 15lbs with a 2.3? Would you like me to post a link proving you wrong?

So untill you can tell me why the make almost 100 less to the wheels with all out bolton combos with the same 2300 TVS then you have no argument. No the motor is to "BIG" for the blower BS is not a legit argument. The 5.4 is bigger than the 4.6 yet will make more power regardless of blower size.





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Doesn't really matter cuz the trinity is going to have to invest in a better bottom end. The lt4 is safe to around 1000 rwhp. The trinity starts popping at 7-800 rwhp.
Yep people have done more. But it well known the bottom end is questionable on them. The hardcore ford racing crowd doesn't think much of the trinity
Dumb argument. Trinitys have let go at 700 and have held 900 just like the lsa, ls9 etc..... The hardcore racing crowd does not think much of the lsa/9 either. When you can take a sleeved 5.4 with a decent rod/piston and make 1500+ there is no need for a ls9 anything I will take a trinity over any of the iron 5.4s. Alot of idiots on the internet talking out their *** nowadays.

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You're the mental one. You don't even want the same blower.....just the same rotor pack. Yea....**** the rest of the intake track you moron.

Fact is the ls make more power per psi if boost because it4that much more efficient. Fact is running a engine at 15psi nearly doubles it's na output with a decently efficient system. It's called ******* math you dipshit.
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Originally Posted by automach1
Are you mental? Do you not grasp reality? The only way to truly compare them is to have the same intake, t/b, rotor pack, case and exhaust. Then run them with the same size upper pulley and balancer. However that is not possible. So the next best thing is to compare them pulley for pulley with the same size rotor pack. The result is the ls9 CAN NOT make compareable power PERIOD. It is no secret when the 5.8 makes ~850 all out with a SLB and the ls9 is lucky to make ~750. Why does it make ~100 less to the wheel Doug? Are you afraid to admit it? The 5.4 will make about 810 with the same 2.3 case. Again wayyy more than any SLB 6.2 with a 2.3 TVS or any tvs for that matter sittting on top.

So now you think the 6.2 can not see more than 15lbs with a 2.3? Would you like me to post a link proving you wrong?

So untill you can tell me why the make almost 100 less to the wheels with all out bolton combos with the same 2300 TVS then you have no argument. No the motor is to "BIG" for the blower BS is not a legit argument. The 5.4 is bigger than the 4.6 yet will make more power regardless of blower size.







Dumb argument. Trinitys have let go at 700 and have held 900 just like the lsa, ls9 etc..... The hardcore racing crowd does not think much of the lsa/9 either. When you can take a sleeved 5.4 with a decent rod/piston and make 1500+ there is no need for a ls9 anything I will take a trinity over any of the iron 5.4s. Alot of idiots on the internet talking out their *** nowadays.
Actually the racing crowd thinks quite highly of the ls9. They're very strong stock. Made over 1200 and been 8s. Much stronger than the trinity.
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Originally Posted by sw07gt
Actually the racing crowd thinks quite highly of the ls9. They're very strong stock. Made over 1200 and been 8s. Much stronger than the trinity.
Yea the ls racing crowd lmao. The guys going really fast have no use for them. Yea just like the 1 1100hp lsa yet the other 9 **** the bed well before that.
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Originally Posted by sw07gt
Actually the racing crowd thinks quite highly of the ls9. They're very strong stock. Made over 1200 and been 8s. Much stronger than the trinity.
Not in SLB form, they sure didn't.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
You're the mental one. You don't even want the same blower.....just the same rotor pack. Yea....**** the rest of the intake track you moron.

Fact is the ls make more power per psi if boost because it4that much more efficient. Fact is running a engine at 15psi nearly doubles it's na output with a decently efficient system. It's called ******* math you dipshit.
Prove it then. Show me a ls9 making more power with the same bolt on mods and pulley combo. Well if 15 psi nearly doubles it then why does a 15psi pulley/tune zr1 make 600 and a 15psi tune only 5.8 make 630+? Why does it fall behind another 50whp with bolton mods? Why has the 6.2 never made 800+ with a SLB and bolton mods?
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You dumb ****....the ls9 can't get to 15psi on the same pulley combo because it flows more air.

Besides that....it's not the same blower.

Are you really this stupid or does your head have henry furds baby batter in it for brains.

There has been slb ls3 and ls6s over 800whp. And likely others.
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Nice passes! The ZR1 easily walked both cars..... Any idea of the power on the ZR1? (I assume at least 650 on e85....if not closer to 700 if its upper/lower).

I'm sure the ZL1 is probably upper pulley, headers and meth to make 640 rwhp.

FWIW, my CAI only C7Z A8 dynoed 564 rwhp(DJ STD) a couple weeks ago.....No tune, no other mods. A stock stick car can easily make 580 rwhp...so it doesn't take much to make 640 on a stick car.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
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There has been slb ls3 and ls6s over 800whp. And likely others.

Proof?

PS. Dyno racing is fun. But I guess that's all you've got in the last 3 years.
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Sorry for my ignorance, "SLB" means what?

stock long block?
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Originally Posted by RealQuick
Sorry for my ignorance, "SLB" means what?

stock long block?
Correct
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
You dumb ****....the ls9 can't get to 15psi on the same pulley combo because it flows more air.

Besides that....it's not the same blower.

Are you really this stupid or does your head have henry furds baby batter in it for brains.

There has been slb ls3 and ls6s over 800whp. And likely others.
Oh do you have proof of this? Do you even understand wtf you are talking about?
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Originally Posted by automach1
Yea the ls racing crowd lmao. The guys going really fast have no use for them. Yea just like the 1 1100hp lsa yet the other 9 **** the bed well before that.
The guys going really fast don't use LSx or modulars 99% of the time, so that was a pretty ******* stupid comment for you to make.

The trinity is a great motor, but the LS9 is way, way, way stronger.
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Originally Posted by sw07gt
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The trinity is a great motor, but the LS9 is way, way, way stronger.
What are the numbers on LS9? I'm having issue finding information on it.

I'm talking about normal numbers, not 1 pull and done kinda hero chit.

Example: I know most peeps build LSA at about 700whp and my POS condor has lived at or above that level for years now.
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Originally Posted by ajrothm
Nice passes! The ZR1 easily walked both cars..... Any idea of the power on the ZR1? (I assume at least 650 on e85....if not closer to 700 if its upper/lower).

I'm sure the ZL1 is probably upper pulley, headers and meth to make 640 rwhp.

FWIW, my CAI only C7Z A8 dynoed 564 rwhp(DJ STD) a couple weeks ago.....No tune, no other mods. A stock stick car can easily make 580 rwhp...so it doesn't take much to make 640 on a stick car.
Lol....good info. Notice how they completely ignored facts.

Originally Posted by islander033
Proof?

PS. Dyno racing is fun. But I guess that's all you've got in the last 3 years.
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Oh do you have proof of this? Do you even understand wtf you are talking about?
Since both of you spend so much time on ls1tech you shouldn't have a issue finding them. Hell i think there are even some slb pick up truck motors right around 800whp. No reason a higher performance engine couldn't do it.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
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Since both of you spend so much time on ls1tech you shouldn't have a issue finding them. Hell i think there are even some slb pick up truck motors right around 800whp. No reason a higher performance engine couldn't do it.
So...you have no proof. Nothing new from the bobble head tyke that don't race.


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