Street Racing & Kill Stories Basic Technical Questions & Advice

GT350 vs 135i

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-30-2017, 01:59 PM
  #21  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
OneSlowV's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: East Texas
Posts: 406
Received 218 Likes on 136 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Because they aren't that powerful so they live off rpm and gear.


Looks like e85 eorth way more than the 6-10hp we are led to believe.

That 135 not gonna do 120 on 93.
Been done before so why wouldn’t it ? And I’ve told you e85 was worth more than that multiple times . You should listen to a more reliable source sometimes
Old 10-30-2017, 02:04 PM
  #22  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (6)
 
marc97taws6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: DSM
Posts: 1,433
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Because they aren't that powerful so they live off rpm and gear.


Looks like e85 eorth way more than the 6-10hp we are led to believe.

That 135 not gonna do 120 on 93.
Compression definitely helps. The new lt1 Motor loves e85 due to DI and compression bump from Ls3

120 has been done with them before with less mods on 93
Old 10-30-2017, 02:36 PM
  #23  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
Its Stock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Southern, IL
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by V8EATR
Good run, RB turbos on the 135?
Not sure honestly. First time any of us have met the guy, he's new to the group. I'll ask and see.

Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Good run against about a 118 car maybe. Probably only 116
350 hung right with a 119-120 car before mods so ya.

Originally Posted by snake95
Nice! That BMW would without question *** **** a 6th gen Camaro.
For sure.

Originally Posted by 98CayenneT/A
Gt350's don't have any low end torque, just a fact man. They are absolute toilets under 5000 rpms but start to pull hard after about 5500
Have you driven one?

Originally Posted by marc97taws6
With the upgraded turbos that 135 is likely a 120+ trap car.
Troof. Should roll out even harder on corn.

Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
Nice. Shitted on em

Why the lower than stock redline ?

What do they pick up with E85 ?

I know on a 6g E85 and cat delete are the biggest bang for the buck you can do. About 50 rwhp.
Keeps having issues when he loads the tune from the nGauge. Last tune was for 8750 but it keeps ******* up and setting it to 8000. I tapped it last night at 8k and I could definitely tell it wanted more.

Should be around 480-490 wheel with cat deletes/e85. Said he's probably gonna do longtubes next then boost eventually, if he keeps it.
Old 10-30-2017, 03:04 PM
  #24  
Teching In
 
meddlecho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Pit
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by marc97taws6
I was thinking mid 120 to upper 120’s but saw 93 so went conservative back to the 120+

There is an option for limited slip upgrade aftermarket wise though right? Just not very cost effective.
Yeah, they have a few different options to upgrade. It's like $1200.
Old 10-30-2017, 04:25 PM
  #25  
TECH Junkie
 
98CayenneT/A's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: White Bear, Mn
Posts: 3,889
Received 345 Likes on 237 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Its Stock
Have you driven one?
Yes I have
Old 10-30-2017, 04:38 PM
  #26  
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
NateLS1Mustang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 182
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

GT350 makes no torque but probably makes more torque than your new HC combo... Lmao.
Old 10-30-2017, 05:29 PM
  #27  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (6)
 
marc97taws6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: DSM
Posts: 1,433
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by meddlecho
Yeah, they have a few different options to upgrade. It's like $1200.
Love the n54 cars. Sucks they have an open diff. One of my good buddies used to have a bolt on 135 on e47 mix and it was definitely a fun little car.
Old 10-30-2017, 05:38 PM
  #28  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
OneSlowV's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: East Texas
Posts: 406
Received 218 Likes on 136 Posts
Default

You can get a N54 car under 7k all day long almost bought one just to mod .
Old 10-30-2017, 05:42 PM
  #29  
TECH Junkie
 
98CayenneT/A's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: White Bear, Mn
Posts: 3,889
Received 345 Likes on 237 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by NateLS1Mustang
GT350 makes no torque but probably makes more torque than your new HC combo... Lmao.
You are a dim wit, I will absolutely **** pound a gt350 from a dig or slow roll.

Go for a ride in one and go wot from a 10 mph roll.....you're going to be there a while lol

Since you made a jab at my car I will explain it for you.
I'm a stalled auto, I don't give a **** about low end torque at WOT because my car never sees below 6000 rpms at wot.

A gt 350 makes NO LOW END TORQUE.
Old 10-30-2017, 05:57 PM
  #30  
Teching In
 
Whippled's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 98CayenneT/A
You are a dim wit, I will absolutely **** pound a gt350 from a dig or slow roll.

Go for a ride in one and go wot from a 10 mph roll.....you're going to be there a while lol

Since you made a jab at my car I will explain it for you.
I'm a stalled auto, I don't give a **** about low end torque at WOT because my car never sees below 6000 rpms at wot.

A gt 350 makes NO LOW END TORQUE.
A 10 mph roll is ignorant in a car geared like the GT350 lol nothing is making much torque that low in its respective powerband. 1st gear roll needs a good 25-30 mph.
Old 10-30-2017, 05:58 PM
  #31  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (8)
 
HioSSilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Winchester, VA
Posts: 5,927
Received 412 Likes on 330 Posts

Default

Lol....98cayenne bent nate over
Old 10-30-2017, 06:16 PM
  #32  
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
NateLS1Mustang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 182
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by 98CayenneT/A
You are a dim wit, I will absolutely **** pound a gt350 from a dig or slow roll.

Go for a ride in one and go wot from a 10 mph roll.....you're going to be there a while lol

Since you made a jab at my car I will explain it for you.
I'm a stalled auto, I don't give a **** about low end torque at WOT because my car never sees below 6000 rpms at wot.

A gt 350 makes NO LOW END TORQUE.
And I'm sure a GT350 will never see below 6000rpms at WOT as well...
Old 10-30-2017, 06:17 PM
  #33  
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
NateLS1Mustang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 182
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Apparently people are racing their GT350s at 2,500rpms and shifting before 5,000rpm..
Old 10-30-2017, 06:31 PM
  #34  
TECH Junkie
 
98CayenneT/A's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: White Bear, Mn
Posts: 3,889
Received 345 Likes on 237 Posts

Default

We are talking about LOW END TORQUE.
It will see plenty of rpms below 6000 from a starting line or a slow roll on the street in the city from a random encounter. Lots of cars out there that would make it look goofy stop light to stop light.

Gt350 owner's: " Lets do a 120 mph roll "
Old 10-30-2017, 07:06 PM
  #35  
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
NateLS1Mustang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 182
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

El oh el jarred
Old 10-30-2017, 07:30 PM
  #36  
11 Second Club
 
SoFla01SSLookinstok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: South Florida
Posts: 1,541
Received 15 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

The low end on the motor doesn't seem terrible from the dyno chart. The main tq rise is between about 3000-3800 rpm.
Old 10-31-2017, 07:44 AM
  #37  
Teching In
iTrader: (1)
 
ZYBORG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: S. FL/TX
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

350 has plenty of pep. Dont let those magazine reviews fool you... It gets up and boogies.
Old 10-31-2017, 08:02 AM
  #38  
Teching In
 
meddlecho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Pit
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Love the n54 cars. Sucks they have an open diff. One of my good buddies used to have a bolt on 135 on e47 mix and it was definitely a fun little car.
Definitely fun cars! Have had one for a few years now and it's been great to me, but I think it's time for an ATS-V now
Old 10-31-2017, 09:33 AM
  #39  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (8)
 
Marc 85Z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: MD
Posts: 1,395
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

I have driven a GT350, and can tell you it's less powerful than a stock LS1 F-body below 4000RPM. After that it feels strong, impressive actually for a naturally aspirated Ford.

I didn't get a chance to use the launch control, but in my short drive I couldn't find the sweet spot in getting it off the line. It either bogged really bad, or the tires went up in smoke (not my car, didn't want to ruin the clutch). Either way, it was exactly as reported, gutless at low RPM.

The sound, like an Eaton supercharger, was both annoying and addicting.

It's the V8 version of a Honda S2000.
Old 10-31-2017, 10:55 AM
  #40  
Teching In
iTrader: (1)
 
ZYBORG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: S. FL/TX
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
I have driven a GT350, and can tell you it's less powerful than a stock LS1 F-body below 4000RPM. After that it feels strong, impressive actually for a naturally aspirated Ford.

I didn't get a chance to use the launch control, but in my short drive I couldn't find the sweet spot in getting it off the line. It either bogged really bad, or the tires went up in smoke (not my car, didn't want to ruin the clutch). Either way, it was exactly as reported, gutless at low RPM.

The sound, like an Eaton supercharger, was both annoying and addicting.

It's the V8 version of a Honda S2000.
Funny.

I own a 14' 100 and also have driven a 350 (with my lady and another big guy as passengers).

At no point, did it feel "gutless". Not at 1k rpms not a 2k, 3k or so on.

There is no Eaton SC sound. Although the motor's sound was intoxicating (in a very good way).

As much as I like catfishes and LS motors, comparing it to a stock LS1 is plain silliness. Lol

The car was seriously impressive all the way around. Definitely a premium vehicle.

The only complaint I had (if any), would be that the recaros are made to fit lady-boys or teenage like men. The bolsters would dig right into your shoulders and thighs, making the seats very uncomfortable. My girl was comfy tho!

Last edited by ZYBORG; 10-31-2017 at 11:00 AM.


Quick Reply: GT350 vs 135i



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:50 PM.