ZR1 vs. Gen 6 ZL1 vs. boosted 5.bro
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#23
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The same rotor pack don't mean **** dumbass. It runs at 5 more lb of boost.
Trinity 662hp ÷ 15lb= 44.13 hp/per lb of boost
Zl1 580hp ÷ 9lb = 64.44 hp/per lb of boost
Zr1 636 ÷ 10lb = 63.6 hp/per lb of boost
Lt4 650 ÷ 9lb = 72.22 hp/per lb of boost
Any of those ls/lt engines running at the same atmosphere and efficiency as the trinity will make more power period.
You can jack your self off with this rotir pack bullshit. But the blowers are different. ....the zr1 can't even get to 15psi like the trinity with the same rotor pack. The blowers are different and the 6.2 just flows more air period. It's why your mod motor crap can't hang na.
Trinity 662hp ÷ 15lb= 44.13 hp/per lb of boost
Zl1 580hp ÷ 9lb = 64.44 hp/per lb of boost
Zr1 636 ÷ 10lb = 63.6 hp/per lb of boost
Lt4 650 ÷ 9lb = 72.22 hp/per lb of boost
Any of those ls/lt engines running at the same atmosphere and efficiency as the trinity will make more power period.
You can jack your self off with this rotir pack bullshit. But the blowers are different. ....the zr1 can't even get to 15psi like the trinity with the same rotor pack. The blowers are different and the 6.2 just flows more air period. It's why your mod motor crap can't hang na.
#24
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Doesn't really matter cuz the trinity is going to have to invest in a better bottom end. The lt4 is safe to around 1000 rwhp. The trinity starts popping at 7-800 rwhp.
Yep people have done more. But it well known the bottom end is questionable on them. The hardcore ford racing crowd doesn't think much of the trinity
Yep people have done more. But it well known the bottom end is questionable on them. The hardcore ford racing crowd doesn't think much of the trinity
#25
The same rotor pack don't mean **** dumbass. It runs at 5 more lb of boost.
Trinity 662hp ÷ 15lb= 44.13 hp/per lb of boost
Zl1 580hp ÷ 9lb = 64.44 hp/per lb of boost
Zr1 636 ÷ 10lb = 63.6 hp/per lb of boost
Lt4 650 ÷ 9lb = 72.22 hp/per lb of boost
Any of those ls/lt engines running at the same atmosphere and efficiency as the trinity will make more power period.
You can jack your self off with this rotir pack bullshit. But the blowers are different. ....the zr1 can't even get to 15psi like the trinity with the same rotor pack. The blowers are different and the 6.2 just flows more air period. It's why your mod motor crap can't hang na.
Trinity 662hp ÷ 15lb= 44.13 hp/per lb of boost
Zl1 580hp ÷ 9lb = 64.44 hp/per lb of boost
Zr1 636 ÷ 10lb = 63.6 hp/per lb of boost
Lt4 650 ÷ 9lb = 72.22 hp/per lb of boost
Any of those ls/lt engines running at the same atmosphere and efficiency as the trinity will make more power period.
You can jack your self off with this rotir pack bullshit. But the blowers are different. ....the zr1 can't even get to 15psi like the trinity with the same rotor pack. The blowers are different and the 6.2 just flows more air period. It's why your mod motor crap can't hang na.
So now you think the 6.2 can not see more than 15lbs with a 2.3? Would you like me to post a link proving you wrong?
So untill you can tell me why the make almost 100 less to the wheels with all out bolton combos with the same 2300 TVS then you have no argument. No the motor is to "BIG" for the blower BS is not a legit argument. The 5.4 is bigger than the 4.6 yet will make more power regardless of blower size.
Doesn't really matter cuz the trinity is going to have to invest in a better bottom end. The lt4 is safe to around 1000 rwhp. The trinity starts popping at 7-800 rwhp.
Yep people have done more. But it well known the bottom end is questionable on them. The hardcore ford racing crowd doesn't think much of the trinity
Yep people have done more. But it well known the bottom end is questionable on them. The hardcore ford racing crowd doesn't think much of the trinity
Last edited by automach1; 09-26-2017 at 10:36 PM.
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You're the mental one. You don't even want the same blower.....just the same rotor pack. Yea....**** the rest of the intake track you moron.
Fact is the ls make more power per psi if boost because it4that much more efficient. Fact is running a engine at 15psi nearly doubles it's na output with a decently efficient system. It's called ******* math you dipshit.
Fact is the ls make more power per psi if boost because it4that much more efficient. Fact is running a engine at 15psi nearly doubles it's na output with a decently efficient system. It's called ******* math you dipshit.
#27
Are you mental? Do you not grasp reality? The only way to truly compare them is to have the same intake, t/b, rotor pack, case and exhaust. Then run them with the same size upper pulley and balancer. However that is not possible. So the next best thing is to compare them pulley for pulley with the same size rotor pack. The result is the ls9 CAN NOT make compareable power PERIOD. It is no secret when the 5.8 makes ~850 all out with a SLB and the ls9 is lucky to make ~750. Why does it make ~100 less to the wheel Doug? Are you afraid to admit it? The 5.4 will make about 810 with the same 2.3 case. Again wayyy more than any SLB 6.2 with a 2.3 TVS or any tvs for that matter sittting on top.
So now you think the 6.2 can not see more than 15lbs with a 2.3? Would you like me to post a link proving you wrong?
So untill you can tell me why the make almost 100 less to the wheels with all out bolton combos with the same 2300 TVS then you have no argument. No the motor is to "BIG" for the blower BS is not a legit argument. The 5.4 is bigger than the 4.6 yet will make more power regardless of blower size.
Dumb argument. Trinitys have let go at 700 and have held 900 just like the lsa, ls9 etc..... The hardcore racing crowd does not think much of the lsa/9 either. When you can take a sleeved 5.4 with a decent rod/piston and make 1500+ there is no need for a ls9 anything I will take a trinity over any of the iron 5.4s. Alot of idiots on the internet talking out their *** nowadays.
So now you think the 6.2 can not see more than 15lbs with a 2.3? Would you like me to post a link proving you wrong?
So untill you can tell me why the make almost 100 less to the wheels with all out bolton combos with the same 2300 TVS then you have no argument. No the motor is to "BIG" for the blower BS is not a legit argument. The 5.4 is bigger than the 4.6 yet will make more power regardless of blower size.
Dumb argument. Trinitys have let go at 700 and have held 900 just like the lsa, ls9 etc..... The hardcore racing crowd does not think much of the lsa/9 either. When you can take a sleeved 5.4 with a decent rod/piston and make 1500+ there is no need for a ls9 anything I will take a trinity over any of the iron 5.4s. Alot of idiots on the internet talking out their *** nowadays.
#28
Yea the ls racing crowd lmao. The guys going really fast have no use for them. Yea just like the 1 1100hp lsa yet the other 9 **** the bed well before that.
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#30
You're the mental one. You don't even want the same blower.....just the same rotor pack. Yea....**** the rest of the intake track you moron.
Fact is the ls make more power per psi if boost because it4that much more efficient. Fact is running a engine at 15psi nearly doubles it's na output with a decently efficient system. It's called ******* math you dipshit.
Fact is the ls make more power per psi if boost because it4that much more efficient. Fact is running a engine at 15psi nearly doubles it's na output with a decently efficient system. It's called ******* math you dipshit.
#31
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You dumb ****....the ls9 can't get to 15psi on the same pulley combo because it flows more air.
Besides that....it's not the same blower.
Are you really this stupid or does your head have henry furds baby batter in it for brains.
There has been slb ls3 and ls6s over 800whp. And likely others.
Besides that....it's not the same blower.
Are you really this stupid or does your head have henry furds baby batter in it for brains.
There has been slb ls3 and ls6s over 800whp. And likely others.
#32
TECH Enthusiast
Nice passes! The ZR1 easily walked both cars..... Any idea of the power on the ZR1? (I assume at least 650 on e85....if not closer to 700 if its upper/lower).
I'm sure the ZL1 is probably upper pulley, headers and meth to make 640 rwhp.
FWIW, my CAI only C7Z A8 dynoed 564 rwhp(DJ STD) a couple weeks ago.....No tune, no other mods. A stock stick car can easily make 580 rwhp...so it doesn't take much to make 640 on a stick car.
I'm sure the ZL1 is probably upper pulley, headers and meth to make 640 rwhp.
FWIW, my CAI only C7Z A8 dynoed 564 rwhp(DJ STD) a couple weeks ago.....No tune, no other mods. A stock stick car can easily make 580 rwhp...so it doesn't take much to make 640 on a stick car.
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#36
You dumb ****....the ls9 can't get to 15psi on the same pulley combo because it flows more air.
Besides that....it's not the same blower.
Are you really this stupid or does your head have henry furds baby batter in it for brains.
There has been slb ls3 and ls6s over 800whp. And likely others.
Besides that....it's not the same blower.
Are you really this stupid or does your head have henry furds baby batter in it for brains.
There has been slb ls3 and ls6s over 800whp. And likely others.
#37
The trinity is a great motor, but the LS9 is way, way, way stronger.
#38
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I'm talking about normal numbers, not 1 pull and done kinda hero chit.
Example: I know most peeps build LSA at about 700whp and my POS condor has lived at or above that level for years now.
#39
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Nice passes! The ZR1 easily walked both cars..... Any idea of the power on the ZR1? (I assume at least 650 on e85....if not closer to 700 if its upper/lower).
I'm sure the ZL1 is probably upper pulley, headers and meth to make 640 rwhp.
FWIW, my CAI only C7Z A8 dynoed 564 rwhp(DJ STD) a couple weeks ago.....No tune, no other mods. A stock stick car can easily make 580 rwhp...so it doesn't take much to make 640 on a stick car.
I'm sure the ZL1 is probably upper pulley, headers and meth to make 640 rwhp.
FWIW, my CAI only C7Z A8 dynoed 564 rwhp(DJ STD) a couple weeks ago.....No tune, no other mods. A stock stick car can easily make 580 rwhp...so it doesn't take much to make 640 on a stick car.
#40
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So...you have no proof. Nothing new from the bobble head tyke that don't race.