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Old 10-26-2017, 03:04 PM
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I've zero 500whp bolt on coyotes. And I've looked out of curiosity.

And since we're talking bolt ons then no cams. Even cammed ones seem to struggle to crest that. And yea......no where near the tq.

M6 6gens are faster than m6 coyotes to. With a 50% heavier fly/clutch combo. Even that up and gear it's gonna get ugly for the coyote very fast.
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Originally Posted by Nick.H
The LT is wiping the floor with the yote tho....
Lolno.

Originally Posted by Nick.H
Better out the door performance and better modded performance so....
Out the door, maybe. N/A I slightly agree. Boosted? lolno.

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Doesn't matter. It's not about that. Some **** can be done electronically. Doesn't change the fact the part itself.........not you. Touches the oil.

I'm all for not using rockers if furd guys leave their cam timing stock. No valve events/dynamics changed for either sounds super fair right?
You are a ******* retard.

Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Sure it does. Puts them on the same level except now they can adjust the vvt and add rockers.

I remember you guys saying once upin a time that "hey that a ohc advantage "

Now hey.....thats a pushrod advantage


Not like it matters. The lt is wiping the floor with the coyote.
Lolno.

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How many LBO coyotes are going 10's again?
Actually, quite a bit with the same amount of mods as him...

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I've zero 500whp bolt on coyotes. And I've looked out of curiosity.

And since we're talking bolt ons then no cams. Even cammed ones seem to struggle to crest that. And yea......no where near the tq.

M6 6gens are faster than m6 coyotes to. With a 50% heavier fly/clutch combo. Even that up and gear it's gonna get ugly for the coyote very fast.
That's generally because Coyote's don't need 500whp to run faster. Efficiency speaks highly in them, not that you would know though.

Coyote > LS/LT
Old 10-26-2017, 03:22 PM
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Having to work harder is not efficient.

I've seen zero coyotes goin as fast as ultra ......how did you guys used to say it?

Oh yea.....mod4mod

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Not to be argumentative but horsepower numbers are, well, just horsepower numbers. They only tell a small part of the overall performance of the car. I'd be more interested in track times since if the same performance can be had with less horsepower maybe due to weight, gearing, and aerodynamics, I'd be more interested and impressed with that.
Just my opinion though.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Having to work harder is not efficient.

I've seen zero coyotes goin as fast as ultra ......how did you guys used to say it?

Oh yea.....mod4mod

Weird. Must not be looking very hard then.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I've zero 500whp bolt on coyotes. And I've looked out of curiosity.

And since we're talking bolt ons then no cams. Even cammed ones seem to struggle to crest that. And yea......no where near the tq.

M6 6gens are faster than m6 coyotes to. With a 50% heavier fly/clutch combo. Even that up and gear it's gonna get ugly for the coyote very fast.
Find me a local 6th gen 6spd same mods I’d like to test your theory of it getting it ugly real fast for the 5.0 .
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Wow......cause your 5br0 buddies all said 6hp gainz on e85. Conflicting stories here......lmao
So race gas is cool to use now that the LT picks up more on it than a Coyote does? Conflicting stories here, just trying to figure it out.
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Originally Posted by OneSlowV
Find me a local 6th gen 6spd same mods I’d like to test your theory of it getting it ugly real fast for the 5.0 .
Spoiler alert: It won't happen
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Originally Posted by NateLS1Mustang
So race gas is cool to use now that the LT picks up more on it than a Coyote does? Conflicting stories here, just trying to figure it out.
If it benefits the ls camp he is all for it . Now from what i read up top tuning the 5.0 is a internal mod lol
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Originally Posted by OneSlowV
Find me a local 6th gen 6spd same mods I’d like to test your theory of it getting it ugly real fast for the 5.0 .
You have 93 tune, cai and cat delete ?

Just honest answer from everything I’ve seen so far you should be about even with a stock one with those mods.

Doesn’t mean you won’t win. A roll race with manuals is far from conclusive
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Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
You have 93 tune, cai and cat delete ?

Just honest answer from everything I’ve seen so far you should be about even with a stock one with those mods.

Doesn’t mean you won’t win. A roll race with manuals is far from conclusive
Just put he intake on the other day . But yes 3 mod bro now rather run with similar mods to see the outcome win or lose .
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Originally Posted by MACHXLR8
Not to be argumentative but horsepower numbers are, well, just horsepower numbers. They only tell a small part of the overall performance of the car. I'd be more interested in track times since if the same performance can be had with less horsepower maybe due to weight, gearing, and aerodynamics, I'd be more interested and impressed with that.
Just my opinion though.
Sure lots of factors involved if you really want to break it down. Wheel/tire size/weight, clutch weight, brake rotor size/weight, gearing......i mean the 5br0 always has more gear.

If you even all that up the 5br0 is gonna get thrashed really really bad.

Originally Posted by Its Stock
Weird. Must not be looking very hard then.
Feel free to post up the 500whp bolt on coyotes. Details would be nice. Even if they can make 500 whp hp they're still gonna be way down in tq and thus not be as powerful.

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Find me a local 6th gen 6spd same mods I’d like to test your theory of it getting it ugly real fast for the 5.0 .
Did you read all of what i said?

What did your car run at the track?



Originally Posted by NateLS1Mustang
So race gas is cool to use now that the LT picks up more on it than a Coyote does? Conflicting stories here, just trying to figure it out.
No conflicts at all. The 5br0s always use a fuel to try and gain a advantage. That advantage is gone with both on a fuel. Seems cool to me.

If you want you can make them all stay on pump gas. Coyote will lose then to.

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If it benefits the ls camp he is all for it . Now from what i read up top tuning the 5.0 is a internal mod lol
As long as the cams are inside the engine adjusting a component inside the engine is a internal mod no matter the brand. Pretty simple eehhh

So now you can either

A- except the other brand can do it to
A:1- now the other brand can use cam timing and rockers due to their technology

Or

B- no one adjusts cam timing nothing in oil gets touched

I'm fine with either.

Boy the 5br0s sure are having alot to cry about these days.
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Originally Posted by Nick.H
Better out the door performance and better modded performance so....
I agree with stock.

Post up the fastest LT1 car NA and Boosted...
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I think mod 4 mod is officially dead lol

they thought they really had something when it was invented.

It will be back if the 18 GT performs. For now we will just say because racecar.
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Originally Posted by islander033
I agree with stock.

Post up the fastest LT1 car NA and Boosted...
I like to go more based on what I see in the real world rather than internet list race. Fastest NA coyote I've seen at my track went 11.8
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Originally Posted by Nick.H
I like to go more based on what I see in the real world rather than internet list race. Fastest NA coyote I've seen at my track went 11.8
Lol. Sounds legit.

Things are only as fast as I personally see.
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Originally Posted by Nick.H
I like to go more based on what I see in the real world rather than internet list race. Fastest NA coyote I've seen at my track went 11.8
Comparable setup to mine plus a converter was 11.5@119 at my track. 2013 GT
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Seen ben calmer run something similar to you plus a converter at my track to a 11.7@117
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Bahahahahahahaha. I knew this OneSlowVagina dipshit was always racing retarded monkeys behind the wheel. This confirms it. I would buttfuck that 5.br0 to hell and back.

And Hio is making complete and utter fools out of these furd derps, as usual!
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Originally Posted by islander033
Lol. Sounds legit.

Things are only as fast as I personally see.
Not quite, I just think it to be more realistic to compare real world builds than endless budget shop cars.

Anything can be fast with enough money


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